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Can you explain the Russia and Ukraine?

submitted by 2Drunk to AskUpgoat 2.3 yearsFeb 26, 2022 10:16:50 ago (+19/-0)     (AskUpgoat)

I do not believe anything we are being told. I also don't believe the deep state postings. I don't believe anyone. Russia is not waging war just to retake land. Ukraine is not sending every last woman and child to fight for their freedom. Is this just a Chess game to keep us entertained/distracted? Is the goal a global currency so anyone that has a thought other than that of the narrative is cut off?


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[ - ] deleted 10 points 2.3 yearsFeb 26, 2022 10:19:39 ago (+10/-0)*

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[ - ] mikenigger 0 points 2.3 yearsFeb 26, 2022 11:03:39 ago (+4/-4)*

Germany made some real retarded moves strategically which could only be explained by incompetence or Russians meddling with their politics, they can't enter those deals without jeopardizing Europe's security.

A pipeline that would make the rest of the pipelines in Eastern/Central Europe irrelevant opens up the entire continent to more geopolitical influence from Russia. Unlike in the US there has to be a fine geopolitical balance in Europe or everything goes to shit. The EU and NATO are part of maintaining that united front both in trade deals and potential military conflicts. Germany has been a member of both for decades, its obligations to these organizations are nothing new to them so when they do a backroom deal like this the reaction from Washington is expected.

Do note that jew cocksucker Trump tried to pull out of NATO and was blocked by Congress. If you want to talk about white-on-white jew wars that would have definitely lead to one shortly after.

[ - ] MichelleObamasPenis 0 points 2.3 yearsMar 13, 2022 09:43:13 ago (+0/-0)

A pipeline that would make the rest of the pipelines in Eastern/Central Europe irrelevant

Get a grip. What propaganda bullshit. In your febrile mind, once Nordstream 2 comes on line - which it will - the Turks will go "oh, golly gosh, Turkstream is now (get this) "irrelevant", let us not use it any more"

FFS

[ - ] deleted 7 points 2.3 yearsFeb 26, 2022 10:25:51 ago (+7/-0)

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[ - ] GloryBeckons 2 points 2.3 yearsFeb 26, 2022 13:55:23 ago (+2/-0)

Letting NPCs determine what you believe in makes you an NPC. That includes mindlessly taking the opposite side, just to avoid agreeing on anything.

There is limited footage because both sides have issued a moratorium on posting anything, to avoid giving away strategic details and locations of troops. Nevertheless, you can find plenty if you actually look for it.

Assuming this will end with Ukraine, after they "figure their own shit out", is just as retarded as believing that amassing 190,000 troops and surrounding the border of another country might be just a training exercise, and then being surprised when it turns out to be a full scale invasion. Russia has already also threatened Finland and Sweden with military action. And, in the original declaration of war, Putin explicitly threatened the entire West, while emphasizing his nuclear arsenal.

Wake the fuck up.

[ - ] deleted 4 points 2.3 yearsFeb 26, 2022 14:09:16 ago (+4/-0)

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[ - ] yesiknow 1 point 2.3 yearsFeb 26, 2022 17:53:14 ago (+1/-0)

"what I KNOW is that the united states government (and many others) are taking their orders from the UN and the WEF".

Whatever is going on those are the people I want unmercifully destroyed , and that makes it difficult not to side with Russia, even though Putin has ties with the WEF which makes it all kind of bulshitty and jewy.

[ - ] deleted 1 point 2.3 yearsFeb 26, 2022 18:27:40 ago (+1/-0)

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[ - ] qwop 2 points 2.3 yearsFeb 26, 2022 16:25:46 ago (+2/-0)

Previously Finland always tried to position themselves as a neutral buffer to Russia. Now Finland is basically run by EU bureaucrats and US/NATO loving leftists globalists. Prime minister Sanna Marin is a WEF member.

Joining NATO is a really foolish idea, because of course it would anger Russia. But the leftists in power cannot help themselves, and the local MSM is painting Putin as "worse than Hitler" each and every day.

The brainwashing is complete, and the Finnish people will be begging to join NATO at any moment. Mission accomplished.

[ - ] GloryBeckons 1 point 2.3 yearsFeb 26, 2022 17:34:34 ago (+1/-0)

Gee, I wonder what would make them want to join NATO. Surely, it can't be that Russia is openly threatening them, while invading another neighbor, after blatantly lying about their intentions for months. No, it can't be any of that. It must be the brainwashing kicking in.

The funny thing about brainwashing is that it is very easy to see in others, but very difficult to recognize in yourself.

The only reason for someone to get angry at you for joining a defensive alliance is that it would interfere with their ambitions to attack you some day. The notion that NATO is out to get Russia, and building bases around them in preparation for an attack, is schizo-tier paranoid absurdity. Just look at how they're bending over backwards to avoid going to war with Russia, even in the face of open aggression. If they wanted to attack, Russia has given them more than enough reason to do so already.

The only purpose of NATO and its bases is to discourage Russia from attacking the West. And Russia just proved why that is necessary.

[ - ] yesiknow 2 points 2.3 yearsFeb 26, 2022 17:57:24 ago (+2/-0)

They NATO and UN alliance has been shoveling cash and weapons at Ukraine so they can shell, bomb and kill people in the Eastern provinces for decades, while the Ukrainians live in shit shacks.

