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I agree with him. These women have everything and what do they want more?

submitted by deleted to OLDbutGOLD 3.3 yearsFeb 8, 2022 18:48:24 ago (+27/-2)     (OLDbutGOLD)

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[ - ] allahead 6 points 3.3 yearsFeb 8, 2022 19:30:51 ago (+6/-0)

The type of dishonest argument she's using is called the Motte and Bailey fallacy. jews and other liars use it all the time, possibly instinctively.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motte-and-bailey_fallacy

https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=motte+and+baily+fallacy&ia=web

Sam Harris Hides Behind The Motte and Bailey Defense
https://files.catbox.moe/lwgk1z.webm

[ - ] Wuwei 2 points 3.3 yearsFeb 8, 2022 21:18:53 ago (+2/-0)

I don't particularly like any of the Intellectual Dark Web people but I do recognize their contributions: Peterson - Bringing a deeper religious meaning to the masses, Bret - Standing up to the Covid narrative, Somers - Her rational counter-feminist narratives, etc. For the life of me I've never figured out why Sam Harris is famous. I've never learned a single thing from him. Even Zionist Shapiro is good for crushing college retards. Of the 4 atheists Dawkins wrote great books and Hitchens was witty af. Harris got in an argument with Chomsky where Chomsky's point went straight over his head. Harris is a total con man. Even his understanding of Buddhism is weak

[ - ] allahead 0 points 3.3 yearsFeb 8, 2022 22:03:35 ago (+0/-0)

They are all limited hangout mid-wits. Their sole purpose is to attract people who are trying to think their way out of this miasma called Earth and trap them in a web of intellectual dishonesty so they can't actualize a winning strategy.

The "Intellectual Dark Web" will never name the source of the problem, because they don't want their listeners to solve anything. They're just another form of control.

[ - ] Nagasaki 0 points 3.3 yearsFeb 9, 2022 01:38:52 ago (+1/-1)*

I hear you support naming the source as "jews". I think they play a central role here, but my life has brought me to believe that satan literally exists. The Quran says that satan is a member of a different species of creatures made by God from "fire without smoke". I think somewhere on this Earth is satan. He is not divine nor does he know other than what he perceives around him. I genuinely believe that this the ultimate source of the problem, and the puppeteer behind the satanic jewish behavior of Western ownership. Further, the Quran is the ultimate solution to understanding this world. If you admit that the nefarious nature of these jews and their defiance of God is literally religious in nature, many other aspects of life begin to click.

[ - ] allahead 2 points 3.3 yearsFeb 9, 2022 11:07:51 ago (+2/-0)

jews are literally Satan's army. I have no doubt he's here. I don't know where Satan is, I do know where the jews are. It's easier to show people what bankers are doing than to convince them that Satan guides jews' actions.

Many jews admit to worshiping Satan or to have worshiped him before leaving judaism.

I've read part of the Quran, wasn't impressed. I'm also not impressed by Muslims robbing, raping, enslaving, and murdering my people for almost 1400 years. I don't believe the Quran is divinely inspired, it's whatever Mohamed needed for himself at the time. Even he admitted that he didn't know if he was "hearing" God or evil spirits. Islam is war tactics dressed up as a religion. Praying 5 times a day is a form of brainwashing. Killing people who try to leave, or who refuse to join, so peaceful. Why don't Muslims kill more jews?

[ - ] allahead 0 points 3.3 yearsFeb 9, 2022 11:09:54 ago (+0/-0)

Have you studied the Sabbatean-Frankists? What do you think of them?

[ - ] GeneralDisarray 1 point 3.3 yearsFeb 8, 2022 20:54:55 ago (+1/-0)

Great share, thanks!

I will be studying this tonight.

