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Atheists are so misunderstood by voat/poal/4chan/conpro. Many believe that all atheists are the enemy. I am here to tell you that is wrong. Don't auto downvote before reading or you are no better then the legions of reddit NPCs following their programming.

submitted by Aze to whatever 2.1 yearsMar 24, 2022 07:30:30 ago (+18/-14)     (whatever)

Hi there. I'm very much atheist and yet I know all about the jew and his tricks (I can hear you thinking how ironic this is all the way here in the past). Give me a chance, and I think you'll see we aren't all so one-dimensional as you may think.

Though I am not perfect, I am also not a degenerate. I do not believe atheism and jewish poison are inseparable. I hate those that have failed in their duty to be strong men, or have embraced the many forms of poison that are being fed to us by the jew (note that I do not necessarily count atheism among them, though it can be). I am proud to be white and love my people, but I recognize the cultural rot that has taken hold in us. As such I avoid this rot wherever possible. I eat right, control my weight, and I lift, I read, and I am not retarded with my money. Obviously I'm not vaccinated, and I will die before I wear a mask. Yes, do I mean that. Basically I am not your 400lb pimply homo from r/atheism.

I've seen a lot of hate for atheists on voat, poal, 4chan, and now here at conpro. Each time I grit my teeth and deal with it, because we are brothers united against a common enemy and discussing these things is desperately hard. More and more I feel there is a misunderstanding, potentially a fatal one, between our white Christian brothers and our atheist ones. This is a wedge between us, and that is why I wish to dispel some of these misconceptions, but I cannot do that if my words are simply rejected out of hand. So I ask you to suspend your preconception of me and mine for a moment while I further introduce myself.

As for atheism being a vector for jewish propaganda; I agree that jews have used atheism to push their agenda, and that many many jews are atheist themselves. This does not mean that all atheist are a result of jewish propaganda, nor does it mean that all atheist are immoral or infected with jewish ideas. Caution is prudent when dealing with an avowed atheist since they are so often subversives, but thoughtlessly rejecting anything said by anyone that is atheist is foolish, and implies there is no such thing as a godless free thinker.

For those that are not yet convinced I am genuinely awake let me give a very small sampler of the things I've learned since I woke up in 2010:

1. 9/11 was an inside job. 100%. This is one of the few "conspiracies" that I am completely sure of and is the revelation that woke me up 12 years ago. Most other conspiracies are on my "maybe shelf". IE, I've seen a lot of compelling evidence for and against, so I've tabled them until I have more info. Not this one though. I'll skip the rest of these conspiracies for now or we'd be here all day.

2. The world is run by evil, degenerate, child raping jews and their traitor allies. These inhuman monsters most likely serve satan and are part of a death cult that I am only beginning to understand. That I believe this last part will seem odd to you, since I obviously don't believe in satan myself, but from the things I've read and seen I've been convinced that THEY DO believe him and are working for him. There actions are wholly evil and I will forever stand against them for it.

3. The White race is at war with the kike for our very survival. They hate us, its called Loxism. They wish us surged from the earth so that they can control the ashes as they like. The White man has been the greatest impediment to their plans for domination and has repeatedly thrown them out for their disgusting crimes like blood libel, not to mention their eternally subversive nature. Race Mixing, homosexuality, militant feminism and the feminization of our men, endless media propaganda, putting non-whites in control anywhere possible, poisoning our food and water with chemicals to keep us sick, and now a forced vaccine campaign designed to depopulate the world (but specifically targeting White countries), and yes even atheism, or to be more specific the end of Christianity. These things are all being used against us to weaken our resolve, sap our strength and our unity, and prevent any concerted effect to defend ourselves against this genocidal campaign. The passing of the great race must be resisted.

4. The world is poised to transition into a totalitarian superstate right out of the pages of 1984 (strong argument that we are already there). The current stage of that transformation is to break up the current powers like the US and transition them into the one world government. This plan is tied inexorably with the end of the petro-dollar, or to be more exact the end of cash transactions. A global digital currency, a "fed coin" will be rolled out all over the planet soon. In fact it is already beginning in Ukraine and now the groundwork is being laid here in the US as well. This will be tied to a Chinese style social credit score system which will cut you off from your own money if you step out of line. This more than almost anything save the death-shot will be the final nail in our coffin. If the jew succeeds in imposing his digital currency, digital ID, and social credit system, then it will mean a thousand years of misery and slavery for humanity. It cannot be allowed to happen.

