I did a quick search a while back on some less kiked search engines, but any information regarding the symbol was alongside screeching about "neo-nazis".
Eclipses. Back in the 1st to 6th century, it was believed that children born on the year of the Black Sun would bring the end of the world. Scandinavian tribesmen believed the Black Sun would bring the Ragnarok. Germanics thought it as a bad omen, but generally as a symbol of change, whether good or bad.
The name isn't really as important as the concept it represents. It represents the German Entropy Myth. "Black Sun" is just a shorthand for this. Did Ragnar call it the "Black Sun"? Probably not, but he understood the Entropy Myth and had some name for it.
Another name might they might have called it was the "Wolf Winter" or "Great Winter".
Anyhow, I agree that wolves swallowing the sun is a part of germanic myth, I've just never seen a source connecting that event/myth with that particular type of swastika.
We're getting downvoated by Christ-Cucks who, deep down, acknowledge that Whites have a Heroic Epic older than Christianity. Yet, the Black Sun reminds them that they betrayed their own Heroic Epic to worship a Jew.
The only reason the Epics were in danger in the first place is because of the Christ-Cucks. Nobody was talking about burning down the Library of Alexandria before the Christ-Cucks came along and burnt down the Library of Alexandria.
This isn't a direct answer to your question, but the cycle of the eclipses appears to be one of the most ancient of solar-wheel time keeping tools. Different cultures probably call it different things, have different mythologies, etc., but eclipses, and specifically their longer cycle were/are really important.
Oh totally. It's hard to imagine an early civilisation seeing the sun disappear and just going "Huh, weird, I guess I'll take a break until it comes back."
It's an just an ancient symbol that is commonly found in Germanic archeological sites. It's so ancient, that saying what it means with any certanty is lost to time.
There are many German myths about the sun being consumed during Ragnarok. But I suspect the Black Sun itself is older than the modern myth. IE Ragnarok has evolved over millennia from a proto-entropy myth.
All we know is that it belongs to us and our people are older than history.
Then we can compare this symbol to the symbols of other civilizations and know who we aren't. Is the Black Sun a Star of David? No? OK, well we aren't Jews. I can live with that. Is the Black Sun a Cross? No? OK, we aren't Christians. I can live with that too.
So, What are we? We are Germans, and don't you fucking forget it! And the Black Sun is ours!
No, that's fucking wrong. Sorry Foo, but you be coping bro. The black sun is a variation of both the swastik, and the Dharma wheel used by the Buddhists. All three are Aryan symbols and are found wherever ancient Aryan civilization thrived. The black sun specifically is the joining of the solar cross, which is the swastik, and the eightfold Aryan path to enlightenment, which is the Dharma wheel. That's why it has twelve "spokes" with a circle in the middle.
Literally anyone can look at these two solar symbols and see how they've been put together. The black sun is way, way newer than either. It's a neo-aryan symbol if you take into account how long the other two have been around. It true that it's design may have been inspired by the Norse solar cross in runic form, it's a very new symbol.
Show me an example of it that's more than 500 years old. I'll fucking buy you a beer if you can.
The Black Sun is a continuation the same motif as the Solar Cross. The Black Sun just represents the entropy myth that repeats itself in German culture wherein the sun is consumed.
You are confusing the sun chariot/swastika, which is common in all Indo-European cultures with the Black Sun which is specific to Germanic cultures.
If you want an example of this that is older than 500 years, look up Skoll and Hati. Don't bother with buying me a beer. Just remember that you are White and learning something new is better than pretending you didn't.
Also, don't get caught up in the modern design of the Black Sun. Icons change over the millenia. The number of spokes is probably arbitrary and not really important.
