Near Death Experiences are one piece of evidence that help prove God and the Bible when considered in context of all the other evidence.
Non-Christians must repent and accept Jesus to enter His kingdom.
NDE Proof:
Dr Jeffrey Long offers 9 “lines of evidence [that] point to the conclusion that near-death experiences are medically inexplicable and cannot be explained by known physical brain function”.
1. Lucid, organized experiences while unconscious, comatose, or clinically dead. These shouldn’t happen according to conventional medical understanding.
2. Seeing ongoing events from a location apart from the physical body while unconscious (out-of-body experience). Studies by Dr. Michael Sabom and Dr. Penny Sartori found that patients resuscitated after an NDE are able to report facts about their resuscitation much more accurately that those who had no NDE.
3. Near-death experiences with vision in the blind and supernormal vision. These people had vivid visual experiences unexpected in those blind since birth.
4. Near-death experiences that occur while under general anaesthesia. It shouldn’t be possible to have a lucid organised memory under a general anaesthetic.
5. Near-death experiences and life reviews. “The consistent accuracy of life reviews, including the awareness of long-forgotten events and awareness of the thoughts and feelings of others from past interactions, further suggests the reality of NDEs.”
6. Encountering deceased loved ones in near-death experiences. In hallucinations and dreams, people are most likely to see living relatives, but in NDEs they are most likely to see dead relatives.
7. Near-death experiences of young children. Young children are less likely to have developed religious or cultural understandings about death and an afterlife, yet their experiences are similar to older people.
8. Cross-cultural study of near-death experiences. Again, the content is similar world wide, regardless of differences in culture and religion.
9. Near-death experience after effects. NDEs commonly lead to significant and positive life changes.
Dr Long says it is a “basic scientific principle that what is real is consistently observed”, and therefore argues for the authenticity of NDE experiences.
[ - ] oppressed [op] 1 point 3.2 yearsMar 2, 2022 15:42:57 ago (+1/-0)
I did say in the context of all the other evidence it can be considered evidence for the Bible. Here is a list of other evidence I've compiled:
1. Millions of witnesses to the Holy Spirit 2. Life-changing near-death experiences of the afterlife and of God 3. Double-blind studies proving answered prayers 4. Millions of testimonies of answered prayers 5. Answered Biblical Prophecy 6. Early historian accounts of Jesus and His followers 7. Systems of the world finely attuned for life 8. The multitude and variety of life 9. Accurate mediumship 10. Biblical events backed up by archaeology 11. The transformative nature of Christ 12. The existence of Jews 13. Cosmological argument 14. Ouija boards 15. Ontological argument
Your still reaching to tie NDEs to Christ's message no matter how many lists you make. The only tie-in would be to say that Christ spoke of a life after this one, and those experiencing an NDE also said there is a life after this one. That isn't any different than every other spiritual teaching on this planet.
You would be well served to contemplate the difference between belief and faith. Those that know, know; those that believe have to try and get others to agree in order to justify their beliefs.
Jesus gave Christians the Great Commission to seek the lost and preach the gospel, so we do need to get people to agree with Christ.
He tasked his Apostles with that responsibility, and Saul of Tarsus was not one of his Apostles. Your task is to figure out what Jesus was really talking about and how it applies to you personally. Believing you know, however, and then spreading misinformation/disinformation is most definitely not going to get you into heaven.
Some NDEs are Christian, many are compatible with a Biblical afterlife experience.
So what? People die to what they believe, and that is why most people report experiences that correlate to their belief system.
Again:
You would be well served to contemplate the difference between belief and faith. Those that know, know; those that believe have to try and get others to agree in order to justify their beliefs.
The most likely explanation is that NDEs are an experiencing of some part of the human organism not normally experienced, some aspect of human functioning that's normally below awareness. In abstract, it's just some novel stimulus triggering a common reaction. It probably shares many things with drug-induced experiences, because they also suppress functioning of some systems as would occur near death.
[ - ] CHIRO 1 point 3.2 yearsMar 2, 2022 07:55:46 ago (+1/-0)*
What's interesting to me is that many of the so-called naturalist answers here will presume an explanation that is merely biological, and therefore physicalist (at bottom), but then throw around the term experience like that falls under the same domain of what biology/physics explains. I'm not disagreeing with your suggestion about a possibility for what NDEs are; I'm just pointing out that what requires explaining is broader than non-sober states. Even the sober state is not adequately explained by any of the existing sciences.
