I'm about 200 pages into Mein Kampf and I find myself at a loss to grasp the difference between Zionism and the Pan-German sentiments espoused by Hitler. This is especially true since he makes the point that a nation is not a piece of land, but one race with one worldview. The Jew is also one race with one worldview. At the time they had no national land and were therefore easily regarded as parasites. But they now have a homeland to provide security and defense for their race. If the Jew is an eternal parasite then what use does it have for a homeland? If the Jew has a homeland then how can it be a parasite, and thus how can it be morally inferior to the German? Being a parasite is the main and perhaps only argument Hitler makes against the Jew. Is the Jew, now having realized some of its zionist dreams, on equal footing with the German?
[ - ] bosunmoon 1 point 3.1 yearsMar 22, 2022 20:25:54 ago (+1/-0)
Because Hitler wanted every people to dwell in their own land and remain separate in order to retain racial diversity and keep peace. The modern definition of diversity is the polar opposite of the true meaning of the word.
[ - ] TheGreatWar [op] 1 point 3.1 yearsMar 23, 2022 00:13:25 ago (+1/-0)
Hitler believed in territorial expansion backed by population growth where the superior races choke out the inferior. He absolutely didn't believe in keeping peace. He believed in eternal struggle. Please read what he wrote.
We aren't jews. What's good for them isn't good for us, what's good for us is good for us. Having a secure homeland and an expansive empire coming out of it is good for the people who have that. So we want ourselves to have that, and we don't want the jews to have it, because they are our enemy, and what exclusively benefits our enemy harms us. The reverse is also true, which is why the jews don't want us to have this for ourselves, either. The thing that makes somrthing good or bad is who it hurts, and who it helps.
[ - ] TheGreatWar [op] 1 point 3.1 yearsMar 23, 2022 01:15:41 ago (+1/-0)
That's the conclusion I arrive at. This places the Jew on an equal moral footing with the German. Hitler's arguments for natural competition remain sound but his assertion that Jews are parasitic lacks support, at least within Mein Kampf.
It's not the means, but the ends that matters. Not the actions, but the people who stand to benefit or suffer from them. Get this through your head, good and evil are characteristics of genes, not actions, of it benefits the evolutionary interests of your genes, or harms those of their competitors, then the action is good. If the reverse, then evil. Everything we can condemn the jews for is made worthy of condemnation because our people are harmed by their actions, but jews are the ones who stand to gain from them.
I can't make this any simpler, theres your team, and there's the team which opposes your own.
Whatever gets points for your team is good, whatever loses points for your team is evil.
Their team opposes your own, therefore whatever points they get is as good grom your perspective as a point that your team has lost.
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[ - ] BitterVeteran 1 point 3.1 yearsMar 23, 2022 07:29:26 ago (+1/-0)
Kill all jews.
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[ + ] dalai_llama
[ - ] dalai_llama 6 points 3.1 yearsMar 22, 2022 19:29:35 ago (+6/-0)
Yet somehow one group is "God's chosen people and our greatest ally" but the other is "the greatest threat to Europe."
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[ + ] Paradoxical003
[ - ] Paradoxical003 3 points 3.1 yearsMar 22, 2022 20:13:26 ago (+3/-0)*
What's good for them isn't good for us, what's good for us is good for us.
Having a secure homeland and an expansive empire coming out of it is good for the people who have that.
So we want ourselves to have that, and we don't want the jews to have it, because they are our enemy, and what exclusively benefits our enemy harms us.
The reverse is also true, which is why the jews don't want us to have this for ourselves, either.
The thing that makes somrthing good or bad is who it hurts, and who it helps.
[ + ] TheGreatWar
[ - ] TheGreatWar [op] 1 point 3.1 yearsMar 23, 2022 01:15:41 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] Paradoxical003
[ - ] Paradoxical003 1 point 3.1 yearsMar 23, 2022 02:41:01 ago (+1/-0)
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[ + ] TheGreatWar
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[ + ] Paradoxical003
[ - ] Paradoxical003 1 point 3.1 yearsMar 23, 2022 10:29:40 ago (+1/-0)
Not the actions, but the people who stand to benefit or suffer from them.
Get this through your head, good and evil are characteristics of genes, not actions, of it benefits the evolutionary interests of your genes, or harms those of their competitors, then the action is good.
If the reverse, then evil.
Everything we can condemn the jews for is made worthy of condemnation because our people are harmed by their actions, but jews are the ones who stand to gain from them.
I can't make this any simpler, theres your team, and there's the team which opposes your own.
Whatever gets points for your team is good, whatever loses points for your team is evil.
Their team opposes your own, therefore whatever points they get is as good grom your perspective as a point that your team has lost.