[ - ] the_noticer 2 points 3.3 yearsFeb 9, 2022 05:01:30 ago (+2/-0)

they want to destroy society because the big-nosed goblin on the TV convinced them they are getting a bad deal

[ - ] PostWallHelena 2 points 3.3 yearsFeb 8, 2022 20:16:52 ago (+3/-1)

They want equal wealth but they don’t deserve it and they don’t understand why.

When primitive homo sapiens lived in the tropics women gathered most of their own food from plant sources. Men occassionally hunted and shared with their moms/sisters and maybe chicks they wanted to fuck. Men spent most of their time killing each other off to steal each others women. They did not support their own kids and they didn’t marry. They just lived with mom and fucked hos.

As eurasians migrated to cold climates, women couldn’t support themselves on plant food. Males became more heavily relied on for meat. They gave up murdering each other and fucking hos to hunt full time . They demanded sexual fidelity from women which led to patrilineal marriage. Males then began to compete for wealth production rather than being the best murderer and ho fucker.

Men evolved to produce wealth (non-niggers anyway), to get chicks. Women evolved other traits to get guys. Working hard and being clever efficient wealth producers was never really in women’s bag o tricks. Its retarded to expect women are producing equal levels of wealth.

White males and chinky males produce 80 percent of the wealth in the world, they just don’t get to keep it. Weve created alot of bullshit jobs of questionable utility in government and other bureaucracies, jobs for which the work procucts value is highly subjective. We give these jobs to women and niggers and jews and we pay high salaries for them and these fake workers imagine they are actually generating $80,000 of wealth annually but the aren’t.

This is economic misinformation disseminated by jews and other work shy con-men. They can feign equality when there are no objective measures for the goodness of your work. But jobs that take high levels of skill and dedication are jobs in which white men will totally outperform women on average.

There are exceptions. There are women that are highly productive and there are sectors where women’s strengths are useful. But many women like this twit live in an economic fairy land where there are no dividends for competance, no consequences for failure. And in that informational vacuum, they imagine themselves to be some sort of career version of Captain Marvel, kicking ass and taking names— but oh so undervalued. But they do not produce useful work.

Women have another function that they are better at than men, and men need them. That is how they can acquire wealth and deserve it. Raising kids. Not glamorous but necessary. This is all due to ignorance about evolution. This chick is pig ignorant about how males and females have behaved for a billion years. The rules that govern the behavior of fertilizers and egg layers continues to apply.

[ - ] account deleted by user [op] 2 points 3.3 yearsFeb 8, 2022 19:03:54 ago (+3/-1)

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[ - ] Qwertytoal 0 points 3.3 yearsFeb 9, 2022 10:00:34 ago (+0/-0)

I thought I read somewhere that men were more sexuallt abused then women, but didn't report

[ - ] GeneralDisarray 0 points 3.3 yearsFeb 8, 2022 19:10:19 ago (+2/-2)

Women rape just as much as men!

But men don't have a free pass for it.

This guy is a fucking cuck for agreeing with these lies.

Women have all the rape services to themselves. Including all victims services. They protest any men's shelters being built because they are narcissistic cunts of the lowest order.

[ - ] PostWallHelena 1 point 3.3 yearsFeb 8, 2022 19:18:36 ago (+4/-3)

Women do not rape as much as men. You are really living in a mgtow fantasy at this point.

[ - ] account deleted by user [op] 2 points 3.3 yearsFeb 8, 2022 19:24:31 ago (+2/-0)

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[ - ] Vrbllpollushin 2 points 3.3 yearsFeb 8, 2022 20:01:07 ago (+2/-0)

You certainly have a thing against mgtow, don't you? You asked me the other day what part of the philosophy I don't subscribe to. I don't subscribe to the portion that "I go."
I don't think you understand why mgtow is a lifestyle choice. You espouse all of the talking points, but the reality is, that white men today are a minority with the whole world against them. Yes, I know, all women are not like that. Neither or all men. Your claim that men rape women more than men is based on what? Stats from the government? Please. What is being classified as rape?
You talk out of both sides of your mouth. You claim at times to be about saving your race, and other times you sound like a fucking feminist. You can't claim both. Which is it, then?