The scale for reporting NDE experiences was developed in the 80s and has four subscales: cognitive, affective, paranormal and transcendent.
There is a study from a few years ago which found DMT experiences tend to produce matched NDE-associated experiences most strongly in the affective subscale, and also in the paranormal.
That looks like: perceiving the environment as not-earth, feelings of peace, heightened senses, loss of the perception of separation from things, unexplainable bright light, feelings of joy, with some sense of the presence of other beings.
What's interesting is that DMT experience had far less of the cognitive aspects commonly reported with NDEs, including almost no reports of something called 'life review' that is more common with NDEs.
NDEs also often featured the sense that one is crossing a border/point of no return, which is not at all common in DMT experiences.
I just thought it was interesting that DMT skewed so much toward the emotional and sensorial part of the scale of NDE features.
Lastly, research in this arena is iffy at best. Relying on surveys given to drug users after their experiences together with subjective reports of people with NDEs is not a wonderful method. It's interesting. But it would be like surveying someone who goes to a rock concert versus someone who goes to a symphony, and deciding these two experiences were caused by an identical thing because they had similar features like: loudness, musicality, perception of a band with instruments, etc.
Whats your thought on the prison planet theory? The thought that those "light beings" or whatever are tricking us into reincarnating for whatever reason.
[ - ] CHIRO 1 point 3.2 yearsMar 2, 2022 10:45:44 ago (+1/-0)
I don't know a whole lot about the theory. I'm much more familiar with the Gnostics, and I've always thought that the Prison Planet theory seemed like a modernized form of Gnostic belief. It interests me that these thought forms are so persistent, that people two-thousand years in the past would have a kind of 'cosmology' essentially similar to people theorizing about the Prison Planet today. Why won't those ideas go away? They show up in sci-fi all of the time; I'm thinking of The Matrix trilogy.
It runs completely contrary to theist views, which is worth considering. Under theism, Creation has a good purpose. Under Gnosticism, it's bad. One big part of the Prison Planet theory as I understand it is that the kinds of figures humans have always described religiously are actually aliens/extra-terrestrials. The way you've described it seems more like a traditional Gnosticism, where the 'guards' are supernatural.
Thought experiments like Putnam's 'brain in a vat' might interest you to read about, if you haven't before.
The difficulty with all of these lines of thinking is that they are all 'strong' in the sense of being (more or less) logically consistent and very difficult, if not impossible, to falsify. It becomes a big exploration of which worldviews are the most consistent. Catholicism/Christianity? Hinduism? Gnosticism? Aliens? It's a big project, and it seems that no matter how strong your reasons are, people will believe whatever they're going to believe.
This is why psychedelics are illegal, because they help you find the truth.
No its because they make you insane and promote too much naval gazing. Strict morality = high efficiency = We get to have nice things.
Psychadeliics don’t help promote a better understanding of reality. There’s no reason to think psychadelics remove the scales from your eyes. They just change the normal functioning of your brain. Which is potentially unhealthy and usually not particularly productive.
[ - ] Prairie 1 point 3.2 yearsMar 2, 2022 08:18:24 ago (+1/-0)
Interesting, especially about how they study these. I definitely don't want to reduce us to mere biological machines. My dismissal is more to avoid baseless conclusions about what must be the source of something, because that gets in the way of further investigation (holding possibilities open). NDEs possibly a brush with something greater? Definitely. But also possibly many other things, also meaningful and important.
We may be beyond our own understanding but that doesn’t mean we are anything more than sophisticated machines. There’s no reason to infer that there is a supernatural aspect to our existence. Once you accept that, its hard to believe there’s another reasonable explanation imo.
I guess I can't shut off the side of me that experiences things with wonder and imagination at possibilities. I agree about jumping to conclusions about supernatural entities. It's ridiculous, going into realms we probably can't comprehend. I can't reasonably claim anything for certain about the big picture, but can still agree with you regarding what we can reasonably consider likely and spend more of our time studying. I want us to keep finding out more about reality and not get stuck with presumptions of what's there.
We evolved the ability to imagine an afterlife and supernatural realms with beings that fight some cosmic war of good and evil because it seems we have a better chance of surviving if we believe in such things. Individuals that make great sacrifices for god may actually be helping the tribe — without belief in the supernatural these sacrifices look very irrational and unattractive. These supernatural “memes” and the cognitive processes that support them are adaptations for survival.