They've been shelling, bombing and killing ordinary people on behalf of the NATO globohomo Stalinists and you're OK with that.

[ - ] GloryBeckons 2 points 2.3 yearsFeb 26, 2022 18:23:21 ago (+2/-0)

There would be no shelling in eastern Ukraine if Russia had not invaded Crimea and armed and supported rebels in the eastern provinces, who then proceeded to shell, bomb and kill people in the name of stealing even more territory from Ukraine. And who also shot down a civilian airplane with 298 people on board, in case you had forgotten.

You don't show up in a foreign country, occupy its territory, incite armed rebellion, murder civilians, and then act like you are the victim when the country defends itself. Fuck that and fuck you.

Fuck the globohomos, too. But Russians are the original globohomo multiculti statist mongrel empire. And after Holodomor, they have absolutely no business telling Ukrainians what to do, how to live, who to be allied with, or anything else. Much less marching in and pretending to be "liberating" Ukraine from anything. Go suck Putins cock some more.

[ - ] yesiknow 0 points 2.3 yearsFeb 26, 2022 18:43:36 ago (+0/-0)

oh for fuck's sake. Who are you pimping? Russia invaded Crimea is so cartoonish and such a fucking blatant lie it's ridiculous. Get on a plane and go ask them. Better speak Russian though because they're ethnically Russian and didn't want to be part of the ukrainian nutballery.

You're actually trying to say the ukes didn't start murdering citizens until the Crimea voted to leave? A fucking lie. They've been pouring money into arms there since the oil for food scam which was two hot seconds after the USSR ceased to exist

Or does common sense not live in the jew world order fantasy/ No it does not. Give it a rest. You're so over.

[ - ] GloryBeckons 0 points 2.3 yearsFeb 26, 2022 19:18:46 ago (+0/-0)

Oil for food? Are you confusing Iraq with Ukraine or something?

If they wanted to be Russian, and wanted to live in Russia, and were being holocausted by the evil Ukrainians... why were they still in Ukraine? Why not go to Russia, and be Russian, in Russia? Why stay in a country they didn't want to be in, where they kept being persecuted and genocided, for decades, apparently? So they could turn on their host country and backstab them while playing the victim? And you talk about Jewish fantasies...

Putin wanted supremacy over the Black Sea. That's all that was about. But keep swallowing his propaganda.

[ - ] yesiknow 0 points 2.3 yearsFeb 26, 2022 22:31:27 ago (+0/-0)

Stop playing stupid. The Iraq scam was to set the UN to administer the country. They sold Iraq's oil for politician's and other's profit, and they gave ukrainian agitaors 8 million barrels of oil to sell to buy weapons. Iraq got rotten food in return and so will you.

How would the Crimeans pick up their country and move It? Oh they wouldn't. They'd answer a referendum asking them if they'd like to return their country to the mother country Apparently you don't know who lives in Crimea.

[ - ] UncleDoug 1 point 2.3 yearsFeb 26, 2022 22:16:01 ago (+1/-0)

Gee, I wonder what would make them want to join NATO.

Exactly, Russia already invaded Ukraine last year annexing Ukraine, Azerbaijani and several other central aisan and Balkans states.

The only purpose of NATO and its bases is to discourage Russia from attacking the West. And Russia just proved why that is necessary.

^ Russia should not be in Ukraine.

[ - ] qwop 0 points 2.3 yearsFeb 26, 2022 19:19:20 ago (+1/-1)

Well everyone is brainwashed to an extent, because we have such a terrible information war going on. Even you are, as like you say, it is difficult to detect when one is under the spell of another.

I see you have a very black and white view of the situation. I happen to think there is more nuance here, which is kept obfuscated from us on purpose.

Unfortunately I am running out of steam to explain this further, as this topic is too complex, and requires extensive detailed replies.

All I can say is, there are other solutions and scenarios also, than the either/or that is being offered now, which is join NATO, or be invaded by Russia.

I am sure even you could appreciate this, that in this complex world, to assume you only have two options, is quite unlikely the full truth. But we are only presented with those two; join NATO or die. I consider that propaganda, because I see there are other ways to deal with this too.

You see, once you see that those that offer you solutions, do not actually present all the solutions to you, you understand that you are being had.

Just like with COVID, the only solutions presented were vaccines or die, even though other scenarios, methods, and solutions do exist. All it took was to realize this fact, and the veil would fall off.

I hope you can appreciate this thinking, even though perhaps you personally are only aware of the two NATO or die solutions. I am aware of more than two, and hence I can see that there is a narrowing of awareness being constructed, which seems very purposeful and disingenuous to me. In other words, to put it in simple terms, people are being lied to (or we are ruled by morons, who have no interest to seek better solutions, which is also a very real possibility).

[ - ] GloryBeckons 1 point 2.3 yearsFeb 26, 2022 20:11:15 ago (+1/-0)*

I never said or implied that there are only two options. Plenty of countries aren't in NATO and have no need to be.

The case I presented is only that NATO offers a solution, not the only solution. A solution to a problem that Russia creates, and then complains and rages about, when people solve it.