There is so so much more that I could speak on. Twelve years of searching and learning has left me with a heavy weight of knowledge on my shoulders, knowledge that makes it difficult to be happy or to socialise with normal people. This knowledge, or maybe its my mentality to search for it, has cost me friendships and prevented many more from forming, but it is who I am. For me the saying "ignorance is bliss" could hardly be more true, but what great thinker or philosopher from history would ever choose to become a sheep happily grazing on field of grass even if it meant being free from the pain of knowing the truth?

None I expect. Nor would I.

It is this willingness to embrace an unhappy truth that central to atheism(at least for me), for it is such a hopeless thing to believe there is no God, no life after death, no guarantee of salvation from evil. Hope is fundamental to most humans, so I understand how such I hopeless philosophy would be rejected by so many. But I have the mentality to look into that hopeless abyss in search of the truth, no matter how bleak. Many of the failings of my fellow atheists (even those not poisoned by jewish propaganda) such as nileism or hedonism for example, are tied to this hopelessness, and the weakness of spirit it engenders. I do not believe that this life should be lived as if there are no consequences for our actions, even if I believe that there aren't. Am I a walking contradiction?

Perhaps.

With this introduction done we return to the topic of atheism and how it fits into this equation. Is atheism just more jew poison, or is it something independent of that subversive group? I would argue that atheism is ancient, and is certainly older than the modern kike's attempts at weaponizing it. I would further argue that atheism, like a sword, is neither good nor ill, and any fault lies not in the sword but the hand that wields it. As explained above, many of the moral faults common to atheism are born from a weakness of spirit in the individual and are not absolute givens, as I can attest.

As I said earlier I am not perfect, but I am also not wicked, nor am I asleep. I am atheist for logical, well considered reasons which I'd be happy to explain. I have a firm moral code, built around avoiding harm and maximising good (first for my people), then if possible for others. I don't believe in an afterlife, but rather that this is all we have, and therefore we damn sure better defend it. Evil exists, and must be opposed, or else suffering and damnation will be our reward.

I love the works of George Lincoln Rockwell, and the talks by Dr. William Luther Pierce are some of the hardest hitting shit I've ever seen. I love the music too.

https://files.catbox.moe/4usgiu.mp4

https://files.catbox.moe/fd7yg9.mp4

https://files.catbox.moe/imvr4s.mp4

I (almost completely) agree with the 88 precepts. If you haven't read them what the fuck are you doing with yourself. Fix it.

https://truthoftheorder.weebly.com/88-precepts-by-david-lane.html

Oh, I forget to mention. I was raised Christian, became atheist sometime around 14 after many a late night think considering things like the problem of evil, conflicting religions, the concept of Hell, the idea that foreknowledge of the future is incompatible with free-will etc. I'll explain this all in more detail if you wish but for now I'll say good night.

For other topics like sophistry, or the mercurial nature of morality, well, we can discuss that too if you wish.


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[ - ] noonefromnowhere 15 points 2.1 yearsMar 24, 2022 07:36:50 ago (+16/-1)

Dude, no one cares if you yourself are an atheist. No one can deny that atheist organizations are largely run by jews and entirely push an anti-christian agenda. I used to be an atheist when I was a younger man too, but seeing what happened to America once Christianity got replaced by globohomo made me realize that the people will have a religion no matter what and that the atheist religions are so much worse.

[ - ] PotatoWhisperer 2 points 2.1 yearsMar 24, 2022 09:58:59 ago (+4/-2)

Dude, no one cares if you yourself are an atheist.

Umm, what website are you on?

No one can deny that atheist organizations are largely run by jews and entirely push an anti-christian agenda.

The same could be said of Christian organizations.

the people will have a religion no matter what

Yes, not all of us are smart enough, nor have the wherewithal/time to figure out our own morals/views on the world.

the atheist religions are so much worse

Magical thinking will not get you out of this. If you see people who have turned atheism into their new religion, they are controlled by jews. Atheism is not a religion, despite what you braindead idiots think of it.