It would be awesome if we were magical beings that were more than flesh and blood. But its an illusion that gives us a sense of meaning in our lives so that we can carry on, and have kids and have hope for the future.
Its a bit of a black pill. Its best not to think on it too much.
My uncle had an NDE and all he experienced was a peaceful state in a beautiful meadow. He had no life review or message to bring back, but for the rest of his life he was more relaxed and didn't fear death.
It's a common theory in several religions. At first you might be inclined to conclude it's an "eastern" idea but in practice all the religions had white roots.
I'm more interested in discussing the theory itself and how the new studies on near death experiences relate to it, if we're being tricked, if reality really is a "school", that sort of thing.
[ - ] Peleg 1 point 3.2 yearsMar 2, 2022 11:54:46 ago (+1/-0)
A family member recently had a NDE and told us about it. Thank you for this post. It will give me some things to consider. I have also spoken to several other people that have had NDE. One in particular told of being in a very dark miserable place. This person could see and hear people that they knew. People that had died. This person believes that they was given a tour of hell. The thing is that nothing anyone can say or do can convince this person that it was something else. Very persistent in the belief. That seems to be a common thing with everyone I've spoken to about their experience.
I am the Lord your Dog; you shall not have strange dogs before me. In fact, you shall not even let strange dogs walk down the street in front of my house or I will bark and bark and make a big fucking nuisance.
So says my dog.
And forgive us our trespasses...
Nope. Lord Dog does not forgive trespasses. You better walk around.
bullshit. NOBODY has been brought back from BRAIN death. Near-death "Experiences" are either dreams or halluciniation and occur BEFORE death. Get you phax straight.
I drowned when I was a kid. My parents found me floating, facedown in the pool. My father was a doctor and able to bring me back. All I remember was a feeling like being flushed down the toilet.
No, the biggest deception was getting Europeans to stop worshiping their own gods and worshiping a jewish one, ya dumb fuck. Europeans aren't sand people.
Convincing you that Israelites/Jesus were sandpeople is part of their deception.
Are you denying the Greeks, the Romans, and the Norse didn't have their own gods? Israel is sand territory occupied sand people, not Europeans, you dumb fuck. You don't just invent that out of thin air and create an entire hoax of history. The people living in near the caves were the Dead Sea Scrolls were fond were not Europeans, you dumb fuck.
The Israelites were white. They migrated out of the middle east into what is now Europe.
That's fucking retarded. If that was the case, they would have kept their religion. There's no trace of it. That's why the earliest European religions had nothing to do with the sand people religion.
"Arab" means "to darken". As in the middle east was white, but it was overrun, and became darker.
Again, fucking retarded. They are dark because they evolved to match their climate, which was desert. Europeans are white because they evolved to live in northern climates in forests.
Damn Christcucks just have no common sense, and will believe anything to save their precious jewish religion.
You literally follow the religion spread by Saul/Paul. It's literally in your Bible that they argued about whether gentiles had to follow jewish practices. You deny your own heritage so that you can follow the christcuck religion spread by jews. The Romans had no jewish god when they conquered Israel and renamed the territory to Palestine.
No imagined pagan diety will ever do anything. Never will one of them create even a single atom, even if they should all come together for this purpose. And if a gnat were to steal something from them, there isn't anything they could do to it at all.
Allah is the creator of the heavens and the earth, and you have no deity besides Him. He is your Lord and my Lord.
[ + ] Broc_Liath
[ - ] Broc_Liath 10 points 3.2 yearsMar 2, 2022 08:20:23 ago (+11/-1)
[ + ] localsal
[ - ] localsal 3 points 3.2 yearsMar 2, 2022 11:16:06 ago (+3/-0)
Where do thoughts materialize from? What central "processor" do all our senses connect to? How do we know we are alive?
Maybe a NDE is just our external self making better connections to our physical self.
