Good stuff in that thread: Here's one copy/paste that might soon be useful @system.
"You have a resident expert in this matter and have done these things off and on for over 22 years as a tech hobby (running naughty evil web sites with lots of enemies).
FUN FACT #89 : There are only 10 Critical steps to make a Large FREE SPEECH social web site, able to withstand attacks from large Leftist organizations ADL/SPLC/JIDF/ShareBlue PLEASE SHARE : How to Defend : Vital info for both Gab and Voat or any Free Speech web site !
10 vital steps to create a Free Speech Social Site (Anthropology, History, Political theory, etc).
How to Preserve free speech on an open internet.
How to avoid any more interference with services and user payments
The wires and pathways are already freedom of speech (the internet itself) mainly because of "electronic common carrier" fed liability exemptions.
Its the other stuff that is the issue: How you get paid, and where you put your machines, and how you get a safe domain address.
10 primary steps :
Step 1 : Create a fallback domain name (or two). Only weakness : US DOJ does often sieze domains if used for fake rolex shipments, apple batteries from china, nfl sportswear, or us movie piracy.
.co and .ai are not lifetime secure, I don't know about .xyx yet
Find a registrar that can make a domain own-able by usa citizens on usa soil, such as .com or .name, that is not picky based on HISTORY.
Eranet International Limited out of Hong Kong is most friendly to USA free speech web sites. It just processes the usa domain records.
For example, the whois of this free speech site shows for almost 4 years, it uses Eranet International Limited, as many extremist free speech sites do :
Gab.com in 2021 foolishly uses "whois.epik.com" or (((epik))) registrar, the same censoring jews that advised Gab to DELETE AND BAN jew namers like politician "Patrick Little" and even in 2021, Gab.ai never apologized or invited Patrick back.
Gab and Jew Epik CEO Rob Monster censor together sometimes, for Democrats. The Christopher Cantwell incident :
worldtruthvideos.website was worldtruthvideos.org until Aug 1 2021, but namecheap registrar banned them and regular bans dozens of sites naming the Jews :
Though morons keep screwing up my "step 1"", even Gab, they should not. Its so goddamned easy to use mostly anonymous, not-tracked payment, over VPN, registration of 3 or 4 spare domains in Hong Kong, Russia, and a few sacrificial USA domains.
Step 2: one emergency colo server with IN HOUSE anti-DDOS: Setup at least ONE primary colocation point of presence somewhere, with in-house anti-DDOS switch and service to be used only for development and 3 day emergencies, do not ever normally use it.
Suppliers : hundreds exist. A building that already offers anon VPN to the world (tens exist) would be an affordable good bet. US soil or Russia, best. FBI/NSA in 2021 is a tool of powerful angry Jews and work on behalf of Jews.
Step 3: Your main mini-cloud : Your cloud should have two machines minimum, one on USA soil, though not detectable, and one in Russia.
Pick colocation or VPS rental that majority of free speech political neo-nazis use in defiance to Jewish attacks, such as one running under voxility.net in many datacenters
Their motto is " Pay less. Delivered in days. Cancel anytime. "
10 large multi core blades (enough for 80,000 simultaneous users active) in a 10U space is $430 a month if you select the building the FBI uses, else 519 in miami.
I am far too greedy to list the free speech colocations I use (not any of those), due to me not wanting people to figure out who I am, and paying ANTIFA Jews to burn down my house when I am asleep, like the news reports OFTEN.
warning : IT persons you hire get bribed sometimes!!
No IT person you hire should get root access. They would have "wheel" at best or "system". The company owner would restrict access to root account, if the machine even has one. Then the ssl .key files would then be set set accessible to an owner account used by the launch mechanism that fires up the server.
A few files on a system can also be guarded using low level kernel hooks to monitor read access and restrict which binaries and owners can read bytes from the file ever. including banning root. (its part of DTrace)
Better yet, hire a trusted worker that cannot be compromised using Jew Billionaire Soros huge bribes, or FBI bribes.