Another solution, other than joining NATO, would be to arm yourself to the point that you can defend yourself. That, too, Ukraine has been doing. That, too, Putin explicitly mentioned as a reason for his attack: That Ukraine having advanced weapons is completely unacceptable to him. In fact, that is one of his stated prime objectives: To 'demilitarize' Ukraine. Take out a history book and have a read... any history book, from any period. It won't take long to come across examples of what happens after a hostile power disarms your nation.

My view is not black and white. In fact, when he took Crimea, I could still see his side of it. Crimea has immense strategic value, and you could argue it was a matter of necessity. You could argue the Ukrainian government was to blame, for overplaying their hand and not reassuring him that he would have access to it. I made that argument, in his defense, back then.

But arming rebels, fomenting unrest, fueling a civil war, for years, and ultimately using the result of his own actions as justification for invading the whole country, to have his way with it as he please? That goes well and far beyond anything reasonable.

These are the actions of a man who has gone mad. Because they are not rational. Because they can lead to no good outcome, under any circumstances. Only varying shades of horrible, or worse, both for Russia and the rest of the world.

[ - ] zr855 6 points 2.3 yearsFeb 26, 2022 12:20:32 ago (+9/-3)*

The US and EU have been installing "nato" bases closer and closer to Russia. Basically by proxy, they have been building up troops as close as possible. 2014 the US, by proxy, used insurgents and "rebel" troops to install their own govt. in Ukraine. It was a "democratic" uprising. Ever since, they've been lying to young Ukranians and pretending like democracy is an actual thing they should be fighting for all the while installing their own Jews to actually run things.

Russia is just getting that shit out of their back yard and returning things the way they were.

Imagine if Russia installed military bases in Cuba with a bunch of missiles and then said we were against democracy when we removed them. Oh wait..there's precedence for that. You mean the US wouldn't want a bunch of missiles that close to the mainland. Well now let's just look at a map and see where Ukraine, Finland and Sweden are. I bet Putin wouldn't want Finland to join Nato either and have the accompanying nato troops there.

Nato and the UN are just globojew organizations. Putin saying he is getting rid of nazis is the biggest troll in a long time. He literally called jews nazis and that had the kikes FUMING. It's funny as hell.

There's another part to this and it involves the GloboJew dollar. Both the Euro and USD are globojew currencies. If Ukraine and other nations join the EU they will start using the Euro and then the globojews control even more with money they create out of thin air--truly banks create US dollars. I hope all that are reading this know that. All wars are banker wars.

Imo, EVERYONE needs to get off globojew money and start using cryptocurrency (I don't say which ones as I'm not shilling). If everyone were to start using cryptocurrency the control these globokikes have over us would instantly disappear.

Now there is a BIGGER problem though that will likely happen before 2030 and probably more like in 2 years(you can't trust their estimates) that trumps EVERYTHING. Anyone care to guess what that is? Whoever gets there first wins it all AND it's the main reason China wants Taiwan.

Edit:

People showing pictures of Putin with a bunch of kikes are spreading disinfo knowingly or not. There is zero way Putin could play the game from a starting position of total kike infiltration without making the moves and mingling as he has. It was simply impossible. Even Hitler had jewish staff and advisors. The question is are they part of the globojew group. This group, spiritually led by all the rabbis you see that are CLEARLY jewish supremacists are the ones in charge now. Anyone thinking Brother Nathanael is the problem is a nutcase. This globjew banking organization sets up places like the SPLC and ADL as authorities and they literally call us what they are. THEY ARE TRULY JEWISH SUPREMACISTS. They teach their children that we are cattle and they will own us as slaves. You guys teaching your kids that? Is that in your holy books and taught by your spiritual leaders. You can literally find interviews of these cocksuckers in Israel laughing about it and saying jews are superior--and these are random people and rabbis. They are here as well trying to get all of us to act like they do so they can point to it and claim we are what they say. Most here simply want their people (whites) to be left the fuck alone.

[ - ] localsal 1 point 2.3 yearsFeb 26, 2022 13:54:23 ago (+1/-0)

This is similar to what the kikes did during all their "wars". They needed "buffer zones" between the kikes and their neighbors, and started wars to take and occupy the land in the name of "safety".

Guess the Russians are not as high on the "victimization" scale as the kikes, and don't get international support against aggression.

Also sounds like a lot of people of Russian heritage in regions that Putin is protecting, along with the fact that Ukraine passed a law saying that people speaking Russian can't get elected? Sounds like illegal ethnic laws that limit the power of some people.

[ - ] zr855 -1 points 2.3 yearsFeb 26, 2022 15:00:36 ago (+0/-1)

with the fact that Ukraine passed a law saying that people speaking Russian can't get elected?

Fucking hypocritical ass kikes. So much for muh diversity.

[ - ] olinneserpona 0 points 2.3 yearsFeb 27, 2022 04:16:24 ago (+0/-0)

He called the Azov battalion Nazi, which they openly are. Anyone who has picked a side is a moron.

[ - ] zr855 0 points 2.3 yearsFeb 27, 2022 07:36:51 ago (+0/-0)

"Nazis" haven't existed since the end of WWII. They are Israeli larpers with guns that like to kill people for Israel--a white Isis.

[ - ] alacrity167 0 points 2.3 yearsMar 10, 2022 06:37:31 ago (+0/-0)

Anyone care to guess what that is?

What?

