Complete inversion of the natural order. He could kill his wife with his bare hands if he tried but the state has him by the balls and forces him to accept the beatings and psychological torture of being beaten by someone much weaker than you.
Thats exactly why its more abusive if victim is a woman. I have been in more abusive relationships than is normal, and you get stuck in them because of the psychology in effect. It's about agency and 'choice'
Consider the difference to your state of mind, health and happiness....between you fasting for 1 week, and not eating for a week because you are destitute (to the extreme).
That agency, also enables you to set limits. consider the difference in the example above, only now you don't know your destitution is going to end.
There is a world of difference between
"oh god, he's raging and smashing my things, i hope he doesn't decide to smash my precious thing or turn his rage on me"
and
"ugh, here we go again, shes in a rage smashing things again, but if she goes near my xbox i'm gonna launch her across the room and if she at any point picks up some kind of weapon im gonna knock her out"
Both are abusive, but one us worse than the other.
You're post assumes the woman wouldn't call the cops on the man for "launching her across the room". Women can act as bad as they want but the second a man lays a hand on her to stop her she can call the police and they'll arrest him. What a man in a domestic violence situation needs to do is immediately start recording and call the cops.
not necessarily, and even then he will in 99.9% of the tume be released a few hours later (in the morning, as this shit tends to happen at night) without charge.
In the UK, the police also have the discretion to 'advise' the man stay somewhere else fir the night, so it's important if a copper asks you this, you say yes, because they are required to keep you apart while emotions are still high.
What ANYONE needs to understand is this:
Abusive behaviour escalates always. If you've been going out with a girl for 6 months, and in an argument she rages in your kitchen and smashes a mug to the floor....in the future that's going to be your xbox. Abusers require the 'reaction / effect' to feel validated because generally they are super insecure, as the mug gets smashed again and again, you react less to it each time, so the behaviour required to get that big reaction from you, needs to become more and more extreme.
Abusive behaviour escalates always. If you've been going out with a girl for 6 months, and in an argument she rages in your kitchen and smashes a mug to the floor....in the future that's going to be your xbox.
If it was actually legal to discipline your wife for property damage then that wouldn't be an issue. "Abuse" is just the result of the state removing the husband as the unquestionable head of household and removing the heirarchy.
I had a woman like that in my life. When I finally tried to correct her abusive behavior, she turned around at tried to get me killed (or at least in the ICU.) And it was just as you described with the escalation. If I had been thinking forward instead of living in the moment dealing with her latest outburst, I'd have realized that mug was going to be my skull some day.
"ugh, here we go again, shes in a rage smashing things again, but if she goes near my xbox i'm gonna launch her across the room and if she at any point picks up some kind of weapon im gonna knock her out"
"And then the state is going to destroy my life so I have to idly stand by watching her destroy everything I've worked for and torture me so I have to just sit back and take it rather than put her in her place."
The majority of cases of women being "abused" is the result of them pushing their husbands to the breaking point and crying victim to the police when the guy finally has enough and retaliates.
The law in many places is so pozzed that there doesn't need to be any bruising, witnesses or evidence of any kind. It's a default conviction for men. The police will remove you from your house over a word. They will put you in jail while the cunt destroys and Robs your house.
And all because some disgusting chug indians fucked around and found out years ago.
Realistically, we should be killing them like rodents.
abso-fucking-lutely wrong when it comes to domestic shit and the family court system.
innocent men get completely fucked over in family court systems and all a woman has to do to jam up a man here is go to his boss and accuse him of harassment (lost one job from that bullshit), or if its someone outside work, ring a magistrates court, put on the tears, say 'hes scaring me so much i dont want to call the police' and bang, intervention order with zero evidence 5 minutes later. (copped that one twice now) - im quiet as fuck. i dont get loud. i have raised my fists twice in my life, that was in high school, against the same dude. i do not hit harass or abuse women. to be accused of harassment falsely is no less devastating than being accused of rape, it fucked me up i couldnt work for 6 months afterwards.
for a man to get a woman done for DV, he has to be almost dead, and ill tell you as someone who has been jammed up twice, cops will. not might. cops do laugh at you.
men get sexually harassed and felt up at work all the time, again, try to report it and the first thing out of anyones mouth is 'what, you gay or something?' - took me pinning a dirty little faggot by the neck to a wall in a dark corner to get the little fucker to stop commenting every time i rolled up my sleeves around him, he got 5 other guards sacked for 'homophobia' but the second he did it to a female he was fucking gone
so no, thats an absolutely bullshit false statement.