There are many books on how to lock down machines so hired IT workers cannot root boxes or gain anything from stolen SSL signing keys alone.
CRITICAL policy to avoid Jews uploading kiddie Pr0n to sick FBI on you : NO IMAGES served, just links, no images, not even thumbnails directly. One (((judge))) once, ruled a thumbnail is the same as a full image for evidence purposes.
CRITICAL policy to avoid getting doxxed : Dont fuck up your ANTI-DDOS and leak IP from email or any other service. Even fetching a thumbnail or testing a link for title shortening, creates a unique path back to the probe machine. Then your post probe machine becomes a weak link, with paid Jew ANTIFA burning your cars and your house on fire the end game. Don't get doxxed by leftist Jews.
ANTI-DDOS? DO not use fucking FBI-buddies Cloudflare, which also bans end to end real SSL.
Use Cloudflare competitors or host in server building offering cheap use of one of these anti-DDOS services :
do your research, and if needed use two in a cascade.
Anti-DDOS service is needed because recent rulings by (((judges))) in 2021 ruled that Jews harming 'hate sites' is legally OK.
Step 4: your corporate semi critical EMAIL Setup good semi-anti-spammable email press relations to main stream news outlets you trust, investor contacts, legal stuff, etc.
fastmail.com out of australia, guaranteed most secure and guaranteed no hidden archives or backups
(several hundred dollars per year, basically each final mailbox is 90 dollars)
Fastmail never ever rolls over to LEA phishing requests and blanket requests
Step 5: your SSL key and domain registrar emails : Keys to the kingdom, no IT workers should have access to this email EVER. IT can be bribed by Soros.
Use a different account and different semi unrelated domain on fastmail, but SSL simplicity is best if email domain ending matches the SSL key domain
Step 6 : your emergency bulletin board for war attack down status (and requests for emergency crypto funding)
setup an onion web site, linked and listed on your normal social site , do not at all in any way use your normal mini coud machines for this :
Step 7 : Create a free trusted trampoline crypto-coin wallet Its the same type as all your users will create (create offline wallet fro funds over 3,000 dollars or a VERY SECURE machine)
Step 9 : teach people how fair and TRIVIAL it is to use coinbase as a us citizen in a web posting
Make a step by step slide show, keep the multimedia to bare minimum and store the multimedia off-cloud Step 10 : teach people how fair and TRIVIAL it is to use a wallet service like blockchain.info for REASONABLE storage of crypto, and how they can xfer from it to you.
Make a step by step slide show, keep the multimedia to bare minimum and store the multimedia off-cloud The purpose of Step 8 is to ascribe correct username to correct non-anonymous payment collected without a user forgetting to tell you they paid you and what receipt, or if they forget the memo field for privacy.
Always of course accept anonymous payment, but such people still want logs older than 3 days digitally shredded.
BLOOD or MONEY
Remember free speech needs to be paid for in BLOOD or MONEY. Free Speech is not "free and cheap"
GETTING DONATIONS IS THE ONLY DEFENSE AGAINST SOCIALIST ATTACKERS
END OF PART 1 of 2
READ PART 2!!!
[–] nil • 0 pt • (+0/-0) • 7 min ago PART 2 of 2
READ PART 1 in thread first.
THE NEXT STEPS : Then when the enterprise is all humming and running fine, know that DDOS and FUZZING from non-usa soil but paid for by Share Blue will be the next forms of attacks other than signal-to-noise gibberish post attacks from curated Share Blue bot accounts.
I have countless ideas on controlling that. (another post)
Have a selection of tools to mitigate such attacks, by using api keys on internal calls, and api crypto signed session keys on all public https calls, to trivially discard stale sessions
That is why you need all of the steps above. At some point Soros will buy controlling interest in the weakest link in the chain above, but when your new free speech site is fully well-funded, its a game of whack-a-mole at that point.
