There was a feminist scene in the Return of the King when the woman stabs the wraith and says something like "I'm not a man, I'm a woman!!" and he dies, because he was only immortal to "men" (i.e. no "man" could kill him). It was obvious by "man" they mean't "human" so it was a very stupid moment and it killed the whole series for me. I never watched it again for this reason though the series was pretty based besides this.
To be fair, Merry used his magic sword on him first, which is the only way she was able to kill the Witch King. Also, that scene is straight out of the book.
The scene references Shakespeare's Macbeth, "Just as MacDuff disconcerted Macbeth by revealing he was not "of woman born", Lady Éowyn found the loophole in the 1,000-year-old prophecy by Glorfindel, fulfilling that the Witch-king would not be slain by a man." https://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/%C3%89owyn
It's the theme of seemingly insignificant things making big differences. Most obviously, a hobbit on a journey to destroy the ring of power.
I've held off on reading the books simply because I quite enjoy the movie series and the book is always better. And fiction is not a high priority for me right now.
In this case, I won't say either is better; they're different. The books tend to have more metaphorical or conceptual descriptions of things that the movies interpret more literally, i.e. "The Eye of Sauron" isn't actually a physical, firey eye. Overall though, it's pretty faithful and does a good job converting the story to a visual medium.
The books are very slow paced, so much so, that the ending battle from the Fellowship film doesn't actually take place until the Two Towers book.
Lots of dated purple prose and meandering world building, but bearable in the main series. If you delve into Tolkien's unfinished/unrefined works like The Silmarillion or Children of Hurin, you're in for a miserable reading experience; those are slogs to read for anyone but the most die hard fans. Even then, you're better off reading a LoTR wiki to learn about Middle Earth than trying to read, retain, and decipher those cluttered, insane info dumps.
My take is that the LoTR books will not ruin the Jackson Trilogy, but The Hobbit book dabs all over The Hobbit film trilogy. It's an abomination that took way too many liberties with the source material for the sake of padding out a new cash cow. Ironic, considering that The Hobbit was Tolkien's simplest, most concise work.
When fucking Frito wakes up from his little coma or whatever, and the little hobbits are jumping up and down on his bed, and Sam leans in the doorway and gives him that very fuckin' gay look.
That look was so gay, I thought Sam was gonna tell the little hobbits to take a walk so he could saunter over to Frodo and suck his fuckin' cock.
And then right after the Sam-Frodo suckfest, right before the credits roll, Sam fucking flat-out bricks in Frodo's mouth.
All of this happens in the book. Sam kisses, strokes, holds frodos hand, snuggles him to sleep. You calling it gay destroys the point that there can be brotherly love without it being sexual.
That is the Jew that did that to you.
Sam knows the burden frodo is going through and is doing everything he can to ease that burden. Not because he wants to fuck Frodo, but because he wants to save middle earth and loves frodo for bearing the burden for everyone.
It is just gay to our generation because gay shit is constantly shoved down our throat and we are blinded by it.
Immortality isn't real. It is already retarded fairytale bullshit. So why is this "loophole" offensive? To me it is like one of those stories about a genie granting a wish but using wordplay to fuck over the wisher.
Assume that guy wished he couldn't be killed by any man. The wish was technically granted but with a loophole.
It is not feminism to acknowledge that it is so unlikely for a woman to kill a man that people can reasonably ignore that possibility.
Tolkien was quite the historian actually, and he focused on what we would call "White" history and mythology. You know, the stuff bards sang/talked about that never really got written down, and when it did it would inevitably "go missing" or get destroyed for diversity or someshit.
He put a lot of that stuff and what he learned in the war into his works.
Plus he created an entire genre, a functional fantasy language, new mythology and the entire story was a parable for moving from an agrarian society into industrialisation and the fallout of World War.
moving from an agrarian society into industrialization
That and how society and (((government))) at large was getting rid of the idea of each person being a distinct human with a character all their own. The idea being to try to turn us all into numbers/cogs to be slotted into whatever design they want at the time, making it easier to control us all.