Not a criminal record thankfully because i was still terrified into complying with an unnessecary order which ordered me not to do something that i already had absolutely no intention of doing in the first place but thats the abuse. You get the record if you breech the orders. Guess who breeches orders like those? The kinds of people who are either very abusive or very stupid. im neither.
but this is where things get interesting... one of the reasons that ex was shitty was because my sister was causing shit. so i had a complete bitch of a girlfriend and a complete bitch of a sister on the other side, both of which were doing asshole things in all directions... its nuts.
heres food for thought. how do you think it feels to be standing in a supermarket queue next to someone mouthing off at the woman in front of her, simply to set off that persons other half, and expect you to jump in to stop her getting the slap she actually deserves?
It would stop real quick if he put her in her place. I would use the back of my hand to let her know that behavior would not be tolerated going forward.
the vast majority of female domestic abuse victims walk away
the vast majority of male domestic abuse victims are permanently disabled or dead. women far more likely to flat out kill their victims (including children) than men.
1 in 3 DV victims is men. Majority of men who have copped DV once have copped it multiple times, and have also been recorded as the aggressor (part of the abuse)
almost always starts at home as a kid, you learn about women through the women you grow up with. if theyre absolute pieces of shit and you dont realise it because you think its normal then you are most comfortable around piece of shit women and you think what they do is normal while your damn heart gets more and more diseased through stress you dont know exists, so you naturally gravitate towards what you believe is normal, but isnt.
working security at places like shopping centres theres a general running fucking SOP which is complete bullshit. If a domestic starts work out who the aggressor is. if the male started it you dogpile him and make sure he gets arrested and charged with something, regardless of whether the victim wants charges pressed (the victim does not need to press charges for DV, thats false and something lazy motherfuckin cops hide behind) and he gets banned from wherever the incident was, to be arrested and charged with trespass if they ever come back.
If the female is the aggressor you split them up, escort them out different exits, and tell them to fuck off and take their problems elsewhere.
Asshole women do, and always have, gotten smacked across the chops like james bond for a good fucking reason that should never have stopped
Because otherwise they literally learn no consequence and we end up with this fucked up situation we have now.
Our society is ordered this way to break down as many men as possible in this full scale war against our nations!
They are deliberately weakening and killing men and boys under the guise of feminism. But this all leads to a day when the women are desperately trying to find as many fighting men as possible when they see the enemy's face.
They are being used to eliminate their own protection from those that would harm them and their families.
Some women have figured out that weakening the men is very dangerous. That this is a war already.
But sadly the women aren't speaking up an any real numbers and those that do are omitting many of the problems men face. None of them have called for their female privilege to be taken away yet. They say nothing about how men are discriminated against in education, employment, courts and criminal law. Because that's how they got their female privilege.
They don't want to be held accountable. They want their advantages to stay. But they can see the storm clouds brewing.
They will not change in time. 98% will realize too late that they helped their enemy destroy their men with their own help.
Then the laws will change.
Our women will be ashamed that they allowed this to be done while they either actively supported it or just kept quiet.
They put their social standing before defending even our boys.
Endured years of abuse from a woman. She'd kick me, punch me, call me names...one day the neighbors saw her kick me in the gut with our baby in my arms. They called the cops and the cops did arrest her.
3 days later, 1 day out of jail she was able to convince the judge to grant her custody with crocodile tears. "He beat me" she said...
When my daughter came to live with me at 14, she decided she wanted to stay at her new boyfriend's house on a school-night (not that it mattered) she ended up claiming I beat her and the only place she turn to was her boyfriend's...haven't spoken to her since.
Today, my kid, 22 years old, is a land whale who didn't graduate high school, has rotating boyfriend after boyfriend, a degenerate walking Jerry Springer episode.
[ - ] dingbat 1 point 3.6 yearsNov 16, 2021 11:56:18 ago (+1/-0)
Wow. I’m so sorry to hear this, truly. My heart really goes out to you. I hope your daughter becomes, at the very least, spiritually aware someday.
My mom and dad were party animals and my mom would always act like a fucking nut bag, punching my dad and pulling his hair, accusing him of cheating when they were both drunk. I was 5 years old, standing in between them, trying to get them to stop fighting. Eventually my dad had enough and body slammed her one night into the kitchen floor. Her shoulder was separated, but she knew better because I witnessed everything (and I loved my dad so much—he was the best dad) and didn’t call the cops. My mom chose to separate from my dad, taking me with her. She made me sleep on the floor, pulled her usual borderline personality disorder Mommie Dearest bullshit, and had a rotation of men coming around...then my dad took her back.