There are thousands of colocation server buildings all over, and they cant buy the backbones to restrict gab or voat IP data packets else the backbone loses its vitally CRITICAL "common carrier" status and backbone goes bankrupt the next quarter,
Only US constitution changes by socialists can take down gab or voat in the future and a new US supreme court would be needed to chip away 1st amendment.
Note that in many countries VIRGIN WIFI SERVICE (Heathrow airport certainly), and even Apple iPhones on T-Mobile look at the ip you go to in your default web browser and block Breitbart.com and Drudgereport.com, or slow you to a crawl.
DrudgeReport was bought by jews and subverted in 2020. Money is famously used by jews to take out targets.
Note that 6 months of provable increasing revenue can be used to garner MASSIVE amounts of US investor funding in this limited opportunity space.
Some so-called free speech systems such as bitchute uses anonymous re-transmission using WebRTC , but they are bandwidth constrained and that will not impress investors.
Some so-called free speech systems such as bitchute offer using your javascript engine for crypto mining to contribute, that will not impress investors unless you have astronomical amounts of participation.
bitchute was a kiked bait and switch , like Parler and other fake 'free speech' honeypots.
.
You do not need investors ever again once your nest egg crosses 3 million dollars, as that might be enough to take on Soros-level wars. It then becomes wikipedia-level funded or linux-level funded or mozilla-level funded.
If you wants tens of millions but not strangle THIS free speech with conflicts of interest , create a new "Hatereon2"
Phase 2 : create a new "Hatereon2"! A New Hatereon2 in 2021 at 8% overhead take, would generate over a million the second year in operation, and over probably over 5 million the next, but would need personel to keep fraud off it, and to pay back ripped off customers if selling hate goods: (MAGA Hats,Trump 2024, Blexit, Happy Merchant t-shirts, Its OK TO Be White stickers, pepe plushies, etc)
They did not own their own bank, so could not get SWIFT directly from wire transfers, or process EFT checks directly, or contract with VISA directly. This made them have to use a PAYMENT PROCESSOR between them and VISA, and they got blocked by (((middlemen))) between visa card and their merchant account.
Your OWN real bank!
All mid tier and upper tier (((payment processors))) , not just paypal, banned voat, gab, Hatreon, or would ban if utilized :
Stripe (Visa owns a lot of this company since 2015, a few months ago they also became a Bank and Visa issuer) PayPal GoFundMe, Patreon,and any crowdfunding platforms other than Hatreon itslef Coinbase (for the recipient. they take visa and allow xfer between Coinbase accounts) Marqeta Alipay (not too many usa credit cards allowed any more) Square Helsim Quickbooks Worldpay Dwolla unionpayintl.com (chinks bought it) None of those are usable due to (((the unseen hands))).
It appears that the nexus between Visa and Mastercard and these payment processors are coerced or muscled a bit.
Being directly a bank and beholden to your customers independently especially if one of the main customers of your private bank is a USA registered Political Action Committee (PAC), would stop all blocking or banning or interference between VISA and MASTERCARD.
But you need to buy a SWIFT capable actual micro-bank (130,000 to 280,000 dollars, plus a note on 1 million of assets), and probably 110,000 a year to run it properly.
US soil best, but caymen or bahama quickest and cheapest
US soil banks cost 20 million to startup and you will be attacked by (((them))) with relentless agitation investigations over a multitude of legal reasons. laundering, stacking and layering, obfuscation, RICO, tax evasion, yadda ydaa yadda. Its just part of doing business.
Offshore or onshore banks are only for hatreon2, because Hatereon2 can ONLY exist if it can take phone images of paper checks (EFT) or cash wire transfers from Safeway or drug store (SWIFT). Credit cards on Hatereon2 would require about 5 million to do properly, anything else goes through middle men that can shut you down between you and visa card.
But making that size bank is expensive but REQUIRED to be the one-stop entire internet payment processor.
Sadly, the end game is that if you use investors they will make you sell your bank (LIKE ALL BANKS IN HISTORY have been sold) to larger (((banks))) and to (((larger payment processors))). Many on that list above are mergers and buyouts, or bought many competitors.