[ - ] GeneralDisarray 0 points 3.3 yearsFeb 8, 2022 20:51:59 ago (+0/-0)

Well said fren!

[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 3.3 yearsFeb 8, 2022 21:36:18 ago (+0/-0)

Do I have something against mgtow? Of course, as I said, it is incompatible with the 14 words. Incompatible.

I don't think you understand why mgtow is a lifestyle choice

Yeah i do. But like other lifestyle choices, like being a dyke feminist, its the wrong choice. We should never ever be encouraging men or women not to marry and have families.

If an orthodox jew starts going around to the other orthodox jews and trying to convince them not to marry and have families, they will get thrown out. Because the rabbis’ number one priority is to promote the jewish race. We should be more like jews on this particular point.

Men Go their own way.

Its all in the title. You can try to pretend that their agenda isn’t to convince men that women are evil and should be fucked like whores and then discarded, but that is the very essence of the movement. Never marry— hoard your shekels and live selfishly and alone by the bro code, lest you get divorce raped. Im sorry but I don’t support that. That is a scenario in which jews win.

white men today are a minority with the whole world against them.

I know. Im very sympathetic. White men are absolutely being enslaved and stolen from. White women are one of the beneficiaries of this economic dysfunction.

Your claim that men rape women more than men is based on what? Stats from the government?

Yeah and all of history and all of my fucking experience as a human being and the physical limitations of women to commit rape and a near total lack of motive biologically speaking. Rape is a useful reproductive strategy for males and not for females. I don’t want to spend paragraphs explaining why it just doesnt make sense from an evolutionary point of view for women to rape even if they could accomplish it by waylaying or drugging men or something. I don’t think all men are rapists but 99% of all forced sex is by men. At least. Men have very little to lose by raping a woman, biologically. All the biological risk is taken by the woman in reproduction. Females sink the greatest amount of resources in to reproduction and that is a disincentive for rape. Women are less libidinous and more choosey because they stand to lose the most in reproduction.

You claim at times to be about saving your race, and other times you sound like a fucking feminist.

No I don’t. Pushing back on the feminist narrative does not require being a mirror image of a feminist by demonizing all women as whores, or stupid, or greedy. There are several people here who promote that propaganda every damn day. It is sick and it is a lie. It is harmful to whites. Im sorry I dont agree that women are giant children that dont deserve to have any rights and have no morals and need to be punished. Did you see me pushing back on people saying that women need to suffer and have it coming to them and need payback. You bet.

Did you ever see me anywhere saying that white men are inherently stupid or arrogant or need to be punished or stolen from? Did you ever see me say white women should divorce white men or not marry them?

Do not demonize and degrade all women. This is all I say. If someone says “only white women are stupid/greedy/complicit with jews, only white women have betrayed our race....”, I give examples to the contrary. I do not believe men should have total political and financial power because I believe men are as corruptible as women. I believe white elite males (in collaboration with jews) have opted to fuck over white working class males for shekels, and they are pandering to white women through the government and other bureacracies. So I don’t think this is a crisis solely due to white women, and white male elites have also stuck it to us. They are not all jews.

I don’t care to spend a lot of time blaming white men for our circumstances, because mostly they are getting disproportionally fucked. But when these dudes trying to stir up hatred toward white women with their simplistic and degenerate narrative that all women are hos that ride black cock 365 days out of the year, I will point out reality: that white men are not lily white and are not inherently more virtuous.

I would love not to have these arguments. Unfortunately there is a need for me to counter these lies so I will continue to do so when I see them.

