I had to see the aftermath of electrocution if I was going to be an electrician. I wanted to know what my worst case scenario would be should the worst happen.
I’m very careful when I work and I take my time.
These days I do more on the engineering side but I spent at least 15 years working on anything up to 13,800 volts. I’m glad to be designing the circuits and programming PLCs now, I only work with 12-24 dc and only up to 240 ac.
One AA battery could kill you if the current went across your heart. Thankfully one would have to deliberately plan to do that!
“Thirteen eight” just explodes in a fireball of molten metal exploding into your face if you fuck up. Copper beads around 2100-2000 degrees Fahrenheit melting through your body, the air around you and in your lungs igniting… good times.
Yeah but like you said, there's no way 1.5v would get to my heart unless I deliberately jammed electrodes in somehow. And if I'm going that far than I'm probably in as much danger from the tissue damage as my new cyberpunk pacemaker.
“Thirteen eight” just explodes in a fireball of molten metal exploding into your face if you fuck up. Copper beads around 2100-2000 degrees Fahrenheit melting through your body, the air around you and in your lungs igniting… good times.
I once had to pick up a guy who was roofing and accidentally grabbed high voltage. His finger was blown off, the skin on his chest was peeling like from sunburn.
One of my uncle's was chief of emergency medicine at a hospital here in the Tampa Bay area. He had hundreds of stories about faggots coming into the ER, usually either injured in some sort fag kink sex or from overdoses on coke and/or meth (drug use is rampant among fags).
Ask any ER doctor, ER nurse, EMT/paramedic, or firefighter about the faggot calls and they will have hundreds of stories to tell you.
Degenerate acts are the bread and butter of the faggot community.
I'm calling bullshit. The current would go straight through. No way it would travel all the way to his eyeballs, cook them, then travel back to his groin.
Im not an electrician, but it's my understanding that the points of contact don't localize an electrical current when the medium is a human body. Our bodies are essentially one massive conduit with 70% water and high concentrations of salt to boot. Add to it the lack of any safety grounding means, the electricity would, essentially, course through the entire body instead of going from point A to point B, kinda like lighting a match on the edge of a oil pool and seeing it expand across the entire surface.
Untrue. Current follows the path of least resistance. Humans have roughly 10,000 ohms of resistance when not soaking wet, that’s a lot of resistance considering an incandescent light bulb has less than 2 ohms. The higher the resistance, the more heat is generated. You ever touch a hot light bulb? Remember that is only two ohms, we have up to 10k ohms. Humans also have a nervous system which carries electrical pulses to and from the brain.
The electricity will always follow the path least resistant, which in this case was most likely from the anus to the spinal cord, up to the head, then back down along the skin to the balls. During this the current will also naturally dissipate throughout the body because electricity will follow a path until it burns it out and can’t follow it anymore. When humans get electrocuted the entire body can be burnt in a matter of seconds. Remember that this faggot was hooked up for a long time. This is completely possible and probable that his eyes popped. Eyes are basically water filled balls with nerves all through them.
More precisely, current follows the paths of all resistances, but most of the current will follow the path of least resistance. So current would travel all over his internals in parallel paths.
My bigger problem with the story is that I can't imagine they left him plugged in for more than a moment when it would have been apparent something was wrong. Being in the cast would make him sweat and drop his resistant significantly, but I don't know if he could get wet enough to drop it to less than 8 ohms to trip a 30A breaker.
My bigger problem with the story is that I can't imagine they left him plugged in for more than a moment when it would have been apparent something was wrong.
I can see how a bunch of fairies would jump back and do nothing in an emergency. My issue with the story is more the circuitbreakers, those things trip pretty much instantly when I plug in a broken kettle, I can't see this... human heating element having time to get to boiling temperatures before they go.
The balance is perfect considering 220 lines are usually dedicated to one component. Following ohms law a human with 10,000 ohms hooked up to 220 volts draws only 0.022 amps. The breaker will never trip.
Too many people think that breakers and fuses are to trip if a human gets their body in the way. That’s not true, circuit protection is simply there to protect the circuit, not dumbass humans.
The reason you’re broken kettle trips the circuit breaker instantly is because you’re broken kettle is causing what’s called a dead short. A dead short to ground means that you have little to no resistance which in turn causes the amperage to skyrocket.
If you pretend that the electricity is water in a plumbing pipe this scenario gets easier to understand. Voltage is the amount of pressure you apply to the water, amperage is the speed in which the water is flowing through the pipe. Resistance would be restrictions on the flow of the water through the pipe. No restriction means the water flows as fast as it can which is what happens with your kettle.
A human body is doing the exact opposite, it’s absorbing all of that flow and the resistance is turning into heat which is what cooks the person.
The balance is perfect considering 220 lines are usually dedicated to one component. Following ohms law a human with 10,000 ohms hooked up to 220 volts draws only 0.022 amps. The breaker will never trip.
