Oy vey, this time we will use the system created by the jews to defeat the jews. No really, I know it has never worked in the past but tHiS tImE IT'S diFFerENt.
Democracy is the opiate of the masses. It helps them avoid the painful decision of ripping off the bandaid and starting fresh by promising them "it's just four more years, then we can try to fix it." And every four more years the water gets slightly hotter and so the frog boils.
In a pure democracy, laws are made directly by the voting majority leaving the rights of the minority largely unprotected. In a republic, laws are made by representatives chosen by the people and must comply with a constitution that specifically protects the rights of the minority from the will of the majority.
I think it can be a solution in very small populations, but there needs to be well recognised and low-friction exit options. "Freedom to exit" needs to be considered as fundamental and inalienable as freedom of speech and right to bear arms, to the point where it'll trigger massive upheavel if any government tries to prevent an exit or make an exit painful.
Currently no government allows such freedom and no one demands it. Democracy is particularly insidious in this manner because it gives people and illusion of power and choice. At least with a monarchy they know they're choosing between lifelong servitude and rebellion.
No, he's spot on. I researched this topic (and continue to research it). The jewish shadow is all over christianity. That's not to say that the words of Jesus are false — just the opposite. But the ideology of christianity was created by jews to subvert the teachings of Jesus. Think about it; do you really think the jews are going to let the teachings of a man they so vehemently hate to this day go unassailed and unaltered?
This just isn't correct. Catholicism was a bulwark against Judaism for most of a millennium until weak men in its ranks permitted its subversion. The core of Christianity is intrinsically anti-Jewish. Of course the Jews would not allow the Catholic church to go unchallenged. It has been challenged through its entire history. But that's a different claim than saying the ideology of Christianity was invented by Jews.
of course, a stupid reply. what else is to be expected from people like you? the law is the torah. something so obvious doesn't need to be said, and if you actually somehow believe it means something else, please do not waste my time with your idiocy.
The Torah is a compilation of books; you might argue the laws are written down within the Torah, but laws are subordinated by a covenant, for a law implies obligations, and obligations are specified by a covenant (contract).
What did Christ mean when he said he was fulfilling the law? And why are you insinuating, like a dummy, that the scripture you cited means something like 'Christ is endorsing Judaism whole cloth'? In reality, Matthew 5:17 means the opposite of what you're insinuating it means.
Jump to Matthew 5:20 --
>For I tell you, unless your righteousness exceeds that of the scribes and Pharisees, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.
Jesus was making the strong claim that the power brokers (the elite echelons) of Judaism in that day had broken their covenant. Jesus was not saying the Christians were to just continue doing what the Pharisees were doing. Jesus was only confirming that the laws of righteousness would continue.
What, in order to not be Jewish-invented control conspiracies, Jesus had to deny the commandments? If he didn't come in and undo the most significant moral code of that era, it means Christianity was invented by Jews?
this is what your kind always does, you try to twist and twist it around until it becomes so convoluted that you can avoid the basic truths. what you just said didn't disprove a single thing i said.
jesus came to uphold the torah. the whole thing. not just the 10 commandments. as you said, matthew 5:20 is about jesus rebelling against the elites of his day, not the torah. so wtf was the point of all that rambling, save to try and twist it in your own mind to convince yourself to avoid admitting you're wrong about everything you've always believed?
Right, the Torah that prophesied the coming of the messiah.
I'm no longer sure what you are even arguing. I'm not twisting anything.
I get the feeling that you assume the Torah must be necessarily wrong, because it wasn't written by anglo-saxons or something.
This is ignorant. I have no interest in arguing with someone who can't analyze texts and revelation beneath a level where 'this is white, and this isn't'. This is childishly stupid.
I also won't find any original European pagan religions. Catholicism is extant for 2,000 years in an unbroken tradition. Contemporary pagan religions are a mixture of die-hard traditionalists trying to breathe life into the husk of a dead tradition, and a bunch of edgy enthusiasts with vague interests in non-Christian esoteria and the occult.
One of our traditions is alive. The other is a bastard heathen offshoot of a tradition that could not survive.