[ + ] FalseRealityCheck
[ - ] FalseRealityCheck 0 points 3.2 yearsMar 2, 2022 11:18:13 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] oppressed
[ - ] oppressed [op] 1 point 3.2 yearsMar 2, 2022 15:42:57 ago (+1/-0)
1. Millions of witnesses to the Holy Spirit
2. Life-changing near-death experiences of the afterlife and of God
3. Double-blind studies proving answered prayers
4. Millions of testimonies of answered prayers
5. Answered Biblical Prophecy
6. Early historian accounts of Jesus and His followers
7. Systems of the world finely attuned for life
8. The multitude and variety of life
9. Accurate mediumship
10. Biblical events backed up by archaeology
11. The transformative nature of Christ
12. The existence of Jews
13. Cosmological argument
14. Ouija boards
15. Ontological argument
[ + ] FalseRealityCheck
[ - ] FalseRealityCheck 1 point 3.2 yearsMar 2, 2022 15:56:57 ago (+1/-0)
You would be well served to contemplate the difference between belief and faith. Those that know, know; those that believe have to try and get others to agree in order to justify their beliefs.
[ + ] oppressed
[ - ] oppressed [op] 0 points 3.2 yearsMar 3, 2022 02:38:26 ago (+0/-0)
Some NDEs are Christian, many are compatible with a Biblical afterlife experience.
[ + ] FalseRealityCheck
[ - ] FalseRealityCheck 0 points 3.2 yearsMar 3, 2022 08:53:07 ago (+0/-0)
Again:
[ + ] Deleted
[ - ] deleted 7 points 3.2 yearsMar 2, 2022 06:56:39 ago (+7/-0)
[ + ] Prairie
[ - ] Prairie 2 points 3.2 yearsMar 2, 2022 07:27:41 ago (+2/-0)*
[ + ] CHIRO
[ - ] CHIRO 1 point 3.2 yearsMar 2, 2022 07:55:46 ago (+1/-0)*
The scale for reporting NDE experiences was developed in the 80s and has four subscales: cognitive, affective, paranormal and transcendent.
There is a study from a few years ago which found DMT experiences tend to produce matched NDE-associated experiences most strongly in the affective subscale, and also in the paranormal.
That looks like: perceiving the environment as not-earth, feelings of peace, heightened senses, loss of the perception of separation from things, unexplainable bright light, feelings of joy, with some sense of the presence of other beings.
What's interesting is that DMT experience had far less of the cognitive aspects commonly reported with NDEs, including almost no reports of something called 'life review' that is more common with NDEs.
NDEs also often featured the sense that one is crossing a border/point of no return, which is not at all common in DMT experiences.
I just thought it was interesting that DMT skewed so much toward the emotional and sensorial part of the scale of NDE features.
Lastly, research in this arena is iffy at best. Relying on surveys given to drug users after their experiences together with subjective reports of people with NDEs is not a wonderful method. It's interesting. But it would be like surveying someone who goes to a rock concert versus someone who goes to a symphony, and deciding these two experiences were caused by an identical thing because they had similar features like: loudness, musicality, perception of a band with instruments, etc.
[ + ] VicariousJambi
[ - ] VicariousJambi 3 points 3.2 yearsMar 2, 2022 08:45:44 ago (+3/-0)
[ + ] CHIRO
[ - ] CHIRO 1 point 3.2 yearsMar 2, 2022 10:45:44 ago (+1/-0)
It runs completely contrary to theist views, which is worth considering. Under theism, Creation has a good purpose. Under Gnosticism, it's bad. One big part of the Prison Planet theory as I understand it is that the kinds of figures humans have always described religiously are actually aliens/extra-terrestrials. The way you've described it seems more like a traditional Gnosticism, where the 'guards' are supernatural.
Thought experiments like Putnam's 'brain in a vat' might interest you to read about, if you haven't before.
The difficulty with all of these lines of thinking is that they are all 'strong' in the sense of being (more or less) logically consistent and very difficult, if not impossible, to falsify. It becomes a big exploration of which worldviews are the most consistent. Catholicism/Christianity? Hinduism? Gnosticism? Aliens? It's a big project, and it seems that no matter how strong your reasons are, people will believe whatever they're going to believe.
[ + ] Deleted
[ - ] deleted 1 point 3.2 yearsMar 2, 2022 11:21:27 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 3.2 yearsMar 3, 2022 15:09:24 ago (+0/-0)
No its because they make you insane and promote too much naval gazing. Strict morality = high efficiency = We get to have nice things.
Psychadeliics don’t help promote a better understanding of reality. There’s no reason to think psychadelics remove the scales from your eyes. They just change the normal functioning of your brain. Which is potentially unhealthy and usually not particularly productive.