Whoever makes Hatreon2 needs to not sell out.
The simplest solution that would have kept the first Hatreon working fine, is in my 10 step list above :
First all customers open cheap CoinBase.com accounts fund with a visa card or any instrument. Wait. Buy MONERO ONLY cryptocoins. Then to pay people like Hatreon , a coinbase account owner would xfer to an anonymouse non-CoinBase.com crypto wallet created in moments and used foreever that runs in a browser window. From the wallet (tied to a mobile phone number and SMS text for whatever reason) you can xfer to a wallet tht does not use a mobile phone number and SMS text, or just finally send crypto currency to Hatreon, Voat, Gab, whoever. NOTHING CAN INTERFERE.
NOTHING!!! crypto coin Monero blockchain was designed to get rid of ANY single point of authority or simple forensics.
Saving this post for the future. While I dislike poal and AOU, I sympathize with them. This could happen at any moment with this site, and I expect it. Luckily my current host seems chill and has a decent TOS. But good things never last.
Is there hosting solution, that you know of, that isn't kike owned? I ask because I'm trying to create something akin to Voat, but for legal education purposes and this is our first dilema.
[ - ] chrimony 1 point 3.3 yearsJan 18, 2022 10:24:27 ago (+1/-0)
Oh well, AOU (love or hate this is just an observation) isn't rolling over like putt did
Putt didn't "roll over" despite repeated attempts to take true Voat down. He eventually lost interest and shut the place down on his own. AOU runs Poal like his own personal hugbox, something Putt never did.
Punishing the site for the deeds of its users... Illegal if I remember right. Not that the law has ever been more than a question of who is it that you can and cant upset.
[ + ] beece
[ - ] beece 4 points 3.3 yearsJan 18, 2022 08:50:15 ago (+4/-0)
"You have a resident expert in this matter and have done these things off and on for over 22 years as a tech hobby (running naughty evil web sites with lots of enemies).
FUN FACT #89 : There are only 10 Critical steps to make a Large FREE SPEECH social web site, able to withstand attacks from large Leftist organizations ADL/SPLC/JIDF/ShareBlue
PLEASE SHARE : How to Defend : Vital info for both Gab and Voat or any Free Speech web site !
10 vital steps to create a Free Speech Social Site (Anthropology, History, Political theory, etc).
How to Preserve free speech on an open internet.
How to avoid any more interference with services and user payments
The wires and pathways are already freedom of speech (the internet itself) mainly because of "electronic common carrier" fed liability exemptions.
Its the other stuff that is the issue: How you get paid, and where you put your machines, and how you get a safe domain address.
10 primary steps :
Step 1 : Create a fallback domain name (or two).
Only weakness : US DOJ does often sieze domains if used for fake rolex shipments, apple batteries from china, nfl sportswear, or us movie piracy.
.co and .ai are not lifetime secure, I don't know about .xyx yet
Find a registrar that can make a domain own-able by usa citizens on usa soil, such as .com or .name, that is not picky based on HISTORY.
Eranet International Limited out of Hong Kong is most friendly to USA free speech web sites. It just processes the usa domain records.
http://www.now.top/domain/index_new.php
12 bucks to register
For example, the whois of this free speech site shows for almost 4 years, it uses Eranet International Limited, as many extremist free speech sites do :
https://www.whois.com/whois/dailystormer.name
Gab.com in 2021 foolishly uses "whois.epik.com" or (((epik))) registrar, the same censoring jews that advised Gab to DELETE AND BAN jew namers like politician "Patrick Little" and even in 2021, Gab.ai never apologized or invited Patrick back.
