Who the fuck is ready to leave home at 18 in this age? I would lose my mind paying bills while working a job and going to college and having to deal with all my problems by myself. I would also never have had time to get redpilled on how fucked I was getting by kikes and their system.
Depends on how you do it I suppose. I left at 17, faffed about for most of the summer, and then joined the military. Didn't have any problems outside of occasionally getting my car stuck out in the middle of nowhere(cars were much less reliable then). Even then though, there's always a White dude going or coming back from work that I could hitch a ride with(back when that was common).
Yes and we have a generation of thirty year olds still living at home because domineering women don't raise adults. They aren't going to get married. They aren't going to have their own families. At best it'll jut end up more single moms who got tired of waiting and had a kid she drops off somewhere so she can go to work and show off her clothes.
AS usual, instead of addressing the fundamental problems, the government parent replacement decided that the kids should stay kids until 25 and remain on their parents health insurance.
How lovely that a 25 year old has their mommy and daddy know why they visited a doctor.
An 18 year old should be able to get a full time job and rent an apartment and pay their basic bills and buy food. That's the problem being ignored.
You must be an american. In the old world, most people stay with their parents until they get married. Even in my grandparents generation it was already like this.
America is different because for a very long time each family could set out and find their own land. There was a lot of land to fill up. And it worked well until the jew-led dindu invasion.
Preserviung the "nuclear family" is a horrible ideal, and is not the way to build wealth. It is a way to build dependency.
But what we're trending towards instead is everyone living alone or with roommates, no wife and no kids. Preserving the nuclear family is just trying to slow the decay(though the reason for the decline in nuclear families is inability to get a woman).
I think that is what the OP was saying with the meme - that "leaving home at 18" (or even 21), without a wife, without a steady, career style job, is a waste of wealth. It pushes credit spending, rather than wealth building. it promotes more consumption that is unneeded.
That 18-21 year old who moves out because "Mom and Dad are mean and don't let me do whatever I want whenever i want!" is putting themselves into a selfish position of "muh freedom" from mom and dad, and instead into "muh slavery" to banks and interest purchasing.
Instead of "WOO let's party dudes!!!" and spending days playing video games, masturbating, drinking, smoking weed, working a job that is not a career just to pay rent and beer tab, maybe get a job with a career path (apprenticeship, own your own service business, entry level management, etc) , live at home and save money, start putting money away for a home or nest egg to start your own business.
I think your chances to score a woman would increase dramatically.
If it takes YOU (generic "you", not you personally) until 25-30 to figure out what you should have been doing right at 18, why must the women of you age group have learned that lesson at 18 instead of 25-30?
Are women that much smarter than men or better developed where they learn about life and what mistakes not to make 7-8 years before men do it?
Or if you were doing these things at 18, and not 25, you're chances of finding a woman who is not a tatted up whore are dramatically higher. If you went into a career path at 18, by the time you are 21-22, you are now approching that first major step to promotion - full apprenticeship if in a trade, that first shift manager position or retail department position, buying your own truck, trailer and mower for your lawen business, etc. would be coming to fruition around that age.
Alternatively, we were that fucking rich fifty years ago that paying those expenses was a minor issue. We have been in decline for fifty years, but we are still comfortable now. Which means we were that much richer before. That is what they took from us.
Counterargument: Kids should be prepared for adulthood at a much younger age. I'd advocate 12 year olds being given part time jobs that don't interfere with their schooling and spending at least some time in shared accommodation with their peers. Then over time the work-school ratio is gradually increased.
That way they hit 18 with a job already lined up, an idea of whether it makes real sense to pursue further education and the skills needed to live independently with other people of their age.
It's best to kick your kids out at age 10. Before age 10, they should be prepared to cook and entire THanksgiving dinner outside in the rain, with only some seasonings available.
I was talking with a couple of goatsthis weekend, and the talk turned to educating your kids about finance, and correlating the effort spent by the child with the reward or product. So, if the kid had to spend 4 hours building a craft item they sold, or even a lemonade stand, and they get $20 out of it, they now understand that if they go spend that $20 on something right away that they don't really need or want, they will have to go do those crafts again for 4 hours to replace that $20.
It was more detailed than that, but you get the drift.
Learning how to manage people, how to merchandise, ow to sell, how business works is a skill that cannot be taught in schools, and often cannot be affordable to learn on one's own. But, sometimes complete failure and having to start over from scratch can be beneficial.
But even a low paid job, with zero expenses, as long as their is a career goal/path to be learned, can be productive. So,mething like selling vacuum cleaners or knife sets door to door (or however it works now), can teach a young person the value of networking, of closing a sale, of scheduling, of cold calling, etc.
Interesting thought. Have them research the companies, make a selection, see if they can make an assessment and "argument" why the money should be invested?
Oh sure, but you learned that and you probably got an idea of what you did want to do.
I think the apprenticeship system was a good model: Young lads learned structure and the value of hard work, but they also had a clear example to aspire to (their master) and plenty of motivation to attain it.
Agreed. When families have a healthy and happy relationship communal families is far better than cranking out tools of the system that get shipped to elderly storage facilities once they outlive their usefulness.