[ - ] zr855 0 points 2.3 yearsMar 10, 2022 12:23:32 ago (+0/-0)

Super ai. Whoever gets their first rules everyone forever, however they choose and they are far, far, far closer than they are telling us. It really could happen at any moment.

[ - ] Broc_Liath -1 points 2.3 yearsFeb 26, 2022 13:02:55 ago (+1/-2)

People showing pictures of Putin with a bunch of kikes are spreading disinfo knowingly or not. There is zero way Putin could play the game from a starting position of total kike infiltration without making the moves and mingling as he has.

Ah, so it's all 4D chess? Good to know.

I won't say the Ukranian authorities are good, but Putin is one deeply tainted mischling.

[ - ] zr855 -1 points 2.3 yearsFeb 26, 2022 13:16:49 ago (+0/-1)

4D chess characterization is kike behavior.

Start with petri dish full of kikes and just you and let's see if the microscope ever sees you not surrounded by jews. Do you understand what the Soviet Union was?

My guess is this is a useless conversation and you're just a kike purposefully spreading disinfo--and poorly.

[ - ] Broc_Liath 0 points 2.3 yearsFeb 26, 2022 18:32:09 ago (+0/-0)

Ok schlomo.

[ - ] JudyStroyer 4 points 2.3 yearsFeb 26, 2022 11:24:24 ago (+4/-0)

I have no idea how, but I'd bet anything this is because of kikes, kiking.

[ - ] OldGoat 3 points 2.3 yearsFeb 26, 2022 13:12:26 ago (+3/-0)

The coverage is just a distraction from the fact that our Western governments are killing us.

[ - ] thebearfromstartrack4 3 points 2.3 yearsFeb 26, 2022 12:11:57 ago (+3/-0)

If you stop believing anything, then nothing matters. That can be hazardous though. SOme things don't like it, when you refuse to believe in them. Like traffic.

[ - ] PostWallHelena 1 point 2.3 yearsFeb 26, 2022 14:32:41 ago (+1/-0)

Or having contempt for all the women in your race. How’s that going to work out?

[ - ] thebearfromstartrack4 0 points 2.3 yearsFeb 27, 2022 11:59:24 ago (+0/-0)

Girls are dumb, it'll work out fine. It's GOOD to know things. Contrary to popular belief.

[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 2.3 yearsFeb 27, 2022 12:30:10 ago (+0/-0)

It's GOOD to know things.

Its better to survive. Lack of reproduction will kill the white man as sure as traffic. What good are IEEE awards when you’re not smart enough to reproduce?

You have never proven yourself to be smarter than me . Why don’t you prove it? I’m obviously far better at articulating myself. But let’s see your chops.

[ - ] Incanus 2 points 2.3 yearsFeb 26, 2022 12:33:57 ago (+2/-0)

It looks like Ukraine (didn't we used to call it "The Ukraine") is basically a puppet state of the US. Seems that we got a lot of politicians using it to launder money and probably some CIA black sites and maybe even some bioweapons labs. Additionally, they are route for oil for Europe and have been making overtures to join NATO (bringing more western military power closer to Russia).

Russia sees a weak, degenerate US and smells blood in the water. They can cut off the oil route, shut down whatever shenanigans the US has going on, and reconnect with a large Russian population in the Ukraine, with basically no downside.

China meanwhile is watching. Probably waiting for the US to focus some attention before deciding how they will exploit the opportunity.

[ - ] GloryBeckons 1 point 2.3 yearsFeb 26, 2022 18:53:34 ago (+1/-0)

Ukraina means "borderland" which is why people sometimes say the Ukraine. It's a bit outdated though.

You'll find some shady labs and corrupt government dealings in literally every country if you look hard enough. That's a separate problem, and diminishing Ukraine because of it, by calling it a puppet state, implying it isn't a real country or doesn't deserve to exist, is nonsensical. You would have to conclude there are no real countries at all and we should just descend into anarchy to be logically consistent. They make deals with other countries. Some for corrupt reasons, some for actual benefit, some out of necessity. That's what countries do, and it keeps the peace because it makes them interdependent.

You're spot on about the oil/gas value and Russia sensing weakness though. It's a play for power. Putin thinks he can get away with it, so he's going for it. If he's successful, he will keep going, with Moldova as the most likely next target, then probably Finland.

[ - ] MichelleObamasPenis 0 points 2.3 yearsMar 12, 2022 17:10:29 ago (+0/-0)

If he's successful, he will keep going, with Moldova as the most likely next target, then probably Finland.

Do you have anything at all, other than hot air and made up assertions, to support your nutty statement? Anything at all?

[ - ] GloryBeckons 0 points 2.3 yearsMar 12, 2022 17:59:17 ago (+0/-0)*

Anything, anything at all. Oh, how dramatic.

Russia has already sponsored rebels in Moldova, same as in Ukraine, and defacto controls the Transnistria region: https://balkaninsight.com/2022/03/11/moldovas-rebel-region-stays-neutral-in-russias-war-on-ukraine/

During a press conference, shortly after launching the Ukraine invasion, Russia's foreign ministry threatened both Finland and Sweden with "political and military consequences" should they attempt to join NATO: https://news.yahoo.com/russia-threatens-military-political-consequences-175354322.html

The ministry then reiterated the threat on their official Twitter: https://twitter.com/mfa_russia/status/1497234734765780997

That "anything" enough for you?

