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Even if they’re not redpilled or J-pilled, they can’t possibly claim a single theatre of war in the last 50 years has been to protect their country.
You can listen to the most devoted Jew dick sucking patriot fags claiming they were protecting muh freedoms. They don’t actually even make an argument. They just claim “muh freedoms” then tell stories of how evil the goat fuckers are and that’s it.
Even the vet bro priest class like Tim Kennedy or Jocko Willink. Neither one has ever gave any argument at all deeper then the absolute most retarded CNN “muh WMD’S” claims they can’t possibly believe.
Every other claim they make is just stories of evil shit the people they’re genociding, did to their own.

Once you pick up a gun and attack someone in their country, you can never claim ignorance. You deserve exactly what the conscious does, this is precisely why the punishment should be so great for the ruling class.

It’s like these victims of pedophiles that turn into pedophiles or help groom kids for them. Even if they’re heavily pushed, the second you perpetrate, you’re never innocent again and deserve exactly the same for the sake of the rest of society.
People can understand and forgive them, but you can never deny someone the right to avenge it, or that they deserve to.