[ - ] Vrbllpollushin 0 points 3.3 yearsFeb 8, 2022 21:54:43 ago (+0/-0)

I have to admit, your rebuttals are long, and well written. Alas, I am mobile, and can/will not address each bullet point you have made..but I will say this;
Your "white male elites", are jews. All of them. You defend the women who betray their people,by saying that men should stand up. But men you want to defend you, have been effectively neutered by aforementioned jews, at the bequest of women. Maybe you should spend your time telling women how they can improve, rather than telling men how they can improve. You're only viable,because we protect you.
TL;DR
Don't attack theen you have made, attack the women that have made men this way.

[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 3.3 yearsFeb 8, 2022 22:37:02 ago (+0/-0)

Well I do tend to carry on too long to be effective.

Your "white male elites", are jews. All of them.

Unfortunately this is not true. Many white men are collaborating with the jews. White does not always mean virtuous.

You defend the women who betray their people,by saying that men should stand up

I do not defend women who betray their people. Where do I do that? Im not sure I know what you mean by saying that I want men to stand up. In what sense? That’s kind of vague. I want white men and women to stand up for their people, together.

have been effectively neutered by aforementioned jews

What are you talking about? On this site ? I simply ask that videos of women falling down on pavement or being punched in the face not be promoted with 40 up votes under “thot patrolled”. I simply ask that all women in all circumstances not be characterized as “thots” and that I don’t have to read sentiments like “white women should be beaten” or “white sharia for women” or “women are not capable of behaving like adults because their brains are incapable of logic” etc. Every fucking day. This is not white nationalism. This is not white values. This is not traditional values. The antidote to feminism is not to abuse women and act like a bunch of muslims.

Jews did not make goats say or do any of these things by neutering them. Defending women? How about not running them down categorically as a species like you would jews. Im not asking for a white knight. Im asking for less active abuse.

I have no choice, jews make me say degrading dehumanizing things about women. Women make these things. Its at women’s behest.

You do exactly what feminists do. You use an example of a few women behaving selfishly to condemn all women as evil. This is not only unfair, its a direct threat to our survival as a race.

Maybe you should spend your time telling women how they can improve, rather than telling men how they can improve.

I do. But I cant ignore this problem. Instead of focusing on concilliation and collaboration between the men and women who want to rebuild our society, you’re just gonna get even with all women everywhere because you saw some woke bitch on twitter. Thats a problem. That is absolutely whats happening with some of the guys here. White women are not meant to be servants and we’re not meant to be treated like children. We are different but not inferior or less virtuous. Trying to encourage young men to believe these lies is the height of immorality. You are murdering the white race when you do this. It must be stopped.

[ - ] GeneralDisarray 1 point 3.3 yearsFeb 8, 2022 19:50:30 ago (+1/-0)

You just protected rapists!

Funny how you narcissists love to enable abuse.

[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 3.3 yearsFeb 8, 2022 20:19:15 ago (+0/-0)

Lol. You should see my MRIs!

[ - ] GeneralDisarray -1 points 3.3 yearsFeb 8, 2022 20:49:35 ago (+0/-1)

I can see from your gaslighting, lake of empathy, flip the script, passive aggressive violence, invalidation, enabling, hateful and dehumanizing comments that you are very similar to the bottom scan!

https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-d42a927714d8cf7070d455c70cd947dc

You have been mentally circumcised by savagely abusing an innocent victim!, destroying your conscience and making you avoid all self reflection resulting in this atrophy!

You are the result and cause of rape culture that protects and rewards women who are rapists!!

I'm sorry you didn't have the strength to refuse to take part in the abuse. But I and many others did. Our existence exposes that you had a choice and you chose badly because you have no spine. Sorry I remind you of that!

[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 3.3 yearsFeb 8, 2022 21:46:33 ago (+0/-0)

To you, everybody is a psychopath that disagrees with your hypothesis that all psychopaths can be rooted out with a brain scan. Im sorry you didn’t have the strenght to ascertain the fact that psychopathy is not associated with a specific neurological pathology but is a broad categorization for many different behavioral profiles which make certain individuals high risk to interact with in a cooperative society. They don’t all have the same etiology. Psychopathy is just a category, like “sinner”. You wouldn’t expect that everyone who sins alot has similare brain scans, would you?