The modern black sun image appears to be almost entirely modern with a basis in antiquity, the point being that the 3rd reich had the swastika and that any new movement in that direction would need a new symbol, someone told me they had seen it in 3rd reich architecture and art but I've not seen it. There are ancient pendants. And what are either ceremonial or jewelery items we've found in digs with a strikingly similar motif. We have no notion of how they called this motif, the name black sun is a modern invention based on older myths you'll see referenced in this comment section but also I believe "black sun" was chosen because many see the sun as the eye of God and that on an eclipse day God cannot see what we do in the shadow of the moon, it's a symbol that predicts a black day of retribution and among those using it we have the common notion of the day of the rope, or rope day. The feelings and attitude behind these notions is similar and I believe it is what drives the modern attraction to the modern black sun symbol.
It's also worth noting that the arms of the black sun are much more widely flung, aside from the black sun dedicated communities here and on poal who see it exclusively as a pagan symbol for german origin peoples, I believe most who hold a place for the black sun image in their hearts merely experience the image as a call for whites across white and western civilization to rise up in unison and cast down the outsiders, whom I do not believe are defined as Christian whites as the deluded few in those two subverses do but are the muslim, hispanic, and negroe invaders and that the system which must be cast down to achieve this is jewish power and order. Thus the black sun has a broad appeal to all whites and in manny cases I have observed it appeals to peoples who believe in their own aryan origins be they indians or mestizos.
In simplest terms the modern black sun symbolizes a time of upheaval when whites will overthrow the current order and reestablish ourselves.
It is heraldic symbolism.
October 14 2023 transit from texas to the west coast.
April 8 2024 transit from maine to texas
August 12 2026 transit over the UK(just to the west over the atlantic but close enough)
October 25 2022, a partial eclipse over all of europe and then some, from northern ireland to india
These are the best eclipse dates this decade for the means of the black sun.
It's possible that at one point, Saturn could have been a failed brown dwarf, which are in turn failed stars. I doubt it though; Saturn is less massive than Jupiter, and neither have close to the mass for pressures that could result in stable fusion. If Saturn did indeed burn bright at one point, something may have lit its atmosphere up.
I have been watching a few videos from the SuspiciousObservers channel on YT. They frequently mention 'micro novas'. Essentially these are electromagnetic phenomena that occur periodically due to the accumulation of dust in the space surrounding star bodies. I wonder if it's possible that a similar event could have occurred with Saturn. Here I don't mean in the typical sense of a star micro nova, but something like an electromagnetic event surrounding Saturn and its coupling with the Sun. Perhaps there was some kind of explosive event with a large discharge of material which now accounts for the rings of Saturn. Such an event might not be an extinction-lvl threat for earth, but it would certainly be a visible event from earth, and might in turn precipitate some disastrous weather event from our past, an ice age or something.
Of course, this is pure speculation and it isn't pretending to be anything else.
Incidentally, there might be some allegorical significance in the Saturn/Satan connection in the monotheist traditions, where especially in Judaism and Christianity, Satan is viewed as the 'angel' who sought to supplant God the Father. If the real referents of such epic stories referred to 'something attempting to overthrow the sun', it might be something that competed with the sun in terms of visible light and climatic effects on earth. If it had indeed been associated with catastrophic weather events, then it would also be obvious why such a principle as Saturn/Satan is always connected to being 'periodically loosed' from its prison, and also with a disruption of the regular cosmic order. Again, I'm spit-balling, but it's interesting.
The black sun varies, but one that has been pretty consistent throughout the world is that it's symbolic for the head of the heathen patheon gods. For the Greeks, this was Zeus, for the Romans this was Jupiter, and so on. However, it's also the symbolism used in witchcraft circles to represent the devil.
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Another name might they might have called it was the "Wolf Winter" or "Great Winter".
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Anyhow, I agree that wolves swallowing the sun is a part of germanic myth, I've just never seen a source connecting that event/myth with that particular type of swastika.
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Nobody was talking about burning down the Library of Alexandria before the Christ-Cucks came along and burnt down the Library of Alexandria.
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Agreed!
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The publicity of an agreed upon symbol is all that matters
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It's an just an ancient symbol that is commonly found in Germanic archeological sites. It's so ancient, that saying what it means with any certanty is lost to time.
