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What's voats thoughts on Agile?

submitted by ModernGuilt to AskUpgoat 2.2 yearsFeb 16, 2022 08:11:40 ago (+5/-0)     (AskUpgoat)

My only experience is with female managers cargo culting like they're in charge of Facebook and it always turns into a complete disorganized farce.

I'm sure its like communism, we just haven't done it RIGHT yet


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[ - ] Master_Foo 6 points 2.2 yearsFeb 16, 2022 08:51:46 ago (+6/-0)

Fire the female "manager".
Agile only works when the people in charge are competent.
Rule of thumb: The person who knows how to do it is the person in charge. Anyone who can't needs to step aside.

[ - ] deleted 4 points 2.2 yearsFeb 16, 2022 09:32:25 ago (+4/-0)*

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[ - ] pickingrinninspittin 1 point 2.2 yearsFeb 16, 2022 14:09:08 ago (+1/-0)

"niggers dont code." Ha! how true. Chicks too.

Having said that one of the better business analysts/coders I ever worked with was a nigger. The exception that proves the rule. But I've never seen a female coder, outside of academia, that wasn't better off on the help desk.

[ - ] noonefromnowhere 4 points 2.2 yearsFeb 16, 2022 09:26:30 ago (+4/-0)

Sounds like a bunch of buzzword-laden bullshit.

[ - ] deleted 5 points 2.2 yearsFeb 16, 2022 09:41:25 ago (+5/-0)

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[ - ] giantprick 0 points 2.2 yearsFeb 18, 2022 06:50:19 ago (+0/-0)

It's one of those things that you hear a lot about but realize it actually isn't really a thing

[ - ] Broc_Liath 1 point 2.2 yearsFeb 16, 2022 10:47:20 ago (+1/-0)

Sounds like a problem with the manager rather than a problem with the development model.

Personally I'm more inclined to use waterfall like the caveman that I am.

[ - ] beece 1 point 2.2 yearsFeb 16, 2022 08:19:19 ago (+1/-0)

[ - ] MaryXmas 0 points 2.2 yearsFeb 16, 2022 20:01:36 ago (+0/-0)

I was at a company that did it right. It was a lot of pressure to deliver. The code had to ship or you lost your weekend making it up.

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[ - ] deleted 0 points 2.2 yearsFeb 16, 2022 12:43:11 ago (+0/-0)

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[ - ] AugustineOfHippo2 0 points 2.2 yearsFeb 16, 2022 10:56:28 ago (+0/-0)

there are a few types of people in Agile:

1.
the kind where people don't really know what it is, but like use the buzzwords like sprint, scrum, kanban, standup, etc.

2.
the cultish "Agile is EVERYTHING" and you are NOTHING if you don't do Agile.

3.
people who are familiar with it, and find it a useful tool in some situations.


Agile is OK, but most teams I know of use waterfall to get the first working version, then switch to agile for updates and maintenance.

HERE is a good representation of the Agile methodology.

The main problem I have with Agile is that if it isn't done perfectly, the concept of "constant change" tends to produce a Rube Goldberg kludge of garbage that could have been avoided with some proper planning prior to the project. Many people use Agile and constant change to avoid the work of planning something out, and just try to wing it as they go cause "constant change".

Another problem is that, to be done properly, you really need a lot of trained people, which means it doesn't work too well with small (i.e. 2 or 3 people) teams.

[ - ] Wahaha 0 points 2.2 yearsFeb 16, 2022 10:45:39 ago (+0/-0)

I can't really say anything good about agile, other than that it is better than what preceded it.

[ - ] deleted 0 points 2.2 yearsFeb 16, 2022 09:43:53 ago (+0/-0)*

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[ - ] Broc_Liath 1 point 2.2 yearsFeb 16, 2022 10:49:53 ago (+1/-0)

and only knew c#, not c++, not c, just C#

Was it a job that required C or C++?

I turn to him and say to my revered elder... "do you mean the pre-processor directive include?"

I mean... sure, but did you really not know what he meant? I just call them include statements or includes. No one has ever been confused by it.

[ - ] deleted 1 point 2.2 yearsFeb 16, 2022 12:07:02 ago (+1/-0)*

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[ - ] bobdole9 1 point 2.2 yearsFeb 16, 2022 16:12:02 ago (+1/-0)

@Broc_Liath

Remember the first rule of Fight Club.

[ - ] Broc_Liath 0 points 2.2 yearsFeb 16, 2022 12:55:16 ago (+0/-0)

Specifically I was tearing out 30+ years of insecure C++ memory allocations.

She was my 'supervisor'. She contributed nothing but stress.

Oh my gods... c# does it's own memory management and garbage collection. She couldn't have understood anything you were doing.

I once held in my hand the flowchart (with local ips) that showed the path transactions take when syncing with the big "central banking service", not just normie accounts, but huge international transactions, I did not have access to any of those systems up the line, but to not just believe in the system but to see the door to the server where I knew the whole world was held in bondage, to have the address, to know it was real and where it was and how it could potentially be accessed was a trippy moment. Now dont get me wrong, I have no illusions about whether I would have gotten away with even pinging it, much less extracting a single penny, if I would have looked at it wrong they would have thrown me in jail. But still... there it was.. Goliath

Man, I feel you. Sometimes I dream about what would be possible if I knew the locations of all those servers and data centers. With the right list of addresses a small group of men could bring the NWO to it's knees in hours.