That's funny; another guy just awarded me the Aryan Peace Prize for a post about the JQ. Now I'm having an identity crisis (/s).
My main bit of trouble is with larping. You do not have an authentic connection to pagan traditions. Christianity does, and it incorporates actual pagan tradition, namely the best features of them. You are larping. You like the names of the Norse gods because you think they are swappable for the term 'white' - by extension, you think they mean 'your gods'.
If you were not ignorant you'd realize that Catholicism is Europe's living tradition, and it perfected paganism.
You're playing identity politics worse than any faggoty liberal. You think a god is something that fills a slot in your social life, right next to your demographic information. You think of a god like a feature of a character you are customizing, shuffling through presets until you find the God-jersey that best fits your character. If the way you talk about God reflects your understanding, then you are ignorant.
If you want to make a point, you can be more direct, without asking for the answer to a question predicated on oxymoron. Pagans didn't have a prophetic tradition. A prophet is distinct from other divinatory phenomena, and it is not associated directly with magic, which something like seidhr is.
Yes, seidhr. A priest-like magical ritual practiced with equal authority by men and women, because paganism formed the kind of religious group where women were venerated.
Find me a woman elevated like this in Abrahamic traditions.
You have a tradition that worships witches, and their divinatory practices involved group sex and drug use.
Promote more degeneracy. If I was a Jew, I would certainly be supporting modern heathenism, endorsing it among white groups.
Your tradition took seriously the divinations from women. And you wonder why these traditions died out in the face of Catholicism. They would have died out in the face of Islam too. Catholics and Muslims were reading Plato and Aristotle while the pagans waited for word from the naked dancing woman to tell them what the future would be.
I did answer the question. My answer implied it. A European prophet does not make sense.
The Norse had no prophetic tradition because their gods were immanent nature-myths.
I have no problem saying this whatsoever, because I don't require the Torah or the NT gospels to have been written by heathens in order to have fomented the most sophisticated religious system in the world (which is also the one, true religion). The collection of ideas you have about 'Europe' - all of the images of high civilization, art, music, architecture - was the result of cultural unification under Catholicism.
You seem to think that the highest phase of European civilization would have naturally fallen out of the barbaric disunity of local heathen religion. That Christianity somehow held Europe back from its potential. You couldn't be more incorrect. Christianity actualized the potential latent in European peoples and elevated them to the highest heights it was possible for them to reach prior to the schism and the slow decline of the Church and the rise of secular humanism.
A tradition survives because it deserves to. If it dies, it is because it deserves to. Your tradition died. Catholicism did not. Catholicism has survived for 2,000 years. Heathenism is a modern bastardization of a dead mosaic of related local traditions, which by the way, was younger than the Abrahamic faiths. Some of the earliest textual evidence we have for your religion is from the middle ages, and the oral tradition it comes from is no older than 8th century AD - 800 years after early Christianity and modern Judaism. 1800 years after ancient Israelite religion. 200 years after Islam.
Think intelligently and imagine how much of your 'muh European native religion' borrowed from Christianity, because it did.
THey've been told that they get elected by zionist scofield inhaling Christians. Nobody is ever going to tell them that the zionist christians aren't really the voting bloc they once were and are crossing to anti judaism as fast as Romney's greedy family can count their money.
Trump would get more votes if he shut his mouth about the jews. He is however making them an isolated issue, and that's good in the long term, bad in the short because people will not vote independents.
[ - ] Laputois 1 point 2.1 yearsApr 9, 2022 16:26:25 ago (+1/-0)
Read this comment by an anonymous poster concerning the PM of New Zealand and found it poignant. "It is a damning testament to the failure of Democracy as a political system, that such incompetent imbeciles are routinely placed into positions of power, granted undeserved authority, and permitted to ruin nations without significant resistance or means of recourse. Even monarchs or dictators would have faced assassinations or coups long before it got this bad. Democracy dilutes sense of responsibility, by dividing it among the voters, and creates the illusion of perpetual majority support for anything the government does (even though this is rarely really the case). And so nobody feels both responsible and justified enough to be compelled to do something about it, when the government inevitably loses track of reality and spirals out of control. Everyone becomes complacent and paralyzed. Pacified, by the false promise that the next vote is just around the corner, and surely will make things better. The true opiate of the masses is not the television, but the voting booth."