Gab and Jew Epik CEO Rob Monster censor together sometimes, for Democrats. The Christopher Cantwell incident :
https://files.catbox.moe/9knanz.jpeg
namecheap is jewed too!
worldtruthvideos.website was worldtruthvideos.org until Aug 1 2021, but namecheap registrar banned them and regular bans dozens of sites naming the Jews :
https://www.cnet.com/news/namecheap-pulls-the-plug-on-neo-nazi-site-daily-stormer/
https://www.namecheap.com/blog/inciting-violence-vs-freedom-speech/
Do Not use namecheap.com for any large site or important domain
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14139288
Though morons keep screwing up my "step 1"", even Gab, they should not. Its so goddamned easy to use mostly anonymous, not-tracked payment, over VPN, registration of 3 or 4 spare domains in Hong Kong, Russia, and a few sacrificial USA domains.
Step 2: one emergency colo server with IN HOUSE anti-DDOS:
Setup at least ONE primary colocation point of presence somewhere, with in-house anti-DDOS switch and service to be used only for development and 3 day emergencies, do not ever normally use it.
Suppliers : hundreds exist. A building that already offers anon VPN to the world (tens exist) would be an affordable good bet. US soil or Russia, best. FBI/NSA in 2021 is a tool of powerful angry Jews and work on behalf of Jews.
Step 3: Your main mini-cloud :
Your cloud should have two machines minimum, one on USA soil, though not detectable, and one in Russia.
Pick colocation or VPS rental that majority of free speech political neo-nazis use in defiance to Jewish attacks, such as one running under voxility.net in many datacenters
https://www.voxility.com/
Their motto is " Pay less. Delivered in days. Cancel anytime. "
10 large multi core blades (enough for 80,000 simultaneous users active) in a 10U space is $430 a month if you select the building the FBI uses, else 519 in miami.
https://www.voxility.com/colocation/prices
VDARE.com seems to use ovh.com instead, but beware doxxing yourself setting it up
https://www.ovh.com/world/
1.25 million active cloud instances
Annual plan starting at: $3.35 a month for VPS
OpenStack KVM
1 vCore(s)
From 2 GHz
2 GB RAM
20 GB SSD
Local RAID
I am far too greedy to list the free speech colocations I use (not any of those), due to me not wanting people to figure out who I am, and paying ANTIFA Jews to burn down my house when I am asleep, like the news reports OFTEN.
warning : IT persons you hire get bribed sometimes!!
No IT person you hire should get root access. They would have "wheel" at best or "system". The company owner would restrict access to root account, if the machine even has one. Then the ssl .key files would then be set set accessible to an owner account used by the launch mechanism that fires up the server.
A few files on a system can also be guarded using low level kernel hooks to monitor read access and restrict which binaries and owners can read bytes from the file ever. including banning root. (its part of DTrace)
Better yet, hire a trusted worker that cannot be compromised using Jew Billionaire Soros huge bribes, or FBI bribes.
There are many books on how to lock down machines so hired IT workers cannot root boxes or gain anything from stolen SSL signing keys alone.
CRITICAL policy to avoid Jews uploading kiddie Pr0n to sick FBI on you : NO IMAGES served, just links, no images, not even thumbnails directly. One (((judge))) once, ruled a thumbnail is the same as a full image for evidence purposes.
CRITICAL policy to avoid getting doxxed : Dont fuck up your ANTI-DDOS and leak IP from email or any other service. Even fetching a thumbnail or testing a link for title shortening, creates a unique path back to the probe machine. Then your post probe machine becomes a weak link, with paid Jew ANTIFA burning your cars and your house on fire the end game. Don't get doxxed by leftist Jews.
ANTI-DDOS? DO not use fucking FBI-buddies Cloudflare, which also bans end to end real SSL.
Use Cloudflare competitors or host in server building offering cheap use of one of these anti-DDOS services :
BitMitigate (only censored free speech servers once)
Digital ocean
Imperva Incapsula
Dynu Dynamic DNS
ClouDNS.net
Neustar SiteProtect
JavaPipe
ArvanCloud
Corero Network Security
Link11
CloudLayar
F5 Networks
Arbor Network
Radware
Imperva
Century Link
Nsfocus
A10 Networks
Nexusguard
StackPath
SiteLock
Fortinet
Corero Network Security
Akamai Technologies
do your research, and if needed use two in a cascade.