And once again I am reminded of why I stopped bothering with the idiots who haven't the faintest idea of what not believing in magic is like. If you need a religion to survive, then look into our "pagan" ancestry, from well before the jews forced the Abrahamic religions on the world. It's certainly a lot less cucked.

[ - ] FacelessOne 1 point 2.1 yearsMar 24, 2022 12:42:04 ago (+1/-0)

You disconnect belief from religion.

That is exactly what Jesus Christ was sent to earth to do.

The Religion of faith became corrupted by the moneychangers and priests.

Christianity is also disconnected from Religious Institutions of Man.

I choose to abstain from going to Churches or having a home Church/Religious Denomination.

I am still a Christian.

[ - ] noonefromnowhere 0 points 2.1 yearsMar 24, 2022 17:43:00 ago (+1/-1)

No one cares about your adolescent "fuck you dad" views on religion.

[ - ] PotatoWhisperer 0 points 2.1 yearsMar 24, 2022 20:20:11 ago (+0/-0)

Grow up.

[ - ] cyclops1771 2 points 2.1 yearsMar 24, 2022 10:47:07 ago (+2/-0)

Replace God with "reason" as religion, or replace God with "Science" as religion, or "Politics", or "InGroup", or "FlavorOfTheMonth" group. People are always going to try and find a way to supply themselves with a overarching task for life, otherwise, might as well be a degenerate consumer, because nothing matters.

It is very difficult to have a moral code when the only moral code must be pure selfishness.

[ - ] Aze [op] 0 points 2.1 yearsMar 24, 2022 15:45:06 ago (+0/-0)

And yet I do.

[ - ] cyclops1771 0 points 2.1 yearsMar 25, 2022 10:33:00 ago (+0/-0)

I said difficult, not impossible.

And since you have a moral code, what stops it from becoming absolutism like extremely religious people's code?

[ - ] Aze [op] 0 points 2.1 yearsMar 24, 2022 15:49:38 ago (+0/-0)

Interestingly, I don't believe atheism is right for everyone for just this reason. Most people do need a strong hand to guide them morally. The fall of christianity in the west is proving disastrous for us, but I personally don't need it to be strong or moral.

[ - ] noonefromnowhere 1 point 2.1 yearsMar 24, 2022 20:03:17 ago (+1/-0)

Yeah, like I said no gives a fuck if you yourself are an atheist, just don't be a fucking jew about it and try to trash christianity because of your unresolved father issues and we'll leave you alone.

Not saying you have unresolved father issues but inevitably all the vocal atheists are doing a big, metaphysical "fuck you dad", even to the point of mockingly calling God "magic sky daddy".

[ - ] FacelessOne 10 points 2.1 yearsMar 24, 2022 07:46:11 ago (+13/-3)

TLDR

Atheists share the same ideology as Marxists. Atheism is literally a chapter in the Protocols.

Fuck off were full.

[ - ] Aze [op] 0 points 2.1 yearsMar 24, 2022 15:56:09 ago (+0/-0)

This is why its so hard to have a conversation about this. I put right in my post that I love my people, agree with the 88 principles, and am hit hard by the words of Dr. Pierce. Tell me what part of any of that is marxist?

No argument matters if you don't even bother to read it of course.

This stupid stubbornness this frustrates me and is part of why I simply grit my teeth and bare it when I hear others badmouth atheism.

[ - ] FacelessOne 0 points 2.1 yearsMar 24, 2022 16:27:15 ago (+0/-0)

Islam won't hesitate to cut your head off as an infidel.

[ - ] Kozel -1 points 2.1 yearsMar 24, 2022 10:32:39 ago (+0/-1)

Lmao that's literally retarded. Convince me that I share same ideology as Marxists and you'll get extra gibs in heaven for converting a heretic.

[ - ] FacelessOne 0 points 2.1 yearsMar 24, 2022 11:09:01 ago (+0/-0)

Read the Communist Manifesto. I cant research simple shit for you. Then read the Protocols of Zion.

Then report back on how you think their usage of atheism is different from yours.

[ - ] Kozel 0 points 2.1 yearsMar 24, 2022 14:26:17 ago (+0/-0)

No thanks. Given that you've made the claim you have the burden of proof. What ideology do I share with Marxists?