Ok, but in order to inflict the damage described in the OP surely there'd have to be a lot more than .022 amps running through him.
Too many people think that breakers and fuses are to trip if a human gets their body in the way. That’s not true, circuit protection is simply there to protect the circuit, not dumbass humans.
Right, but coincidentally if a human is shorting enough power to kill them it'll probably trip the circuit breakers. Most likely not in time to save them if it's a high power circuit, but nonetheless before they turn into an overcooked sausage.
A human body is doing the exact opposite, it’s absorbing all of that flow and the resistance is turning into heat which is what cooks the person.
Ok, but even if humans were an ideal electric heating element converting every watt of electricity to heat with 100% efficiency they'd still have to be drawing enough power to flash fry themselves in the first place.
Like... you're the engineer here but even with the most efficient heating system 0.022 amps just isn't that much. Humans are mostly water, it takes a lot of energy to get that water boiling.
Yep. Even perfectly converting all that power to heat it'd take quite a while for them to heat a human sized volume of water to the kind of temperature needed to do that.
With electricity energy is measured in voltage and amperage at the same time. the voltage is more than enough to push through his body but not blow out chunks. The amperage is more than enough to generate enough heat with the resistance of his body to cook him alive without tripping the breaker.
The amperage is more than enough to generate enough heat with the resistance of his body to cook him alive without tripping the breaker.
This is the core of what we're arguing about. I'm not so sure and I don't think either of us are willing to take a conductive butt plug up the ass to find out.
In this case the human is acting as a load, not a short to ground. You need to understand that first in order to understand the rest of what I’m talking about.
Again this isn’t your area of expertise and it’s obvious to me, so stop arguing with me and read up on ohms law and the basics of electrical theory.
We keep talking in circles XD. It doesn't matter how resistive his body is, there still has to be enough power running through it to cook him. 0.022 amps x 240 volts isn't enough.
I am absolutely not claiming there isn't enough power to kill him btw, just that the level of damaged described in the OP isn't realistic on a domestic circuit without something tripping.
As resistance goes up the damage is caused in the components, not the circuit. Breakers only trip if amperage increases, the more resistance you add to a circuit the more amperage drops. A breaker isn’t there to protect a person who interrupts the flow, breakers exist to stop a dead short.
You shouldn’t be so confident if you don’t know what you’re talking about.
You shouldn't be so confident other people don't know what they're talking about XD
As I said in my other comment, even if his body were converting 100% of the wattage into heat (which of course it wasn't) there would still need to be enough current running through him to cause the damage described in the OP, which would trip the breakers.
You still aren’t paying attention, because as resistance increases so does heat but amperage drops. Breakers only Tripp if the amperage goes over there rated amount and as far as I know 0.022 is less than 30
What you're saying is like homeopathy for electricity, the less flows the more the heat. It's the opposite. The higher the resistance (RESISTS FLOW), the less flows. If higher resistance increased heat, you'd have insulators catching fire everywhere because they have an effectively infinite resistance.
If you say so, math and physics is on my side here. I’m done arguing with people who don’t know anything about it. I’ve posted more than enough to back myself up and that’s on you to do the reading/learning.
We are talking about how AC behaves in a resistive load circuit. Whether the thermo-magnetic breaker would trip with a high resistive load or not.
9VDC is MUCH lower force than 220-240 VAC. A 9V battery also doesn’t have anywhere near the wattage to push through a 1K ohm resistor, let alone an entire human body.
This is what I’m talking about, you all lack a basic understanding yet are adamant that you know what you're talking about.
You know, I just made cookies tonight because I thought they looked good from a show I watched. It was nice, I had fun. These people could choose to be doing things like that instead, but no... Why on earth did they use 220v? Meth is a hell of a drug.
Lol, why the fck did they keep cooking him until he literally fcking popped ??. Step right up to The ultimate orgasm /. ''It'll blow the sissy right out of yer''
There seems to be a lot of confusion as to why the circuit breaker isn’t tripping in the story. If you enter 220 Volts and 1000 to 10,000 ohms you’ll see why. This is indisputable fact when it comes to electricity, as resistance goes up you’re restricting the flow (amperage) which means you have less of a chance of the breaker tripping.
I don’t understand why so many argue so hard otherwise. A circuit breaker is there to protect the circuit; not the components, and certainly not you.
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I’m very careful when I work and I take my time.
These days I do more on the engineering side but I spent at least 15 years working on anything up to 13,800 volts. I’m glad to be designing the circuits and programming PLCs now, I only work with 12-24 dc and only up to 240 ac.
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“Thirteen eight” just explodes in a fireball of molten metal exploding into your face if you fuck up. Copper beads around 2100-2000 degrees Fahrenheit melting through your body, the air around you and in your lungs igniting… good times.
I hate thirteen eight.
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Well... sounds quick at least.