Anti-DDOS service is needed because recent rulings by (((judges))) in 2021 ruled that Jews harming 'hate sites' is legally OK.
Step 4: your corporate semi critical EMAIL
Setup good semi-anti-spammable email press relations to main stream news outlets you trust, investor contacts, legal stuff, etc.
fastmail.com out of australia, guaranteed most secure and guaranteed no hidden archives or backups
(several hundred dollars per year, basically each final mailbox is 90 dollars)
https://www.fastmail.com/pricing/
Fastmail never ever rolls over to LEA phishing requests and blanket requests
Step 5: your SSL key and domain registrar emails :
Keys to the kingdom, no IT workers should have access to this email EVER. IT can be bribed by Soros.
Use a different account and different semi unrelated domain on fastmail, but SSL simplicity is best if email domain ending matches the SSL key domain
Step 6 : your emergency bulletin board for war attack down status (and requests for emergency crypto funding)
setup an onion web site, linked and listed on your normal social site , do not at all in any way use your normal mini coud machines for this :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.onion
https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/create-hidden-service-tor-site-set-anonymous-website-server/
Step 7 : Create a free trusted trampoline crypto-coin wallet
Its the same type as all your users will create (create offline wallet fro funds over 3,000 dollars or a VERY SECURE machine)
Use https://blockchain.info/wallet/#/signup
blockchain.info's been around for years, 29 million wallets, $200B transacted. Use it to temporarily hold daily $ submissions to you.
In recent years its fees for xfers skyrocketed to kike levels. Any large monero-friendly famous 'javascript only' wallet should be tolerable
Dump $ forward your cryto to something you trust everytime it exceeds 1/30th your monthly income, or at least once a week.
Step 8 optional track the non anonymous donations
(for user accredited and denoted payments):
Add bitcoin-ish user friendly stuff directly to one of your pages if you trust it to be resistant to (((them))) :
https://gear.mycelium.com/docs
Step 9 : teach people how fair and TRIVIAL it is to use coinbase as a us citizen in a web posting
Make a step by step slide show, keep the multimedia to bare minimum and store the multimedia off-cloud
Step 10 : teach people how fair and TRIVIAL it is to use a wallet service like blockchain.info for REASONABLE storage of crypto, and how they can xfer from it to you.
Make a step by step slide show, keep the multimedia to bare minimum and store the multimedia off-cloud
The purpose of Step 8 is to ascribe correct username to correct non-anonymous payment collected without a user forgetting to tell you they paid you and what receipt, or if they forget the memo field for privacy.
Always of course accept anonymous payment, but such people still want logs older than 3 days digitally shredded.
BLOOD or MONEY
Remember free speech needs to be paid for in BLOOD or MONEY. Free Speech is not "free and cheap"
GETTING DONATIONS IS THE ONLY DEFENSE AGAINST SOCIALIST ATTACKERS
END OF PART 1 of 2
READ PART 2!!!
[–] nil • 0 pt • (+0/-0) • 7 min ago
PART 2 of 2
READ PART 1 in thread first.
THE NEXT STEPS :
Then when the enterprise is all humming and running fine, know that DDOS and FUZZING from non-usa soil but paid for by Share Blue will be the next forms of attacks other than signal-to-noise gibberish post attacks from curated Share Blue bot accounts.
I have countless ideas on controlling that. (another post)
Have a selection of tools to mitigate such attacks, by using api keys on internal calls, and api crypto signed session keys on all public https calls, to trivially discard stale sessions
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuzz_testing
Soros gave ANOTHER 18 billion dollars to use to open up USA borders and Europe and partially refund the Democratic party. 18 billion ! :
https://money.cnn.com/2017/10/17/news/george-soros-18-billion-open-society-foundations/index.html
That is why you need all of the steps above. At some point Soros will buy controlling interest in the weakest link in the chain above, but when your new free speech site is fully well-funded, its a game of whack-a-mole at that point.