You cant take a rational critique without lashing out. Which doesn’t make you a psychopath but it does make you infantile. Hey maybe there’s a blood test for that?

[ - ] deleted 0 points 3.3 yearsFeb 9, 2022 03:16:07 ago (+0/-0)

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[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 3.3 yearsFeb 9, 2022 08:07:00 ago (+0/-0)

By the core definition, no, because women aren't known to overpower men, that is rare.

And by any other definition.

But women will absolutely bait a man and accuse him of rape when they change their mind or when the man

This is called lying. It is not rape by any stretch of the imagination.

You think Im saying women never do bad shit? They do. They’re sort of like people that way.

Women who lie and scheme and behave opportunistically are called assholes. Sociopaths if you like. Women have their share of assholes. So do men.

I do not go around pointing out rando white male assholes and then speciously concluding that “ALL WHITE MALES ARE MATRYOSHKA DOLLS WHO WILL TURN AROUND AND DEVOUR FEMALES”

Look at what you have actually said here: All white females either sexually abuse children or beat them. You have categorically explicitly said ALL FEMALES ARE SEXUAL ABUSERS OR VIOLENT ABUSERS. That actually happened. That why you MGTOW faggots are a joke. You are lunatics just like the feminists.

Some people behave in opportunistic ways. Whites behave less opportunistically than blacks. Women’s opportunistic behaviors are DIFFERENT then men’s opportunistic behaviors. There’s no reason to think that female strategy is more opportunistic than male strategy since males and females co-evolved and their respective evolutionary success coincide.

Actual perpetrated domestic violence by lesbians or any kind of violence by lesbians has never been shown to be significantly different from other kinds of women. Violence perpetrated by biological women, lebian or otherwise, is far lower than male violence. Males are more violent because androgens predispose the brain to violence. This is observable across populations, across history and across species.

Males have higher libidos which is why they are more likely to commit sex crimes including child sexual abuse. Almost all adult victims of child sexual abuse assert their perpetrators are male. I think female perpetrated sexual abuse may be underreported. But it is not likely to be as high as male rates. Females are simply not as libidinous.

Stats on lesbian domestic violence are not based on convictions and include a large number of transexual males who are more violent than cis-het males. So I wouldn’t give them much credibilty.

Androgens are strongly correlated to violence and rape. Its just biological reality. These are opportunistic strategies that work for males. Women have different opportunistic strategies. You don’t want to look at the world the way it exists, biologically. You want to make up silly stories that make you feel better about yourself because mentally, you’re a feminist. You’re a BLM nigger. Reality can go to hell, your feels are the most important. You cherry pick some random news story about a dogecoin millionaire getting raped and use it to argue that literally all women are evil matryoshka dolls that either molest or beat children. You’re an ass.

[ - ] deleted 0 points 3.3 yearsFeb 9, 2022 14:11:02 ago (+0/-0)

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[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 3.3 yearsFeb 9, 2022 19:52:30 ago (+0/-0)

If you don’t want to debate, just say so. This is a cope.

[ - ] deleted 0 points 3.3 yearsFeb 9, 2022 20:15:22 ago (+0/-0)

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[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 3.3 yearsFeb 9, 2022 20:20:29 ago (+0/-0)

You think all women are evil matryoshka dolls trying to molest everyone, but Im seething. Sure.

[ - ] deleted 0 points 3.3 yearsFeb 9, 2022 20:32:31 ago (+0/-0)

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[ - ] mattsixteen24 -2 points 3.3 yearsFeb 8, 2022 20:58:12 ago (+0/-2)

JUDEN PETERSTEIN BEING PROMOTED ON VOAT??? Take this garbage back to Poal and feed it to the Qtards. This is qtard chow.

[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 3.3 yearsFeb 9, 2022 08:10:09 ago (+0/-0)

This is a shit take.