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Ask any ER doctor, ER nurse, EMT/paramedic, or firefighter about the faggot calls and they will have hundreds of stories to tell you.
Degenerate acts are the bread and butter of the faggot community.
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That's the kind of eggshell fragility that pisses me off. Faggots act like faggots when they're called faggots.
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entire body cooked
I'm calling bullshit. The current would go straight through. No way it would travel all the way to his eyeballs, cook them, then travel back to his groin.
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The electricity will always follow the path least resistant, which in this case was most likely from the anus to the spinal cord, up to the head, then back down along the skin to the balls. During this the current will also naturally dissipate throughout the body because electricity will follow a path until it burns it out and can’t follow it anymore. When humans get electrocuted the entire body can be burnt in a matter of seconds. Remember that this faggot was hooked up for a long time. This is completely possible and probable that his eyes popped. Eyes are basically water filled balls with nerves all through them.
Source: My electrical engineering knowledge.
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My bigger problem with the story is that I can't imagine they left him plugged in for more than a moment when it would have been apparent something was wrong. Being in the cast would make him sweat and drop his resistant significantly, but I don't know if he could get wet enough to drop it to less than 8 ohms to trip a 30A breaker.
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I can see how a bunch of fairies would jump back and do nothing in an emergency. My issue with the story is more the circuitbreakers, those things trip pretty much instantly when I plug in a broken kettle, I can't see this... human heating element having time to get to boiling temperatures before they go.
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The balance is perfect considering 220 lines are usually dedicated to one component. Following ohms law a human with 10,000 ohms hooked up to 220 volts draws only 0.022 amps. The breaker will never trip.
Too many people think that breakers and fuses are to trip if a human gets their body in the way. That’s not true, circuit protection is simply there to protect the circuit, not dumbass humans.
The reason you’re broken kettle trips the circuit breaker instantly is because you’re broken kettle is causing what’s called a dead short. A dead short to ground means that you have little to no resistance which in turn causes the amperage to skyrocket.
If you pretend that the electricity is water in a plumbing pipe this scenario gets easier to understand. Voltage is the amount of pressure you apply to the water, amperage is the speed in which the water is flowing through the pipe. Resistance would be restrictions on the flow of the water through the pipe. No restriction means the water flows as fast as it can which is what happens with your kettle.
A human body is doing the exact opposite, it’s absorbing all of that flow and the resistance is turning into heat which is what cooks the person.
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Ok, but in order to inflict the damage described in the OP surely there'd have to be a lot more than .022 amps running through him.
Right, but coincidentally if a human is shorting enough power to kill them it'll probably trip the circuit breakers. Most likely not in time to save them if it's a high power circuit, but nonetheless before they turn into an overcooked sausage.
Ok, but even if humans were an ideal electric heating element converting every watt of electricity to heat with 100% efficiency they'd still have to be drawing enough power to flash fry themselves in the first place.
Like... you're the engineer here but even with the most efficient heating system 0.022 amps just isn't that much. Humans are mostly water, it takes a lot of energy to get that water boiling.
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This is the core of what we're arguing about. I'm not so sure and I don't think either of us are willing to take a conductive butt plug up the ass to find out.
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Again this isn’t your area of expertise and it’s obvious to me, so stop arguing with me and read up on ohms law and the basics of electrical theory.
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I am absolutely not claiming there isn't enough power to kill him btw, just that the level of damaged described in the OP isn't realistic on a domestic circuit without something tripping.
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As resistance goes up the damage is caused in the components, not the circuit. Breakers only trip if amperage increases, the more resistance you add to a circuit the more amperage drops. A breaker isn’t there to protect a person who interrupts the flow, breakers exist to stop a dead short.
You shouldn’t be so confident if you don’t know what you’re talking about.
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As I said in my other comment, even if his body were converting 100% of the wattage into heat (which of course it wasn't) there would still need to be enough current running through him to cause the damage described in the OP, which would trip the breakers.
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9VDC is MUCH lower force than 220-240 VAC. A 9V battery also doesn’t have anywhere near the wattage to push through a 1K ohm resistor, let alone an entire human body.
This is what I’m talking about, you all lack a basic understanding yet are adamant that you know what you're talking about.
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Win-win
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Step right up to The ultimate orgasm /. ''It'll blow the sissy right out of yer''
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Basically the higher the voltage the more “explodey” things get, the higher the amperage the faster you cook.
Amperage cooks, voltage blows chunks out your body.
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There seems to be a lot of confusion as to why the circuit breaker isn’t tripping in the story. If you enter 220 Volts and 1000 to 10,000 ohms you’ll see why. This is indisputable fact when it comes to electricity, as resistance goes up you’re restricting the flow (amperage) which means you have less of a chance of the breaker tripping.
I don’t understand why so many argue so hard otherwise. A circuit breaker is there to protect the circuit; not the components, and certainly not you.
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