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https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy_in_Marxism
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[ - ] Broc_Liath 0 points 2.1 yearsApr 9, 2022 10:48:45 ago (+0/-0)
Currently no government allows such freedom and no one demands it. Democracy is particularly insidious in this manner because it gives people and illusion of power and choice. At least with a monarchy they know they're choosing between lifelong servitude and rebellion.
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[ + ] CHIRO
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The Torah is a compilation of books; you might argue the laws are written down within the Torah, but laws are subordinated by a covenant, for a law implies obligations, and obligations are specified by a covenant (contract).
What did Christ mean when he said he was fulfilling the law? And why are you insinuating, like a dummy, that the scripture you cited means something like 'Christ is endorsing Judaism whole cloth'? In reality, Matthew 5:17 means the opposite of what you're insinuating it means.
Jump to Matthew 5:20 --
Jesus was making the strong claim that the power brokers (the elite echelons) of Judaism in that day had broken their covenant. Jesus was not saying the Christians were to just continue doing what the Pharisees were doing. Jesus was only confirming that the laws of righteousness would continue.
What, in order to not be Jewish-invented control conspiracies, Jesus had to deny the commandments? If he didn't come in and undo the most significant moral code of that era, it means Christianity was invented by Jews?
Be sharper.
[ + ] BlueEyedAngloMasterRaceGod
[ - ] BlueEyedAngloMasterRaceGod 0 points 2.1 yearsApr 9, 2022 21:01:12 ago (+0/-0)
jesus came to uphold the torah. the whole thing. not just the 10 commandments. as you said, matthew 5:20 is about jesus rebelling against the elites of his day, not the torah. so wtf was the point of all that rambling, save to try and twist it in your own mind to convince yourself to avoid admitting you're wrong about everything you've always believed?
[ + ] CHIRO
[ - ] CHIRO 0 points 2.1 yearsApr 9, 2022 21:14:13 ago (+0/-0)
I'm no longer sure what you are even arguing. I'm not twisting anything.
I get the feeling that you assume the Torah must be necessarily wrong, because it wasn't written by anglo-saxons or something.
This is ignorant. I have no interest in arguing with someone who can't analyze texts and revelation beneath a level where 'this is white, and this isn't'. This is childishly stupid.
[ + ] Master_Foo
[ - ] Master_Foo 0 points 2.1 yearsApr 9, 2022 19:10:57 ago (+0/-0)
Heil Odin!
[ + ] CHIRO
[ - ] CHIRO 0 points 2.1 yearsApr 9, 2022 19:29:18 ago (+0/-0)
One of our traditions is alive. The other is a bastard heathen offshoot of a tradition that could not survive.
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[ - ] Master_Foo 0 points 2.1 yearsApr 9, 2022 19:33:15 ago (+0/-0)
Tell me more about why you think Whites should ignore their native ethnic traditions and serve a Foreign-Jew-God.
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[ - ] CHIRO 0 points 2.1 yearsApr 9, 2022 19:46:57 ago (+0/-0)
My main bit of trouble is with larping. You do not have an authentic connection to pagan traditions. Christianity does, and it incorporates actual pagan tradition, namely the best features of them. You are larping. You like the names of the Norse gods because you think they are swappable for the term 'white' - by extension, you think they mean 'your gods'.
If you were not ignorant you'd realize that Catholicism is Europe's living tradition, and it perfected paganism.
You're playing identity politics worse than any faggoty liberal. You think a god is something that fills a slot in your social life, right next to your demographic information. You think of a god like a feature of a character you are customizing, shuffling through presets until you find the God-jersey that best fits your character. If the way you talk about God reflects your understanding, then you are ignorant.
[ + ] Master_Foo
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[ + ] CHIRO
[ - ] CHIRO 0 points 2.1 yearsApr 9, 2022 20:33:49 ago (+0/-0)
Yes, seidhr. A priest-like magical ritual practiced with equal authority by men and women, because paganism formed the kind of religious group where women were venerated.