I was very angry when I was a teenager because I couldn’t understand why my dad stayed with her and went back to the drama...stories like this make my heart very heavy because I realize that was his only choice if he wanted to be around me and raise me, as the family law system is fucked.
because your dad loved you and stuck it in to make sure you weree fine.
i dont believe my old man would have stuck around after my youngest sister turned 16, instead, my mother put him in an early grave with narcissism. i was heading that way too.
for me to realise i wasnt the bad guy took my sister abusing our niece and me getting blamed for it and all the pennies dropped for me, why i never slept well, why i never ever stopped thinking about bad shit that had happened, but also why i had had shit relationships with women.
First ever survey conducted in the US found equal rates of violence from men and women (1970s) been loads of research since then that finds the same. But feminism dominates media and hence Gov so that is supressed and distorted. Research is out there e.g. 17 systematic reviews here https://domesticviolenceresearch.org/
[ - ] 0rion 1 point 3.6 yearsNov 16, 2021 13:22:37 ago (+1/-0)
Only a cuck would allow his wife to send him to the hospital like that. She clearly doesn't respect him, and after seeing his cringey ass reddit post it's all too easy to see.
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[ - ] FellowWhite 14 points 3.6 yearsNov 16, 2021 00:09:13 ago (+14/-0)
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[ + ] theBreadSultan
[ - ] theBreadSultan 1 point 3.6 yearsNov 16, 2021 06:07:51 ago (+3/-2)
I have been in more abusive relationships than is normal, and you get stuck in them because of the psychology in effect.
It's about agency and 'choice'
Consider the difference to your state of mind, health and happiness....between you fasting for 1 week, and not eating for a week because you are destitute (to the extreme).
That agency, also enables you to set limits. consider the difference in the example above, only now you don't know your destitution is going to end.
There is a world of difference between
"oh god, he's raging and smashing my things, i hope he doesn't decide to smash my precious thing or turn his rage on me"
and
"ugh, here we go again, shes in a rage smashing things again, but if she goes near my xbox i'm gonna launch her across the room and if she at any point picks up some kind of weapon im gonna knock her out"
Both are abusive, but one us worse than the other.
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[ - ] noonefromnowhere 8 points 3.6 yearsNov 16, 2021 06:36:52 ago (+8/-0)
[ + ] theBreadSultan
[ - ] theBreadSultan 2 points 3.6 yearsNov 16, 2021 06:59:08 ago (+2/-0)
In the UK, the police also have the discretion to 'advise' the man stay somewhere else fir the night, so it's important if a copper asks you this, you say yes, because they are required to keep you apart while emotions are still high.
What ANYONE needs to understand is this:
Abusive behaviour escalates always. If you've been going out with a girl for 6 months, and in an argument she rages in your kitchen and smashes a mug to the floor....in the future that's going to be your xbox.
Abusers require the 'reaction / effect' to feel validated because generally they are super insecure, as the mug gets smashed again and again, you react less to it each time, so the behaviour required to get that big reaction from you, needs to become more and more extreme.
check out, before you bug out
[ + ] FellowWhite
[ - ] FellowWhite 8 points 3.6 yearsNov 16, 2021 08:29:44 ago (+8/-0)
If it was actually legal to discipline your wife for property damage then that wouldn't be an issue. "Abuse" is just the result of the state removing the husband as the unquestionable head of household and removing the heirarchy.
[ + ] theBreadSultan
[ - ] theBreadSultan 1 point 3.6 yearsNov 16, 2021 09:34:37 ago (+1/-0)
you can 'discipline' your wife all you want, but it's a good way to end up poisoned
[ + ] La_Chalupacabra
[ - ] La_Chalupacabra 0 points 3.6 yearsNov 16, 2021 22:13:16 ago (+0/-0)
When I finally tried to correct her abusive behavior, she turned around at tried to get me killed (or at least in the ICU.)
And it was just as you described with the escalation.
If I had been thinking forward instead of living in the moment dealing with her latest outburst, I'd have realized that mug was going to be my skull some day.
[ + ] FellowWhite
[ - ] FellowWhite 6 points 3.6 yearsNov 16, 2021 08:25:53 ago (+6/-0)
"And then the state is going to destroy my life so I have to idly stand by watching her destroy everything I've worked for and torture me so I have to just sit back and take it rather than put her in her place."
The majority of cases of women being "abused" is the result of them pushing their husbands to the breaking point and crying victim to the police when the guy finally has enough and retaliates.
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[ - ] theBreadSultan 1 point 3.6 yearsNov 16, 2021 09:33:13 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] Youdgetfuckedfaggot
[ - ] Youdgetfuckedfaggot 0 points 3.6 yearsNov 17, 2021 12:15:19 ago (+0/-0)
And all because some disgusting chug indians fucked around and found out years ago.
