Engage with the ideas of philosophers, not the philosophers themselves, engage with each part of their ideas independently, and not just as a whole, if you find an idea that you think doesn't work, try to make changes to it do that it does work, rather than lazily chucking the whole thing out. - Upgoat

Engage with the ideas of philosophers, not the philosophers themselves, engage with each part of their ideas independently, and not just as a whole, if you find an idea that you think doesn't work, try to make changes to it do that it does work, rather than lazily chucking the whole thing out.
submitted by Paradoxical003 to whatever 3.2 yearsFeb 9, 2022 09:10:47 ago (+19/-0) (whatever)

The greatest of tragedies in most people's educations is that they lack the lessons in philosophy to know how to think, how to examine, analyze, criticize, alter, improve upon, and combine ideas from disparate sources.
The ignorance of the philosophical method is much more tragic than the ignorance of the scientific method, which is itself far more of a tragedy than the ignorance of civics and the engineering of political system designs, which is a massive tragedy in itself.
So much needs to be changed in the common mind, a good future requires a new generation that can think, learn, argue, concur, and contribute to concepts and ideas, while thoroughly engaging with the existing ones they immerse themselves in.

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[ - ] i_scream_trucks 0 points 3.2 yearsFeb 9, 2022 09:13:46 ago (+0/-0)

if a philosophers idea is fucking retarded to begin with why waste brain power engaging either.

big difference between laziness and energy efficiency.

being a flat out fucking liar and pretending to be a 'philosopher' is a whole other ball game entirely.

[ - ] HelpAcct123 2 points 3.2 yearsFeb 9, 2022 09:26:45 ago (+2/-0)

It kills me to have a conversation about something and the other person attacks the source and not the argument. Or they want a "study" which are becoming in reading lyrics unreliable for political reasons.

Carl Sagan on the Fine Art of Baloney Detection
http://hermiene.net/essays-trans/fine_art_of_baloney_detection.html

[ - ] NastyNancy 0 points 3.2 yearsFeb 9, 2022 10:33:05 ago (+0/-0)

Philosophy is a waste of time.

[ + ] 3Whuurs

[ - ] 3Whuurs 0 points 3.2 yearsFeb 9, 2022 13:04:43 ago (+0/-0)

There would have been no enlightenment without philosophy.

[ + ] wolfe

[ - ] wolfe 0 points 3.2 yearsFeb 9, 2022 18:39:38 ago (+0/-0)

There would be no civilisation without philosophy, the alternative is religion. Philosophy was born only once--in Ancient Greece. The nations that didn't buy into it are still shitholes today.

[ - ] Zyklonbeekeeper 0 points 3.2 yearsFeb 9, 2022 13:27:51 ago (+0/-0)

There's great power in ambiguity....

[ + ] Paradoxical003

[ - ] Paradoxical003 [op] 0 points 3.2 yearsFeb 9, 2022 15:26:45 ago (+0/-0)

Philosophy is about cutting down in ambiguity.

It's all about why you believe what you do.

The claims themselves are nothing, the reasons for the claims are everything.

That's why the philosophical method is so important.

[ - ] yesiknow 0 points 3.2 yearsFeb 9, 2022 14:44:19 ago (+0/-0)

Amen. THat's really fucked them up badly.

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