There are thousands of colocation server buildings all over, and they cant buy the backbones to restrict gab or voat IP data packets else the backbone loses its vitally CRITICAL "common carrier" status and backbone goes bankrupt the next quarter,
Only US constitution changes by socialists can take down gab or voat in the future and a new US supreme court would be needed to chip away 1st amendment.
Note that in many countries VIRGIN WIFI SERVICE (Heathrow airport certainly), and even Apple iPhones on T-Mobile look at the ip you go to in your default web browser and block Breitbart.com and Drudgereport.com, or slow you to a crawl.
DrudgeReport was bought by jews and subverted in 2020. Money is famously used by jews to take out targets.
Note that 6 months of provable increasing revenue can be used to garner MASSIVE amounts of US investor funding in this limited opportunity space.
Some so-called free speech systems such as bitchute uses anonymous re-transmission using WebRTC , but they are bandwidth constrained and that will not impress investors.
Some so-called free speech systems such as bitchute offer using your javascript engine for crypto mining to contribute, that will not impress investors unless you have astronomical amounts of participation.
bitchute was a kiked bait and switch , like Parler and other fake 'free speech' honeypots.
.
You do not need investors ever again once your nest egg crosses 3 million dollars, as that might be enough to take on Soros-level wars. It then becomes wikipedia-level funded or linux-level funded or mozilla-level funded.
If you wants tens of millions but not strangle THIS free speech with conflicts of interest , create a new "Hatereon2"
Phase 2 : create a new "Hatereon2"!
A New Hatereon2 in 2021 at 8% overhead take, would generate over a million the second year in operation, and over probably over 5 million the next, but would need personel to keep fraud off it, and to pay back ripped off customers if selling hate goods: (MAGA Hats,Trump 2024, Blexit, Happy Merchant t-shirts, Its OK TO Be White stickers, pepe plushies, etc)
Hatreon 1.0 died because of no visa card. A dead end, and Cody Wilson was vanned. Even FedEx would not ship some Hatreon plastic gun parts! : https://reason.com/2015/02/23/cody-wilsons-ghost-gunner-banned-by-fede/
They did not own their own bank, so could not get SWIFT directly from wire transfers, or process EFT checks directly, or contract with VISA directly. This made them have to use a PAYMENT PROCESSOR between them and VISA, and they got blocked by (((middlemen))) between visa card and their merchant account.
Your OWN real bank!
All mid tier and upper tier (((payment processors))) , not just paypal, banned voat, gab, Hatreon, or would ban if utilized :
Stripe (Visa owns a lot of this company since 2015, a few months ago they also became a Bank and Visa issuer)
PayPal
GoFundMe, Patreon,and any crowdfunding platforms other than Hatreon itslef
Coinbase (for the recipient. they take visa and allow xfer between Coinbase accounts)
Marqeta
Alipay (not too many usa credit cards allowed any more)
Square
Helsim
Quickbooks
Worldpay
Dwolla
unionpayintl.com (chinks bought it)
None of those are usable due to (((the unseen hands))).
It appears that the nexus between Visa and Mastercard and these payment processors are coerced or muscled a bit.
Being directly a bank and beholden to your customers independently especially if one of the main customers of your private bank is a USA registered Political Action Committee (PAC), would stop all blocking or banning or interference between VISA and MASTERCARD.
But you need to buy a SWIFT capable actual micro-bank (130,000 to 280,000 dollars, plus a note on 1 million of assets), and probably 110,000 a year to run it properly.
US soil best, but caymen or bahama quickest and cheapest
US soil banks cost 20 million to startup and you will be attacked by (((them))) with relentless agitation investigations over a multitude of legal reasons. laundering, stacking and layering, obfuscation, RICO, tax evasion, yadda ydaa yadda. Its just part of doing business.
https://www.offshorecompany.com/banking/start-a-bank/your-own/
Offshore or onshore banks are only for hatreon2, because Hatereon2 can ONLY exist if it can take phone images of paper checks (EFT) or cash wire transfers from Safeway or drug store (SWIFT). Credit cards on Hatereon2 would require about 5 million to do properly, anything else goes through middle men that can shut you down between you and visa card.