[ - ] FacelessOne 0 points 2.1 yearsMar 24, 2022 14:29:54 ago (+0/-0)*

Atheism is directly quoted as being good for their cause, the more atheists the better. The burden is on you to explain how your version is different from what they desire.

The fact you refuse to learn the enemies plans is a choice you make. You can be their "useful idiot" (((their words)))

[ - ] Kozel 0 points 2.1 yearsMar 24, 2022 14:46:28 ago (+0/-0)

While I can appreciate the net positive a religion has upon NPCs, I am not an NPC, therefore I do not need a set of morality guidelines as those are inherent to my character and not outsourced to an organization.

[ - ] FacelessOne 0 points 2.1 yearsMar 24, 2022 14:55:20 ago (+0/-0)

Moral relativity allows for the existence of clownworld.

[ - ] Aze [op] 0 points 2.1 yearsMar 24, 2022 15:58:02 ago (+0/-0)

The jews have weaponized atheism, but atheism itself is not to blame. I am proof that atheist can be right thinking and right doing. Otherwise I'd not be here.

[ - ] Lordbananafist 9 points 2.1 yearsMar 24, 2022 07:39:44 ago (+10/-1)

Didn’t read. Doesn’t matter.

Kill the jews faggot.

[ - ] Reawakened 7 points 2.1 yearsMar 24, 2022 07:54:07 ago (+8/-1)

At the end of the day, all is unknown. There is a God or there is not. We cannot know. We simply choose. I choose to believe that there is a God. What that means, I don't know, but I find comfort in not believing that all is void. For me, the extension of that is that Jesus came to liberate us from sin. His sacrifice and example were given to us as a gift to provide salvation and hope.

jews hate that he invalidated their cynical book keeping system that is designed to profit them and impoverish all others. The Old Testament is not a history of the success of judaism, but is rather a chronicle of their repeated failure. The New Testament is the story of liberation from a failed system and a road map for the individual to break the hold of sin and live the life God intends for us.

If you choose to have faith in the absence of God, that is certainly your prerogative, but it's important to recognize that is still a choice of faith.

[ - ] FacelessOne 1 point 2.1 yearsMar 24, 2022 11:37:21 ago (+1/-0)

This guy gets it

[ - ] deleted 3 points 2.1 yearsMar 24, 2022 09:12:55 ago (+3/-0)

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[ - ] Flabbygasted 2 points 2.1 yearsMar 24, 2022 10:20:46 ago (+2/-0)

Is child mutilation commanded by your god not hostile?

[ - ] deleted 0 points 2.1 yearsMar 24, 2022 12:00:53 ago (+0/-0)

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[ - ] Cellphone 3 points 2.1 yearsMar 24, 2022 08:22:24 ago (+3/-0)

Ok; I'll bite. What's conpro?

[ - ] oyy_veyy_goyy 4 points 2.1 yearsMar 24, 2022 08:33:06 ago (+4/-0)

Consume Product. It was a subreddit that initially existed to criticise consumerism that eventually turned gigabased due to them all recognizing (((patterns))). Predictably they got the ban hammer a few years ago and are now on .win

https://consumeproduct.win/

[ - ] Cellphone 1 point 2.1 yearsMar 24, 2022 11:13:41 ago (+1/-0)

Thank you.

[ - ] VicariousJambi 0 points 2.1 yearsMar 24, 2022 10:19:31 ago (+0/-0)

They're basically as based as voat.

[ - ] Lordbananafist -1 points 2.1 yearsMar 24, 2022 11:45:27 ago (+0/-1)

Lol

BASED KINGS KEK FELLOW WHITES

[ - ] HughBriss 2 points 2.1 yearsMar 24, 2022 12:39:31 ago (+2/-0)

As for atheism being a vector for jewish propaganda

That's all you need to know about atheism. The world's worst mass murderers were both atheists and communists.

[ - ] FacelessOne 0 points 2.1 yearsMar 24, 2022 12:48:37 ago (+0/-0)

Historical Facts

[ - ] Aze [op] 0 points 2.1 yearsMar 24, 2022 16:01:45 ago (+0/-0)

Blame not the sword, but the hand that wields it brother.

[ - ] yesiknow 2 points 2.1 yearsMar 24, 2022 09:55:04 ago (+3/-1)

Where did you get the idea it was about you?

It isn't about you.