The films are actually fantastic but the last bits where the jews added their bullshit, it made the whole story detach from everything it tried to tell. The actual story.
All woke and liberals need to have violence advocated against them.
Moria, Minas Morgul ect., are exactly like Chicago, Detroit, Atlanta etc., though Tolkien was likely referring to Constantinople or Jerusalem for inspiration there. He sure as hell wasn't referring to the Germans..
They actually de-niggered the film, the book explicitly states that the Haradrim (guys on the elephants) were black. Proper woowoo big lipped niggers. Obviously they couldn't portray the only evil men/humans in the film as a horde of niggers.
It also had a reference to the golem of Prague, similar to Star Wars (and Quest for Glory 2 but that one's not as well known). A golem/Gollum corrupted by a source of evil magic who ends up overthrowing that source of evil magic and dying in the process.
They have every television show, every movie, most bands, several networks just for them, entire genres are made just for women, they even infiltrated comic books and video games. God forbid there is a twenty five year old franchise that doesn't kiss their ass.
I guess just the lore? Fascinating literature / writing?
Most of if not all of the best and "classic" writings have a very luring way of how they were written in every page. Ie I could read Charles Dickens 'hard times' just for the literary style.
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I've held off on reading the books simply because I quite enjoy the movie series and the book is always better. And fiction is not a high priority for me right now.
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The books are very slow paced, so much so, that the ending battle from the Fellowship film doesn't actually take place until the Two Towers book.
Lots of dated purple prose and meandering world building, but bearable in the main series. If you delve into Tolkien's unfinished/unrefined works like The Silmarillion or Children of Hurin, you're in for a miserable reading experience; those are slogs to read for anyone but the most die hard fans. Even then, you're better off reading a LoTR wiki to learn about Middle Earth than trying to read, retain, and decipher those cluttered, insane info dumps.
My take is that the LoTR books will not ruin the Jackson Trilogy, but The Hobbit book dabs all over The Hobbit film trilogy. It's an abomination that took way too many liberties with the source material for the sake of padding out a new cash cow. Ironic, considering that The Hobbit was Tolkien's simplest, most concise work.
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That look was so gay, I thought Sam was gonna tell the little hobbits to take a walk so he could saunter over to Frodo and suck his fuckin' cock.
And then right after the Sam-Frodo suckfest, right before the credits roll, Sam fucking flat-out bricks in Frodo's mouth.
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That is the Jew that did that to you.
Sam knows the burden frodo is going through and is doing everything he can to ease that burden. Not because he wants to fuck Frodo, but because he wants to save middle earth and loves frodo for bearing the burden for everyone.
It is just gay to our generation because gay shit is constantly shoved down our throat and we are blinded by it.
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Assume that guy wished he couldn't be killed by any man. The wish was technically granted but with a loophole.
It is not feminism to acknowledge that it is so unlikely for a woman to kill a man that people can reasonably ignore that possibility.
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He put a lot of that stuff and what he learned in the war into his works.
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Plus he created an entire genre, a functional fantasy language, new mythology and the entire story was a parable for moving from an agrarian society into industrialisation and the fallout of World War.
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That and how society and (((government))) at large was getting rid of the idea of each person being a distinct human with a character all their own. The idea being to try to turn us all into numbers/cogs to be slotted into whatever design they want at the time, making it easier to control us all.
And I'm not so sure that they didn't succeed.
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All woke and liberals need to have violence advocated against them.
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Wait until they see Stand By Me. A woman is in the movie for barely thirty seconds and that's it. No lines and not even interacting with anyone. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-XWgGQ3I-4&ab_channel=Childofthe80s
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Most of if not all of the best and "classic" writings have a very luring way of how they were written in every page. Ie I could read Charles Dickens 'hard times' just for the literary style.
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BTW, thanks for your kindness towards my mom. She's old and probably lonely.
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