None of this should be surprising to anyone who knows anything about Russia and its history. It's just another rerun of the same old story. They keep coming back to this, over and over again. They can't help themselves. It's genetic. From all the mongol horde admixture, perhaps. Just like niggers, which will always revert to their feral ways when you leave them to their own devices. Russians will stew in their inferiority complex for decades, seething over every perceived aggression and imagined slight from Europe, until one day they spaz out and set off on a mission to prove how big and bad they are.

If only they put that energy to bettering themselves, instead of destroying everything around them. But they won't. Because they can't. So they drag everyone else down, since they can't manage to lift themselves up. The essence of Communism right there.

[ - ] MichelleObamasPenis 0 points 2.3 yearsMar 13, 2022 09:20:41 ago (+0/-0)

https://balkaninsight.com/2022/03/11/moldovas-rebel-region-stays-neutral-in-russias-war-on-ukraine/

Title: "Moldova’s Rebel Region Stays Neutral in Russia’s War on Ukraine

What part of "stays neutral" are you unable to understand? In that article, which it looks like you haven't read, the one single sentence linking Russia to anything to do with Transnistria (not Moldova per se, Transnistria) is

This may change if Russia signals its intent to annex Transnistria formally.

That's it. So nothing at all there. At all. You've failed again. Jesus. Let's look at what else you've google-searched-and-pasted

https://news.yahoo.com/russia-threatens-military-political-consequences-175354322.html

Nothing at all about Moldova. Nada. Zilch. Yet another of your failures. Three in a row. Wow. Don't give up your day job.

https://twitter.com/mfa_russia/status/1497234734765780997

Nothing about Moldova. Four of your failures in a row. Hmmm, ok. Starting to see a pattern here. Possibly you are a fake piece of lying shit.

What else have you added. Let's see:

None of this should be surprising to anyone who knows anything about Russia and its history. It's just another rerun of the same old story. They keep coming back to this, over and over again. They can't help themselves. It's genetic. From all the mongol horde admixture, perhaps. Just like niggers, which will always revert to their feral ways when you leave them to their own devices. Russians will stew in their inferiority complex for decades, seething over every perceived aggression and imagined slight from Europe, until one day they spaz out and set off on a mission to prove how big and bad they are.

If only they put that energy to bettering themselves, instead of destroying everything around them. But they won't. Because they can't. So they drag everyone else down, since they can't manage to lift themselves up. The essence of Communism right there.

Well, that's your five-failures-in-a-row right there. Jesus. You spurt made-up bullshit, are asked for some evidence - something obviously foreign to you - and you just spurt bullshit. Check this out:

anyone who knows anything about Russia and its history

Ha, OK.

They can't help themselves. It's genetic. From all the mongol horde admixture, perhaps. Just like niggers,

Going strong there. Is it your nap time yet?

seething over every perceived aggression and imagined slight from Europe,

You've saved your strong points for last, I see ( /s)

[ - ] GloryBeckons 0 points 2.3 yearsMar 13, 2022 11:06:35 ago (+0/-0)

Hit a nerve, did I? Aww, poor thing. Nothing stings quite as much as the truth.

not Moldova per se, Transnistria

Transnistria is IN Moldova, "per se". You silly mongoloid.

Nothing at all about Moldova. Nada. Zilch.

Nothing about Moldova in links that aren't about Moldova, but about Finland being next. Wow. Good job, Sherlock.

[ - ] MichelleObamasPenis 0 points 2.3 yearsMar 13, 2022 11:38:17 ago (+0/-0)

Transnistria is IN Moldova,

You are an imbecile. It's a separatist region. Some moron . . .oh, you! . . .claimed that Russia was going to invade Moldova. And then it was asked by someone . . . me! . . . for any evidence.

[ - ] Loves2smootch 2 points 2.3 yearsFeb 26, 2022 12:11:24 ago (+2/-0)

Its about Jews killing Europeans. Did you see how that Jew Zelensky is calling Europeans to come to Ukraine to fight against Russians? After he dismissed all Jews from Ukraine and ordered Ukrainians that they must stay and fight? This whole thing is about Jews killing White people by tricking them to fight against each other.

[ - ] Teefinyomouf 0 points 2.3 yearsFeb 26, 2022 13:56:53 ago (+0/-0)

Duh jews.

Do you understand that in state v. state there's never a good guy? (NatSoc idiots don't obviously since duh NatSoc). USA is evil. Putin is evil. Evil USA is preventing evil peaceful alliance between Germany and Russia because then evil Russia would dominate Europe and there would be war just elsewhere. Which evil is preferable? Depends on where you invest. That's it. Don't be a moron.

[ - ] albatrosv15 1 point 2.3 yearsFeb 26, 2022 15:28:20 ago (+1/-0)

Just a distraction, so that everyones lives can be even moooaaar automated. Oh and MOOAAR immigrants into europe.

[ - ] Boardallday_420_2 1 point 2.3 yearsFeb 26, 2022 15:03:23 ago (+1/-0)

The current Ukranian president is a kike puppet of the globalist liberal establishment and Russia made it clear their intentions if Ukraine didn't stay neutral. I don't know what NATO (including the globalist liberal establishment) expected other than this.