The best thing in the world is leaving home early. I mean the bible literally prescribes it. It may not be great in this crony capitalist eco system, but it's the best thing a person can do to grow, mature, process and assimilate with reality.
I literally know people from highschool that never left their parents, currently 40 and living at home.
Semi true, semi not. My parents were poor, small house, small town. I was ready to leave as fast as possible. From an economic standpoint, dumb choice. There are a lot of kids like that out there.
BEWARE of people who PRETEND to be "Experts" (ALL liberals) on things, they, in FACT, know little of NOTHING about. Liberals and LIES, breathing to THEM. DEATH TO EVIL (liars and frauds).
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AS usual, instead of addressing the fundamental problems, the government parent replacement decided that the kids should stay kids until 25 and remain on their parents health insurance.
How lovely that a 25 year old has their mommy and daddy know why they visited a doctor.
An 18 year old should be able to get a full time job and rent an apartment and pay their basic bills and buy food. That's the problem being ignored.
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Nuclear families as the norm began to exist in the 1940's and 50's.
The kids of the nuclear norm families ended up being the Boomers of the 60's hippy movement, the 70s drug culture and liberal rage, and 80s yuppies.
Preserviung the "nuclear family" is a horrible ideal, and is not the way to build wealth. It is a way to build dependency.
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[ - ] FellowWhite 5 points 3.5 yearsDec 6, 2021 15:32:40 ago (+5/-0)
But what we're trending towards instead is everyone living alone or with roommates, no wife and no kids. Preserving the nuclear family is just trying to slow the decay(though the reason for the decline in nuclear families is inability to get a woman).
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That 18-21 year old who moves out because "Mom and Dad are mean and don't let me do whatever I want whenever i want!" is putting themselves into a selfish position of "muh freedom" from mom and dad, and instead into "muh slavery" to banks and interest purchasing.
Instead of "WOO let's party dudes!!!" and spending days playing video games, masturbating, drinking, smoking weed, working a job that is not a career just to pay rent and beer tab, maybe get a job with a career path (apprenticeship, own your own service business, entry level management, etc) , live at home and save money, start putting money away for a home or nest egg to start your own business.
I think your chances to score a woman would increase dramatically.
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Are women that much smarter than men or better developed where they learn about life and what mistakes not to make 7-8 years before men do it?
Or if you were doing these things at 18, and not 25, you're chances of finding a woman who is not a tatted up whore are dramatically higher. If you went into a career path at 18, by the time you are 21-22, you are now approching that first major step to promotion - full apprenticeship if in a trade, that first shift manager position or retail department position, buying your own truck, trailer and mower for your lawen business, etc. would be coming to fruition around that age.
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"You'll have literally nothing, and still be... happy?"
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That way they hit 18 with a job already lined up, an idea of whether it makes real sense to pursue further education and the skills needed to live independently with other people of their age.
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[ + ] cyclops1771
[ - ] cyclops1771 1 point 3.5 yearsDec 6, 2021 16:44:39 ago (+1/-0)
I was talking with a couple of goatsthis weekend, and the talk turned to educating your kids about finance, and correlating the effort spent by the child with the reward or product. So, if the kid had to spend 4 hours building a craft item they sold, or even a lemonade stand, and they get $20 out of it, they now understand that if they go spend that $20 on something right away that they don't really need or want, they will have to go do those crafts again for 4 hours to replace that $20.
It was more detailed than that, but you get the drift.
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[ + ] cyclops1771
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But even a low paid job, with zero expenses, as long as their is a career goal/path to be learned, can be productive. So,mething like selling vacuum cleaners or knife sets door to door (or however it works now), can teach a young person the value of networking, of closing a sale, of scheduling, of cold calling, etc.
[ + ] Broc_Liath
[ - ] Broc_Liath 0 points 3.5 yearsDec 6, 2021 17:13:28 ago (+0/-0)
Penny stocks might be another way to teach kids about saving and investing come to think of it.
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I think the apprenticeship system was a good model: Young lads learned structure and the value of hard work, but they also had a clear example to aspire to (their master) and plenty of motivation to attain it.
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[ + ] Mikehaggar1776
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I literally know people from highschool that never left their parents, currently 40 and living at home.
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[ + ] patchCodeUnsuccessful
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From an economic standpoint, dumb choice.
There are a lot of kids like that out there.
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[ + ] observation1
[ - ] observation1 0 points 3.5 yearsDec 7, 2021 01:57:05 ago (+0/-0)
This assumes the 18 year old can't be self sufficient and get a job
There's a lot of dumbass parents who support their kid by paying their rent but they have only themselves to blame for that.
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[ + ] thebearfromstartrack4
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I call them PRETARDS sometimes.
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[ + ] cyclops1771
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Nuclear family is horseshit waste of wealth-generation simply for self-gratification and so-called "independence."
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[ - ] cyclops1771 0 points 3.5 yearsDec 6, 2021 17:09:40 ago (+0/-0)
I have unpopular ideas, and proud of it. The idea of "popularity" to assuage my feelings of self-worth is anathema to my whole soul.
Living your life as you choose? You're a damned hippie like me!
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[ + ] observation1
[ - ] observation1 0 points 3.5 yearsDec 29, 2021 01:42:32 ago (+0/-0)
Parental fail if kid doesn't have courage or sense of adventure to do it