Find me a woman elevated like this in Abrahamic traditions.
You have a tradition that worships witches, and their divinatory practices involved group sex and drug use.
Promote more degeneracy. If I was a Jew, I would certainly be supporting modern heathenism, endorsing it among white groups.
Your tradition took seriously the divinations from women. And you wonder why these traditions died out in the face of Catholicism. They would have died out in the face of Islam too. Catholics and Muslims were reading Plato and Aristotle while the pagans waited for word from the naked dancing woman to tell them what the future would be.
[ + ] Master_Foo
[ - ] Master_Foo 0 points 2.1 yearsApr 9, 2022 22:19:06 ago (+0/-0)
You could just answer the question, which is, "There are no European Prophets in the Bible"
But, you won't ever say that because you know what than means about the relationship between Europeans and your Foreign-Jew-God.
[ + ] CHIRO
[ - ] CHIRO 0 points 2.1 yearsApr 9, 2022 23:04:35 ago (+0/-0)*
The Norse had no prophetic tradition because their gods were immanent nature-myths.
I have no problem saying this whatsoever, because I don't require the Torah or the NT gospels to have been written by heathens in order to have fomented the most sophisticated religious system in the world (which is also the one, true religion). The collection of ideas you have about 'Europe' - all of the images of high civilization, art, music, architecture - was the result of cultural unification under Catholicism.
You seem to think that the highest phase of European civilization would have naturally fallen out of the barbaric disunity of local heathen religion. That Christianity somehow held Europe back from its potential. You couldn't be more incorrect. Christianity actualized the potential latent in European peoples and elevated them to the highest heights it was possible for them to reach prior to the schism and the slow decline of the Church and the rise of secular humanism.
A tradition survives because it deserves to. If it dies, it is because it deserves to. Your tradition died. Catholicism did not. Catholicism has survived for 2,000 years. Heathenism is a modern bastardization of a dead mosaic of related local traditions, which by the way, was younger than the Abrahamic faiths. Some of the earliest textual evidence we have for your religion is from the middle ages, and the oral tradition it comes from is no older than 8th century AD - 800 years after early Christianity and modern Judaism. 1800 years after ancient Israelite religion. 200 years after Islam.
Think intelligently and imagine how much of your 'muh European native religion' borrowed from Christianity, because it did.
[ + ] yesiknow
[ - ] yesiknow 2 points 2.1 yearsApr 9, 2022 06:22:30 ago (+2/-0)
THey've been told that they get elected by zionist scofield inhaling Christians. Nobody is ever going to tell them that the zionist christians aren't really the voting bloc they once were and are crossing to anti judaism as fast as Romney's greedy family can count their money.
Trump would get more votes if he shut his mouth about the jews. He is however making them an isolated issue, and that's good in the long term, bad in the short because people will not vote independents.
[ + ] Broc_Liath
[ - ] Broc_Liath 2 points 2.1 yearsApr 9, 2022 07:42:36 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] Laputois
[ - ] Laputois 1 point 2.1 yearsApr 9, 2022 16:26:25 ago (+1/-0)
"It is a damning testament to the failure of Democracy as a political system, that such incompetent imbeciles are routinely placed into positions of power, granted undeserved authority, and permitted to ruin nations without significant resistance or means of recourse.
Even monarchs or dictators would have faced assassinations or coups long before it got this bad.
Democracy dilutes sense of responsibility, by dividing it among the voters, and creates the illusion of perpetual majority support for anything the government does (even though this is rarely really the case). And so nobody feels both responsible and justified enough to be compelled to do something about it, when the government inevitably loses track of reality and spirals out of control. Everyone becomes complacent and paralyzed. Pacified, by the false promise that the next vote is just around the corner, and surely will make things better.
The true opiate of the masses is not the television, but the voting booth."
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[ - ] lord_nougat 1 point 2.1 yearsApr 9, 2022 13:33:18 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] RMGoetbbels
[ - ] RMGoetbbels 1 point 2.1 yearsApr 9, 2022 10:52:08 ago (+1/-0)