Atheists are not good for the cohesive goal. You can be whatever you want, but why make it about your special "I'm not like you, I don't believe in God. I take my strength and focus from myself instead of God."

How does that help the goal?

Demonstrate to yourself the value of yourself. Encourage others towards the goal.

You're looking for outside validity instead of from within yourself, or the rejection of atheist propaganda wouldn't bother you.

Just so you know, it's Christian dogma - Solo Gratia - to listen to the inner voice and let God guide you from within. You don't have to believe it's God, but you have to have a specific determination of what's wrong and right that you didn't just make up yourself because you're a special self thinking atheist who can change right and wrong on a whim. Nobody can trust that.

[ - ] mongre 2 points 2.1 yearsMar 24, 2022 09:23:44 ago (+2/-0)

It's dribble but it beats the low brow cheap ass memes that jews have been flooding the site with lately.

[ - ] GrayDragon 3 points 2.1 yearsMar 24, 2022 09:34:09 ago (+3/-0)

Exactly, he needs an editor. I skipped through it reading about 50% and figure I would still get an A on a quiz, but it is still a nice change from the waterfall of memes we're exposed to daily.

[ - ] CHIRO 2 points 2.1 yearsMar 24, 2022 08:38:41 ago (+2/-0)*

I have negative feelings toward a certain Reddit-tier atheism, the smug and self-assured type who think this debate is a simple one, and who wear t heir uncritical affinity for 'muh science' like it was their boyfriend's varsity jacket.

I love Graham Oppy. He is an atheist, and one of the most respected philosophers in the world today. I don't agree with his most fundamental claims, but I'll always listen to him enthusiastically. Because he isn't a smug prick, and he recognizes this debate isn't simple.

He should set a standard for all atheists. Oppy recognizes that under atheism there are still very difficult things that atheists are obligated to explain (and which remain open questions), while midwit atheists think it's settled. All they have to do is claim their position and say the word 'science', and that's that, reality is closed.

Unfortunately, to understand Oppy means listening in at a level of discourse that most people don't want to. They'll think it is autistic at the level of detail it requires, and with the types of questions it asks. Most midwit religionists and atheists want this secured at the level of chimps throwing shit on social media.

[ - ] Aze [op] 1 point 2.1 yearsMar 24, 2022 16:36:16 ago (+1/-0)

I agree with you about the midwit atheist and Christians alike.

I personally love the talks by the late Christopher Hitchens. He was a giant in the atheist community and a hell of a debater. When he died I remember the tribute his fans gave him where they raised up a glass in his name, and thanked him for teaching them how to think, not what to think.

Also "wine is red"

[ - ] Lazybutler 0 points 2.1 yearsMar 25, 2022 15:32:01 ago (+0/-0)

I never knew what the 88 referred to.
Thanks

[ - ] ruck_feddit 1 point 2.1 yearsMar 24, 2022 10:16:17 ago (+1/-0)

You can still Deus Vult, right?

[ - ] Epictetus 1 point 2.1 yearsMar 24, 2022 09:23:36 ago (+1/-0)

The only people that give a shit about your religious beliefs (unless you are a kike or demon worshipper) are those that have done nothing but bitch online.

In the real world of doing something, we know we will settle things like religion after we defeat our real enemy. No reason to make enemies of other whites.

That said, there are atheists, buddhists, agnostics, and pagans in my circle of compatriots, but we are predominately Christian.

[ - ] albatrosv15 1 point 2.1 yearsMar 24, 2022 09:12:06 ago (+1/-0)

Jesus christ wall of text.
Do you think there is no higher intelligence than humans? For example such beings, which created human races to watch behind the scene like the experiment?

[ - ] Aze [op] 1 point 2.1 yearsMar 24, 2022 16:42:14 ago (+1/-0)

I'm open to the idea of alien intelligences, or perhaps some AI prime mover if this reality is a simulation (but that's not really the topic I came here to discuss).

The problem is evidence. I see no evidence for the existence the Christian God, nor any other of the thousands of Gods mankind has invented in his history.

[ - ] FacelessOne 0 points 2.1 yearsMar 24, 2022 12:38:45 ago (+0/-0)

Perhaps an Extra Dimensional being, let's call it God.