[ + ] Prairie
[ - ] Prairie 1 point 3.2 yearsMar 2, 2022 08:18:24 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] CHIRO
[ - ] CHIRO 0 points 3.2 yearsMar 2, 2022 10:34:42 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 3.2 yearsMar 2, 2022 11:10:47 ago (+0/-0)
That’s what we are.
[ + ] CHIRO
[ - ] CHIRO 0 points 3.2 yearsMar 2, 2022 16:36:06 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena 1 point 3.2 yearsMar 3, 2022 15:01:57 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] Prairie
[ - ] Prairie 0 points 3.2 yearsMar 2, 2022 16:39:02 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 3.2 yearsMar 3, 2022 15:00:48 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Prairie
[ - ] Prairie 0 points 3.2 yearsMar 3, 2022 23:39:08 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 3.2 yearsMar 4, 2022 17:19:07 ago (+0/-0)
It would be awesome if we were magical beings that were more than flesh and blood. But its an illusion that gives us a sense of meaning in our lives so that we can carry on, and have kids and have hope for the future.
Its a bit of a black pill. Its best not to think on it too much.
[ + ] Deleted
[ - ] deleted 1 point 3.2 yearsMar 2, 2022 10:12:16 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] Deleted
[ - ] deleted 0 points 3.2 yearsMar 2, 2022 11:33:23 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Sleazy
[ - ] Sleazy 0 points 3.2 yearsMar 2, 2022 12:28:00 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Deleted
[ - ] deleted 0 points 3.2 yearsMar 3, 2022 16:34:20 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] FalseRealityCheck
[ - ] FalseRealityCheck 1 point 3.2 yearsMar 2, 2022 11:29:58 ago (+1/-0)
My uncle had an NDE and all he experienced was a peaceful state in a beautiful meadow. He had no life review or message to bring back, but for the rest of his life he was more relaxed and didn't fear death.
[ + ] FalseRealityCheck
[ - ] FalseRealityCheck 0 points 3.2 yearsMar 2, 2022 11:20:10 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] VicariousJambi
[ - ] VicariousJambi 2 points 3.2 yearsMar 2, 2022 08:17:34 ago (+2/-0)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Mwlxr-xcjs
Also have been looking into prison planet theory lately, have you heard about that?
[ + ] Broc_Liath
[ - ] Broc_Liath 1 point 3.2 yearsMar 2, 2022 08:22:07 ago (+1/-0)
Like gnosticism?
[ + ] VicariousJambi
[ - ] VicariousJambi 1 point 3.2 yearsMar 2, 2022 08:34:10 ago (+1/-0)
Some videos on it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGTs_Kogk8Q&
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmXlMUJFTlc
[ + ] Broc_Liath
[ - ] Broc_Liath 0 points 3.2 yearsMar 2, 2022 08:36:36 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] VicariousJambi
[ - ] VicariousJambi 0 points 3.2 yearsMar 2, 2022 08:44:33 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] heroinwinsagain
[ - ] heroinwinsagain 1 point 3.2 yearsMar 2, 2022 15:29:37 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] Peleg
[ - ] Peleg 1 point 3.2 yearsMar 2, 2022 11:54:46 ago (+1/-0)
Thank you for this post. It will give me some things to consider.
I have also spoken to several other people that have had NDE. One in particular told of being in a very dark miserable place. This person could see and hear people that they knew. People that had died.
This person believes that they was given a tour of hell.
The thing is that nothing anyone can say or do can convince this person that it was something else. Very persistent in the belief. That seems to be a common thing with everyone I've spoken to about their experience.
[ + ] oppressed
[ - ] oppressed [op] 1 point 3.2 yearsMar 2, 2022 15:51:35 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] mattsixteen24
[ - ] mattsixteen24 0 points 3.2 yearsMar 2, 2022 15:52:38 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena 1 point 3.2 yearsMar 3, 2022 15:13:41 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] Deleted
[ - ] deleted 1 point 3.2 yearsMar 3, 2022 16:37:10 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena 1 point 3.2 yearsMar 3, 2022 17:11:54 ago (+1/-0)
So says my dog.
Nope. Lord Dog does not forgive trespasses. You better walk around.