But making that size bank is expensive but REQUIRED to be the one-stop entire internet payment processor.
Sadly, the end game is that if you use investors they will make you sell your bank (LIKE ALL BANKS IN HISTORY have been sold) to larger (((banks))) and to (((larger payment processors))). Many on that list above are mergers and buyouts, or bought many competitors.
Whoever makes Hatreon2 needs to not sell out.
The simplest solution that would have kept the first Hatreon working fine, is in my 10 step list above :
First all customers open cheap CoinBase.com accounts fund with a visa card or any instrument. Wait. Buy MONERO ONLY cryptocoins. Then to pay people like Hatreon , a coinbase account owner would xfer to an anonymouse non-CoinBase.com crypto wallet created in moments and used foreever that runs in a browser window. From the wallet (tied to a mobile phone number and SMS text for whatever reason) you can xfer to a wallet tht does not use a mobile phone number and SMS text, or just finally send crypto currency to Hatreon, Voat, Gab, whoever. NOTHING CAN INTERFERE.
NOTHING!!! crypto coin Monero blockchain was designed to get rid of ANY single point of authority or simple forensics.
Projects like these automate crypto : https://github.com/btcpayserver/btcpayserver
We can Do This, Patriots!
signed - nil
END OF PART 2 of 2
[ + ] system
[ - ] system 3 points 3.3 yearsJan 18, 2022 09:21:19 ago (+3/-0)
[ + ] Special_Prosecutor
[ - ] Special_Prosecutor 0 points 3.3 yearsJan 18, 2022 10:43:08 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] FalseRealityCheck
[ - ] FalseRealityCheck 0 points 3.3 yearsJan 18, 2022 11:27:44 ago (+0/-0)
Words to live by.
[ + ] oldblo
[ - ] oldblo 0 points 3.3 yearsJan 18, 2022 22:31:17 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] we_kill_creativity
[ - ] we_kill_creativity 0 points 3.3 yearsJan 19, 2022 10:32:24 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Deleted
[ - ] deleted 2 points 3.3 yearsJan 18, 2022 08:39:12 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] FalseRealityCheck
[ - ] FalseRealityCheck 1 point 3.3 yearsJan 18, 2022 11:29:54 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] Spaceman84
[ - ] Spaceman84 1 point 3.3 yearsJan 18, 2022 13:08:36 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] account deleted by user
[ - ] account deleted by user 1 point 3.3 yearsJan 18, 2022 08:39:11 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] chrimony
[ - ] chrimony 1 point 3.3 yearsJan 18, 2022 10:24:27 ago (+1/-0)
Putt didn't "roll over" despite repeated attempts to take true Voat down. He eventually lost interest and shut the place down on his own. AOU runs Poal like his own personal hugbox, something Putt never did.
[ + ] oldblo
[ - ] oldblo 0 points 3.3 yearsJan 18, 2022 22:30:15 ago (+0/-0)
Illegal if I remember right.
Not that the law has ever been more than a question of who is it that you can and cant upset.
[ + ] observation1
[ - ] observation1 0 points 3.3 yearsJan 18, 2022 12:08:50 ago (+0/-0)
He doesn't know that.
While an interesting read you'd have to suspect he is mixing in bad advice, if not on purpose.
[ + ] carnold03
[ - ] carnold03 0 points 3.3 yearsJan 18, 2022 09:42:27 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Tallest_Skil
[ - ] Tallest_Skil 0 points 3.3 yearsJan 18, 2022 09:33:23 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] ClaytonBigsby313
[ - ] ClaytonBigsby313 0 points 3.3 yearsJan 18, 2022 09:24:03 ago (+0/-0)