[ - ] deleted 0 points 2.1 yearsMar 24, 2022 15:30:10 ago (+0/-0)

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[ - ] Yargiyankooli 0 points 2.1 yearsMar 24, 2022 11:14:07 ago (+0/-0)

How are you "very much" an atheist. I stopped reading after that. Even an "atheist" ought to understand that the positivist assertion of "I am an atheist" is cringe. How about "I am not convinced in the existence of a god or gods"?

[ - ] Aze [op] 0 points 2.1 yearsMar 24, 2022 16:52:42 ago (+0/-0)

I originally had written "I am atheist as fuck" but that seemed like immature reddit tier crap. I wanted this to be as mature a discussion as is possible for voat given our collective personality. Many of the comments here, yours included show the kind of people I am up against.

When you stop reading after the first line because I didn't word it the way you'd have, well then, the problems lay not with me, but in yourself.

When I see this kind of response I conclude there was never any combination of words or arguments that could convince you to even lend your ear, much less meaningfully consider my side.

[ - ] Yargiyankooli 0 points 2.1 yearsMar 24, 2022 19:33:49 ago (+0/-0)

The real reason I did not read is because I do not care if you believe in god or not.

I was a militant atheist (see that is a better adjective) for most of my life. I learned about the concept of "Religions as Repertoires" and that opened me up a bit more. It is actually an academic leftist theory, not a religiously fundamental one, so it is good for someone who identifies so strongly with their lack of belief in something

[ - ] deleted 0 points 2.1 yearsMar 24, 2022 11:12:39 ago (+0/-0)

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[ - ] Aze [op] 0 points 2.1 yearsMar 24, 2022 16:45:10 ago (+0/-0)

Virtue signalling doesn't work when the virtue is unpopular with your audience, so clearly that was not what I was doing.

Your argument makes no sense.

[ - ] deleted 0 points 2.1 yearsMar 24, 2022 20:59:14 ago (+0/-0)

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[ - ] big_fat_dangus 0 points 2.1 yearsMar 24, 2022 09:38:25 ago (+2/-2)

Imagine making excuses for not believing in childish fairy tales. Christcucks choose to be adult children- explaining anything to them is a waste of time.

[ - ] NationalSocialism 0 points 2.1 yearsMar 24, 2022 08:17:57 ago (+4/-4)

The Old Testament is shared by jews and gentiles. Jesus was a jew and a rabbi. The Ten Commandments are noahide laws. Every single apostle was a kike. I’m in the minority here, but I wouldn’t trust anything written by jews and I certainly wouldn’t worship one.

[ - ] PeckerwoodPerry 0 points 2.1 yearsMar 24, 2022 09:28:18 ago (+1/-1)

Worshipping is for faggots. I do believe in God, but I don't think it cares one fucking bit about being worshipped.

[ - ] BlueEyedAngloMasterRaceGod -5 points 2.1 yearsMar 24, 2022 07:34:51 ago (+1/-6)

i didnt read any of that but anybody who isnt agnostic is a fucking liar. and rightists need to beware the trap of the jewish right hand 'saving you' from the left. why do u think all that 'satanist' shit comes from hollywood which jews control? theyr'e fucking actors u idiots.

[ - ] deleted 3 points 2.1 yearsMar 24, 2022 08:13:12 ago (+3/-0)

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[ - ] BlueEyedAngloMasterRaceGod -1 points 2.1 yearsMar 24, 2022 08:19:57 ago (+2/-3)

triggered christcuck with no argument so resorting to ad hominems detected. fuck off low iq jew slave retard

[ - ] albatrosv15 3 points 2.1 yearsMar 24, 2022 09:15:30 ago (+3/-0)

Anyone saying "christcuck" as an insult is either kikecuck or brainwashed by kikecucks.

[ - ] albatrosv15 1 point 2.1 yearsMar 24, 2022 09:13:19 ago (+1/-0)

Why so many insults, fellow blue eyed anglo master race?

[ - ] BlueEyedAngloMasterRaceGod -1 points 2.1 yearsMar 24, 2022 09:14:56 ago (+0/-1)

i love insulting people it makes me feel big

[ - ] albatrosv15 1 point 2.1 yearsMar 24, 2022 09:16:37 ago (+1/-0)

I see. That will be 5 dollars. Therapy, you know.