Almost seems like they don't give a fuck at all and actually like what is going on? 🤔

This video does a good job explaining the other strategic reasons why Russia is taking back Ukraine. https://youtu.be/If61baWF4GE

[ - ] rhy 1 point 2.3 yearsFeb 26, 2022 13:28:40 ago (+1/-0)

[ - ] letsgetit 1 point 2.3 yearsFeb 26, 2022 12:25:08 ago (+1/-0)

There are a number of US ran biolabs in Ukraine, along with all the other corrupt politicians meddling in Ukraine, I'm inclined to think there's a fuckton of corruption Putin wants to wipe clean.

[ - ] IwuvU 1 point 2.3 yearsFeb 26, 2022 12:23:57 ago (+1/-0)

Ukraine was spreading disinformation on covid-19 and refused to wear masks so Russia peacefully migrated into Ukraine to vaccinate them.

[ - ] UncleDoug 0 points 2.3 yearsFeb 26, 2022 22:13:12 ago (+0/-0)

2013 gas supply piepline

Tukrstream pipeline Issues with Turkey blocking Balkans route.

Ukraine is also a breadbasket for Europe.

Canal Istanbul, parallel to Bosphorous canal to circumvent Bosphorous agreement with American investment.
Allows American warhsips of certain tonnage into Black Sea ports

Hence RussianFederation funding insurgency groups in key areas such as Luhansk , Donetsk and annexed Crimean peninsular to protect trade and borders from possible aggression including security for Black Sea.

NATO bases around Russia
Proposing Ukraine membership circumvents VETO power by allowing admission of Ukraine to become a member state and create Military bases there as well.

[ - ] Boyakasha 0 points 2.3 yearsFeb 26, 2022 16:47:22 ago (+0/-0)

Paid shill here: Russia bad because Trump and the January 6th coup attempt by literally dozens of unarmed protestors. Ukraine is innocent victim of Russian aggression. Totes no illegal deep state money laundering or deep state fuckery in progress. Trust the plan and all hail Israel; our greatest ally.

[ - ] M80TheMan 0 points 2.3 yearsFeb 26, 2022 16:36:43 ago (+0/-0)

jews using whites to kill each other for their own personal gain. Nothing new. The details are a distraction away from white genocide.

[ - ] GeneralDisarray 0 points 2.3 yearsFeb 26, 2022 16:25:55 ago (+0/-0)

This is all about Israel! That's why the Jews have left the country already.

The human trafficking, genocide, gangstalking, money laundering and racketeering all lead back to Israel, UK and NATO.

When this is all exposed Israel will get fucked up and they know it. They know a massive backlash is about to occur so they pulled all the Jews out before they are lynched.

The USA and Russian navies are very close together and are within striking distance of Israel. The real target of this joint operation.

All israel can do now is wait for the news to drop that they attacked the whole world and await the retaliation or fire a missile at a USA ship and frame Russia. But they have done this shit before and will probably get caught red handed.

The cabal pedos know if the secrets of the Ukraine get exposed they are fucked. That's why everyone is speaking up for Zelinsky. They don't want their industrial scale child trafficking exposed.

NATO will be destroyed by the revelation they have been gangstalking their own civilians.

And Israel has its blood stained hands in it all!!!

Shit is about to hit the fan. The news is all lies. They are gatekeeping for the child traffickers and gangstalkers.

I don't think the Israelis have figured it out yet that the USA and Russia are conducting a joint operation aimed at exposing them to justify invading Israel and grabbing the head pedos.

So next up is an Israeli attack on the US navy imho.

This should happen very soon.

[ - ] MichelleObamasPenis 1 point 2.3 yearsMar 12, 2022 17:17:07 ago (+1/-0)

. . .within striking distance of Israel. The real target of this joint operation.

A completely novel and very interesting opinion, so a great thought.

On behalf of the other readers here I do have to say, though, that while a number of your facts are simply true, your conclusion is only a hypothesis that fits the facts - which is great - but that's kinda it. Your conclusion is a non sequitur: many other conclusions could be drawn from these facts.

[ - ] WanderingToast 0 points 2.3 yearsFeb 26, 2022 15:45:34 ago (+0/-0)

It's a personal vendetta between Putin and Biden / Obama

[ - ] DanielR 0 points 2.3 yearsFeb 26, 2022 15:27:39 ago (+0/-0)

(((NATO))) puts missiles in Ukraine to attack Russia.
Russia says "stop it nigga" for 6 years.
Russia gets tired of (((NATO)))'s shit and invades.

[ - ] Swej_Ehtsag 0 points 2.3 yearsFeb 26, 2022 15:10:20 ago (+0/-0)

Trucker protest and upcoming protests were getting to serious so they created this distraction.

[ - ] Ironcrusader88 0 points 2.3 yearsFeb 26, 2022 14:56:18 ago (+0/-0)

It’s basically two factions of jewish elites fighting for control of the world at this point. Putin is a Jew from his mother’s side and is friends with Klaus Schwab from the WEF that’s pushing the great reset. They essentially used the Frankfurt school to weaken the west with cultural Marxism to destroy it from the inside and when the the west is weak the sino-Soviet forces will invade and create the NWO and have Israel be the leader of the world. All what you see on the news is just political theater for kike profits to scare the goyim into subservience. The only group that loses in a conflict between Ukraine and Russia is the White race. No more brother wars and no more listening to Jewish lies.