[ + ] thebearfromstartrack4
[ - ] thebearfromstartrack4 0 points 3.2 yearsMar 2, 2022 14:11:36 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Boyakasha
[ - ] Boyakasha 0 points 3.2 yearsMar 2, 2022 13:02:39 ago (+1/-1)
[ + ] Deleted
[ - ] deleted 0 points 3.2 yearsMar 2, 2022 09:49:17 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] PeckerwoodPerry
[ - ] PeckerwoodPerry 2 points 3.2 yearsMar 2, 2022 11:52:03 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] Deleted
[ - ] deleted 0 points 3.2 yearsMar 3, 2022 16:38:06 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Deleted
[ - ] deleted 1 point 3.2 yearsMar 2, 2022 10:14:15 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] Deleted
[ - ] deleted 1 point 3.2 yearsMar 2, 2022 11:09:09 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] boekanier
[ - ] boekanier 0 points 3.2 yearsMar 2, 2022 09:18:07 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] albatrosv15
[ - ] albatrosv15 0 points 3.2 yearsMar 2, 2022 07:44:45 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] account deleted by user
[ - ] account deleted by user -2 points 3.2 yearsMar 2, 2022 09:46:29 ago (+0/-2)
[ + ] chrimony
[ - ] chrimony 0 points 3.2 yearsMar 2, 2022 10:24:33 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] account deleted by user
[ - ] account deleted by user 0 points 3.2 yearsMar 2, 2022 11:07:15 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] FalseRealityCheck
[ - ] FalseRealityCheck 1 point 3.2 yearsMar 2, 2022 11:21:07 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] chrimony
[ - ] chrimony 0 points 3.2 yearsMar 2, 2022 11:52:09 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] chrimony
[ - ] chrimony -2 points 3.2 yearsMar 2, 2022 11:51:10 ago (+1/-3)
[ + ] account deleted by user
[ - ] account deleted by user -2 points 3.2 yearsMar 2, 2022 13:29:47 ago (+1/-3)
[ + ] chrimony
[ - ] chrimony 2 points 3.2 yearsMar 2, 2022 18:23:03 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] account deleted by user
[ - ] account deleted by user 0 points 3.2 yearsMar 2, 2022 19:26:54 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] chrimony
[ - ] chrimony 0 points 3.2 yearsMar 2, 2022 20:07:24 ago (+0/-0)
Are you denying the Greeks, the Romans, and the Norse didn't have their own gods? Israel is sand territory occupied sand people, not Europeans, you dumb fuck. You don't just invent that out of thin air and create an entire hoax of history. The people living in near the caves were the Dead Sea Scrolls were fond were not Europeans, you dumb fuck.
That's fucking retarded. If that was the case, they would have kept their religion. There's no trace of it. That's why the earliest European religions had nothing to do with the sand people religion.
Again, fucking retarded. They are dark because they evolved to match their climate, which was desert. Europeans are white because they evolved to live in northern climates in forests.
Damn Christcucks just have no common sense, and will believe anything to save their precious jewish religion.
[ + ] account deleted by user
[ - ] account deleted by user 0 points 3.2 yearsMar 2, 2022 21:49:53 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] chrimony
[ - ] chrimony 0 points 3.2 yearsMar 3, 2022 01:04:07 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Nagasaki
[ - ] Nagasaki -4 points 3.2 yearsMar 2, 2022 12:50:17 ago (+0/-4)
[ + ] chrimony
[ - ] chrimony 1 point 3.2 yearsMar 2, 2022 18:25:17 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] Nagasaki
[ - ] Nagasaki 0 points 3.2 yearsMar 2, 2022 23:59:47 ago (+0/-0)
Allah is the creator of the heavens and the earth, and you have no deity besides Him. He is your Lord and my Lord.
[ + ] chrimony
[ - ] chrimony 0 points 3.2 yearsMar 3, 2022 01:00:38 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Nagasaki
[ - ] Nagasaki 0 points 3.2 yearsMar 3, 2022 13:47:24 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Nagasaki
[ - ] Nagasaki 0 points 3.2 yearsMar 2, 2022 23:55:17 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] chrimony
[ - ] chrimony 0 points 3.2 yearsMar 3, 2022 01:01:35 ago (+0/-0)
Same is true for Christcucks. Same jewish nonsense, though.
[ + ] Deleted
[ - ] deleted 0 points 3.2 yearsMar 3, 2022 16:42:35 ago (+0/-0)