There are many German myths about the sun being consumed during Ragnarok. But I suspect the Black Sun itself is older than the modern myth. IE Ragnarok has evolved over millennia from a proto-entropy myth.
All we know is that it belongs to us and our people are older than history.
Then we can compare this symbol to the symbols of other civilizations and know who we aren't. Is the Black Sun a Star of David? No? OK, well we aren't Jews. I can live with that. Is the Black Sun a Cross? No? OK, we aren't Christians. I can live with that too.
So, What are we? We are Germans, and don't you fucking forget it! And the Black Sun is ours!
Heil Odin!
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Literally anyone can look at these two solar symbols and see how they've been put together. The black sun is way, way newer than either. It's a neo-aryan symbol if you take into account how long the other two have been around. It true that it's design may have been inspired by the Norse solar cross in runic form, it's a very new symbol.
Show me an example of it that's more than 500 years old. I'll fucking buy you a beer if you can.
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Here you go: http://www.pictokon.net/bilder/09-05-bildermaterial/germanen-12-alemannische-zierscheiben-aus-bronze-7-jahrhundert.html
It doesn't have 12 arms or that inner ring, but other than that it's clearly the same thing.
Edit: Here's another few...
https://www.pinterest.com.au/pin/490610953158946996/
https://www.pinterest.com.au/pin/385972630540197136/
https://www.pinterest.com.au/pin/490610953134499763/
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You are confusing the sun chariot/swastika, which is common in all Indo-European cultures with the Black Sun which is specific to Germanic cultures.
If you want an example of this that is older than 500 years, look up Skoll and Hati. Don't bother with buying me a beer. Just remember that you are White and learning something new is better than pretending you didn't.
Also, don't get caught up in the modern design of the Black Sun. Icons change over the millenia. The number of spokes is probably arbitrary and not really important.
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Although its spoken of in numerous historical texts in various civilizations across the planet, currently we have no proof.
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Also, what makes you think that particular type of swastika was associated with saturn?
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zierscheiben
https://files.catbox.moe/09tkd0.pdf
https://youtu.be/xiJ_GAcEQ_A
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It's also worth noting that the arms of the black sun are much more widely flung, aside from the black sun dedicated communities here and on poal who see it exclusively as a pagan symbol for german origin peoples, I believe most who hold a place for the black sun image in their hearts merely experience the image as a call for whites across white and western civilization to rise up in unison and cast down the outsiders, whom I do not believe are defined as Christian whites as the deluded few in those two subverses do but are the muslim, hispanic, and negroe invaders and that the system which must be cast down to achieve this is jewish power and order. Thus the black sun has a broad appeal to all whites and in manny cases I have observed it appeals to peoples who believe in their own aryan origins be they indians or mestizos.
In simplest terms the modern black sun symbolizes a time of upheaval when whites will overthrow the current order and reestablish ourselves.
It is heraldic symbolism.
October 14 2023 transit from texas to the west coast.
April 8 2024 transit from maine to texas
August 12 2026 transit over the UK(just to the west over the atlantic but close enough)
October 25 2022, a partial eclipse over all of europe and then some, from northern ireland to india
These are the best eclipse dates this decade for the means of the black sun.
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In before "jew science"!
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Of course, this is pure speculation and it isn't pretending to be anything else.
Incidentally, there might be some allegorical significance in the Saturn/Satan connection in the monotheist traditions, where especially in Judaism and Christianity, Satan is viewed as the 'angel' who sought to supplant God the Father. If the real referents of such epic stories referred to 'something attempting to overthrow the sun', it might be something that competed with the sun in terms of visible light and climatic effects on earth. If it had indeed been associated with catastrophic weather events, then it would also be obvious why such a principle as Saturn/Satan is always connected to being 'periodically loosed' from its prison, and also with a disruption of the regular cosmic order. Again, I'm spit-balling, but it's interesting.
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