Cops said he would have been arrested for defending himself. funny thing is in a jury trial cops never win in a no knock raid self defense case. Even when cops die.
This page is written a little bit better. The news at the time (memory holed) indicated his gun was illegal, that doesn't seem to have been the case. Something seems really off as the prosecutor wanted capital murder charges and nothing seems to warrant that. I don't see anything about a jury trial, so i wonder if that was a plea to avoid life or a death penalty. The prosecutor should be defenestrated.
Edit: it was a jury trial. The wanted him sentenced to death the jury went "easy" on him. The guy felt very guilty for killing a man and seemed to accept his fate. I will look for appeals information.
That story is completely fucked, and why you don't buy commercial gardening supplies for home use, even if you are an avid gardener. This dude also killed a cop, probably had an easy 7 years in prison because of it, and eventually walked free though.
That was a lawful warrant. Sketchy as fuck but still a legitimate warrant. How the fuck is it okay for cops to pay and black mail citizens to break into other citizens homes for tips. Even worse the idiots they use can't tell a pot plant from a tree.
How is it that I used tactical call-outs in Syria, but these clowns execute a mechanical breach before wasting some dude in his bed after muttering “police” under their breath?
I believe he is referring to a previous claim by op to have a bunch of tours over seas, but his rank didnt match the claim. Something to that effect, i neither remember the exact claims, nor understand the the counterclaims. But in essence, thats what he is talking about.
You are waking a man from sleep by screaming through the door twice before ramming it open, as a flashbang grenade is simultaneously chucked through his window. Anyone could reasonably assume they were in danger in that context, and respond accordingly. So the police enter waiting for such a response as a justification for shoot-to-kill.
It would be like approaching someone from behind with your gun drawn, kicking them in the back of the knee causing them to collapse, and then shooting that person in the head if they swung at you while falling.
So the tactical argument has to be that, if an alleged suspect is considered dangerous, they have to act quickly so that this person cannot escape or get hunkered in and possibly become a lethal threat to responding officers when the door is finally rammed. That favors a sudden act on the part of police.
To me, this is an issue of the law favoring the rights of the accused. Law shouldn't favor the rights of cops to be tactically efficient over the possibility of harming innocent people.
If they were concerned about an escape attempt, then you surround the building. There is no reason why they are justified with the no-knock and not giving someone reasonable time - at 5 fucking a.m. - to gather their wits and orient themselves. If the question is whether or not the suspect is awake and possibly dangerous, then there is technology that would make it possible to gather whether activity was going on inside. I'm sure some kind of infrared or audio tech could be used in such cases to determine whether there is activity taking place inside.
This shit is just brute force clumsiness that is totally numb to the fact that surprise ambushing someone in the dead of night is likely to get a defensive response even from the innocent.
Officer Brice Clements, 36, who has been employed with LVMPD since 2009 Officer Alex Gonzales, 39, who has been employed with LVMPD since 2006 Officer James Rothenburg, 39, who has been employed with LVMPD since 2008 Sgt. Russell Backman, 46, who has been employed with LVMPD since 1999 Officer Kerry Kubla, 50 who has been employed with LVMPD since 2008
So a mestizo and at least two jews. Want to bet this'll be billed as "Five racist white cops murder black man because he's black."
If a police force starts acting like an occupying army then it has already failed and deserves to be dissolved.
Just another sign that things are escalating as society breaks down. Soon people will realize that they have to form 'tribes' and do their own 'policing'. This will eventually lead to armed conflicts between different tribes, as well as between tribes and "official" law enforcement. TPTB already know this and that is why they've been militarizing the police forces.
WHY idiots should NOT issue "NO KNOCK warrants". ALSO prove there ARE idiots in HIGH PLACES (decision making places). ALSO the SUPREME COURT OUTLAWED "no KNOCK warrants" for JUST this REASON. RECENTLY.
How about they get the right person before they break down your door and murder you. But alas the 19-year-old was white so nothing will be done about it.
Edit: upon double checking I can assure you that we are in fact dealing with a nigger.
I was suspicious already when you said it was a white person, because if it was, they wouldn't have released the footage this quickly, but they will do anything they can to please the rabid mobs of retards when one of societies pet nigs gets killed.
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https://www.november.org/thewall/cases/frederick-r/index.html
Edit: it was a jury trial. The wanted him sentenced to death the jury went "easy" on him. The guy felt very guilty for killing a man and seemed to accept his fate. I will look for appeals information.
https://www.pilotonline.com/news/crime/article_695d6283-9176-5049-a0eb-d2fb25f25d1d.html
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It would be like approaching someone from behind with your gun drawn, kicking them in the back of the knee causing them to collapse, and then shooting that person in the head if they swung at you while falling.
So the tactical argument has to be that, if an alleged suspect is considered dangerous, they have to act quickly so that this person cannot escape or get hunkered in and possibly become a lethal threat to responding officers when the door is finally rammed. That favors a sudden act on the part of police.
To me, this is an issue of the law favoring the rights of the accused. Law shouldn't favor the rights of cops to be tactically efficient over the possibility of harming innocent people.
If they were concerned about an escape attempt, then you surround the building. There is no reason why they are justified with the no-knock and not giving someone reasonable time - at 5 fucking a.m. - to gather their wits and orient themselves. If the question is whether or not the suspect is awake and possibly dangerous, then there is technology that would make it possible to gather whether activity was going on inside. I'm sure some kind of infrared or audio tech could be used in such cases to determine whether there is activity taking place inside.
This shit is just brute force clumsiness that is totally numb to the fact that surprise ambushing someone in the dead of night is likely to get a defensive response even from the innocent.
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Officer Alex Gonzales, 39, who has been employed with LVMPD since 2006
Officer James Rothenburg, 39, who has been employed with LVMPD since 2008
Sgt. Russell Backman, 46, who has been employed with LVMPD since 1999
Officer Kerry Kubla, 50 who has been employed with LVMPD since 2008
So a mestizo and at least two jews. Want to bet this'll be billed as "Five racist white cops murder black man because he's black."
If a police force starts acting like an occupying army then it has already failed and deserves to be dissolved.
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Edit: upon double checking I can assure you that we are in fact dealing with a nigger.
I was suspicious already when you said it was a white person, because if it was, they wouldn't have released the footage this quickly, but they will do anything they can to please the rabid mobs of retards when one of societies pet nigs gets killed.
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