[ - ] HeyJames 0 points 2.3 yearsFeb 26, 2022 14:37:53 ago (+0/-0)

There's a rumor going around that Russian oil fields are dropping rapidly or becoming cost prohibitive. My theory is that they want Ukraines resources.

Either that or they really do want to just teach the west a lesson in getting involved in Eastern Slavic affairs.

My money's on the former though.

[ - ] Teefinyomouf 0 points 2.3 yearsFeb 26, 2022 13:53:14 ago (+0/-0)

Germany and Russia were getting too friendly. Too much peaceful trade. The Nordstream pipeline was to open soon. This was an existential threat to NATO aka US force projection in Europe. If there's peace in Europe then there's no need for US military bases over there. Russia/Germany and China may then go off the USD and fuck our economy bad. It's not good to have Russia in control either.

So it's better for US interests to have war in Europe.

This depends on Germany. If the people get sick of high energy prices and point the finger at the US we may lose more than dominance. OTOH losing dominance with Russia and China may be equivalent to losing everything anyway. There is no good guy here. Don't be naive and think there is.

[ - ] Broc_Liath 0 points 2.3 yearsFeb 26, 2022 13:01:21 ago (+0/-0)

Russia has enormous natural resources but is cut off from workable trade routes for them, so she's always been at the mercy of her neighbours when it comes to trade. One particular very long term Russian project is securing a deep-water port on the black sea. They've been trying to make the Crimea part of Russia since the 18th century.

More recently, there was the soviet collapse and fragmentation. One of the states to split off was the Ukraine. They took Crimea with them but they remained part of the Russian axis and generally played nice. Then globohomo decided "gibsmedat" and orchestrated a coup bringing the Ukraine into the EU sphere of influence, installing a jewish head of state and potentially cutting off Russia from easy access to global markets.

So the Russians instigated a countercoup and installed their own puppet regime in the crimean peninsula. Then they started trying to do the same in Donetsk, which is basically the eastern third of the Ukraine between Russia and Crimea. Donetsk was historically Ukranian (along with the Crimea) but Russia has been aggressively settling it with ethnic Russians since Potemkin. Think like the way Israel gradually expands into Palestine, they stir up shit, drive off the natives and install their own people, then gradually it becomes their "homeland."

Now all of that is coming to a head. Globohomo needs something to take over from the rapidly exiting covaids crisis/trucker protest and they don't really give a shit about the Ukraine, so they're stirring the pot. All the jews got shipped out and the gentiles are being left with the fight.

On the other side of things, the people doing the actual fighting in the Ukraine and pointing the guns seem to be anti-globohomo ethno-nationalists, so if they win... who knows what happens. Maybe the jews get to stick around, maybe not. If it were my country I'd rather have a puppet jewish regime with all the armed men being far right whites than a puppet jewish regime actively "denazifying" the country.

[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 2.3 yearsFeb 27, 2022 12:47:28 ago (+0/-0)

You are really a trove. You must be studying something related to this shit. Your analysis has been really superb on other occassions as well — a bit better than I’m used to around here. Pardon my shameless ass kissing.

[ - ] Broc_Liath 0 points 2.3 yearsFeb 27, 2022 14:13:56 ago (+0/-0)

Huh, thanks. High praise coming from yourself imo.

Nope, I study computer stuff, history is just a hobby. It's worth looking this stuff up on a map though. Despite her massive coastline all of Russia's trade has to go through a few narrow chokepoints. I can see why they'd be nervous about one of them being fucked with, even if I recognise the crimea is morally ukranian.

[ - ] Stonkmar 0 points 2.3 yearsFeb 26, 2022 12:52:37 ago (+0/-0)

The one thing I've noticed, all media outlets are going out of their way to talk about Russia invading, but they barely mention the reason why. On only one report, they wedged in a weak reason that Ukraine were working on nuclear weapons and that's the reason for the attack...

[ - ] ForgottenMemes 0 points 2.3 yearsFeb 26, 2022 12:45:32 ago (+0/-0)

Ukraine is an international hub of jewery. Consider the location, you can funnel drugs, niggers and terrorism into both russia and europe. You can funnel money, goyim sex slaves and whatever other loot out by sea to isreal or wherever else.

Russian jews are mad that unkrainian jews are jewing with western jews instead of with them. They want their kids to have the no-show jobs at burisma that jews like Pelsoi and Biden have. There are a million such scams going on in ukraine and the ruskie kikes are being left out. There is money to steal, culture to subvert and caucasians to rape and murder.

[ - ] RedBarchetta 0 points 2.3 yearsFeb 26, 2022 12:28:49 ago (+0/-0)

https://youtu.be/nK-yJD_fAtk
Pretty good explanation. Watch it all, it will make sense.

[ - ] lurker 0 points 2.3 yearsFeb 26, 2022 12:04:50 ago (+0/-0)

With war there is always some back door business deals going on. I've noticed that Russians sold the Ukraine every piece of Ukrainian equipment that I've looked up so far after the Russians blew it up. There is the obvious connection with Hunter Biden and the Ukraine business deals he was making on behalf of his father but considering that was big news on the RIGHT it may be propaganda as well for all I know.

Let's not forget that Ukraine did elect a Jewish comedian to lead this battle and that election is of questionable integrity. This line of thinking involving fraudulent elections also lines up with popular RIGHT side propaganda in the United States so it must be questioned as well.

Perhaps Russia is planing furthering it's interests westward? They already have access to the Black Sea but maybe they want more real estate? They still face a choking point leaving the Black Sea and another leaving Gibraltar. I don't think their ambitions lie beyond the Mediterranean in this instance, not trying to downplay their capabilities or anything but battling with Gibraltar for passage means they will have fully kicked the hornet's nest just to get in the Atlantic. In this case I confidently say that their ambitions would lie in the Mediterranean be it hitting Europe from the sea or perhaps even the puppet masters homeland. I was leaning towards the Europe option here but I keep seeing propaganda about Golan Heights in the past few days.

Frankly I just don't have enough information beyond the American accessible propaganda as the information war is being waged. Rather convenient that "Anonymous" is DDOS ing Rt.com right? It's just about a convenient as the "ghost of keiv" (and it's newspeak alternative kyev) Like there isn't a bunch of NATO and US refueling aircraft running back and forth near the boarder, what are they refueling?

Anyone who claims to know exactly what is going on is a fool or a liar and should be treated as such.

[ - ] Teefinyomouf 1 point 2.3 yearsFeb 26, 2022 14:29:22 ago (+1/-0)

The Crimea vote to become Russian was fake. So was the vote to elect the Jew. All elections are fake now.

[ - ] 3Whuurs 0 points 2.3 yearsFeb 26, 2022 11:56:49 ago (+0/-0)

It’s a Cuban missile crisis.
That’s all.

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[ - ] zr855 0 points 2.3 yearsFeb 26, 2022 12:58:15 ago (+0/-0)

yep

[ - ] qwop 1 point 2.3 yearsFeb 26, 2022 17:25:54 ago (+1/-0)

Putin's first presidency was 1999 when Yeltsin resigned. The WEF Young Global Leaders program was established in 2004.

The only references to WEF from Putin I can find, is that he says he was visiting Davos since 1992. Quote from a speech by Putin last year:

"I have been to Davos many times, attending the events organized by Mr. Schwab, even back in the 1990s. Klaus just recalled that we met in 1992. Indeed, during my time in St Petersburg, I visited this important forum many times. I would like to thank you for this opportunity today to convey my point of view to the expert community that gathers at this world-renowned platform thanks to the efforts of Mr. Schwab."

So he visited Davos, but was he groomed by Schwab, or just mingling with the Davos crowd in general? These are two different things.

There is no other mention of Putin and WEF in any other context, except the clip where Schwab is bragging everyone is in his pocket.

Now from this clip of Schwab, people assumed Putin was groomed. I'm just saying we do not know that. This was an assumption that was made because Schwab made his sweeping statement. At least we can be sure he was not in the YGL program, as he was already going for presidency in 1999 long before YGL was established.

I personally don't think Putin is 100% on board with WEF, like the rest of the leftist puppets in the west. But what do I know. I'm just a clueless goy. Just thinking out loud here.

[ - ] M80TheMan 0 points 2.3 yearsFeb 26, 2022 16:42:45 ago (+1/-1)

https://files.catbox.moe/v81l5x.jpeg

Lol. Get fucked, nigger.

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[ - ] M80TheMan 1 point 2.3 yearsFeb 26, 2022 17:04:52 ago (+1/-0)

Yep. He capitulates to jews. He’s ZOG. You’re a dumb fuckin nigger.

[ - ] ForgottenMemes -1 points 2.3 yearsFeb 26, 2022 12:11:37 ago (+0/-1)

Putin is a jew, installed by jews, backed by jews, working to enrich jews.

[ - ] ItalianoCelticMutt 2 points 2.3 yearsFeb 26, 2022 12:24:40 ago (+2/-0)

But prevented jews from taking over Syria.....

[ - ] ForgottenMemes 0 points 2.3 yearsFeb 26, 2022 12:46:57 ago (+1/-1)

They still have golan and his russian jews have an interest in pipelines from syria. Jews aren't a monolith, their gangs often war.

[ - ] zr855 0 points 2.3 yearsFeb 26, 2022 12:54:24 ago (+0/-0)

Jews aren't a monolith

I wouldn't say that. They are definitely mixed in everywhere though. You don't go from total jew occupation of the Soviet Union to a Russia with little globojew interference overnight.

[ - ] mikenigger -3 points 2.3 yearsFeb 26, 2022 11:06:26 ago (+2/-5)

go spread your russian talking points somewhere else you pedo shithead

[ - ] Youdgetfuckedfaggot -1 points 2.3 yearsFeb 26, 2022 12:11:10 ago (+0/-1)

go suck off your dad

[ - ] UndercoverGoyim -1 points 2.3 yearsFeb 26, 2022 12:40:24 ago (+0/-1)

Ok Shlomo

[ - ] mikenigger 1 point 2.3 yearsFeb 26, 2022 12:42:02 ago (+1/-0)

FuckVoat is a confirmed pedo, retards

[ - ] mikenigger -3 points 2.3 yearsFeb 26, 2022 10:31:01 ago (+2/-5)*

Trying to project your beliefs onto the real world will never not make you look like a retarded boomer, read a book or something, these kind of invasions are Russia's MO: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundations_of_Geopolitics

edit: the downvoting boomers are welcome to challenge me anytime on this