Realistically, we should be killing them like rodents.
[ + ] i_scream_trucks
[ - ] i_scream_trucks 0 points 3.6 yearsNov 21, 2021 05:38:00 ago (+0/-0)*
innocent men get completely fucked over in family court systems and all a woman has to do to jam up a man here is go to his boss and accuse him of harassment (lost one job from that bullshit), or if its someone outside work, ring a magistrates court, put on the tears, say 'hes scaring me so much i dont want to call the police' and bang, intervention order with zero evidence 5 minutes later. (copped that one twice now) - im quiet as fuck. i dont get loud. i have raised my fists twice in my life, that was in high school, against the same dude. i do not hit harass or abuse women. to be accused of harassment falsely is no less devastating than being accused of rape, it fucked me up i couldnt work for 6 months afterwards.
for a man to get a woman done for DV, he has to be almost dead, and ill tell you as someone who has been jammed up twice, cops will. not might. cops do laugh at you.
men get sexually harassed and felt up at work all the time, again, try to report it and the first thing out of anyones mouth is 'what, you gay or something?' - took me pinning a dirty little faggot by the neck to a wall in a dark corner to get the little fucker to stop commenting every time i rolled up my sleeves around him, he got 5 other guards sacked for 'homophobia' but the second he did it to a female he was fucking gone
so no, thats an absolutely bullshit false statement.
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[ - ] theBreadSultan 0 points 3.6 yearsNov 22, 2021 04:44:02 ago (+0/-0)
yes, pretty much every country will err on the side of caution when dealing with DV. And that is annoying.
[ + ] i_scream_trucks
[ - ] i_scream_trucks 0 points 3.6 yearsNov 24, 2021 23:35:32 ago (+0/-0)
but this is where things get interesting... one of the reasons that ex was shitty was because my sister was causing shit. so i had a complete bitch of a girlfriend and a complete bitch of a sister on the other side, both of which were doing asshole things in all directions... its nuts.
heres food for thought. how do you think it feels to be standing in a supermarket queue next to someone mouthing off at the woman in front of her, simply to set off that persons other half, and expect you to jump in to stop her getting the slap she actually deserves?
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[ - ] Bigdeal 0 points 3.6 yearsNov 16, 2021 12:18:26 ago (+0/-0)
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[ - ] i_scream_trucks 9 points 3.6 yearsNov 16, 2021 00:29:29 ago (+9/-0)*
the vast majority of male domestic abuse victims are permanently disabled or dead. women far more likely to flat out kill their victims (including children) than men.
1 in 3 DV victims is men. Majority of men who have copped DV once have copped it multiple times, and have also been recorded as the aggressor (part of the abuse)
almost always starts at home as a kid, you learn about women through the women you grow up with. if theyre absolute pieces of shit and you dont realise it because you think its normal then you are most comfortable around piece of shit women and you think what they do is normal while your damn heart gets more and more diseased through stress you dont know exists, so you naturally gravitate towards what you believe is normal, but isnt.
working security at places like shopping centres theres a general running fucking SOP which is complete bullshit. If a domestic starts work out who the aggressor is. if the male started it you dogpile him and make sure he gets arrested and charged with something, regardless of whether the victim wants charges pressed (the victim does not need to press charges for DV, thats false and something lazy motherfuckin cops hide behind) and he gets banned from wherever the incident was, to be arrested and charged with trespass if they ever come back.
If the female is the aggressor you split them up, escort them out different exits, and tell them to fuck off and take their problems elsewhere.
Asshole women do, and always have, gotten smacked across the chops like james bond for a good fucking reason that should never have stopped
Because otherwise they literally learn no consequence and we end up with this fucked up situation we have now.
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[ - ] GeneralDisarray 8 points 3.6 yearsNov 16, 2021 00:24:02 ago (+8/-0)
They are deliberately weakening and killing men and boys under the guise of feminism. But this all leads to a day when the women are desperately trying to find as many fighting men as possible when they see the enemy's face.
They are being used to eliminate their own protection from those that would harm them and their families.
Some women have figured out that weakening the men is very dangerous. That this is a war already.
But sadly the women aren't speaking up an any real numbers and those that do are omitting many of the problems men face. None of them have called for their female privilege to be taken away yet. They say nothing about how men are discriminated against in education, employment, courts and criminal law. Because that's how they got their female privilege.
They don't want to be held accountable. They want their advantages to stay. But they can see the storm clouds brewing.
They will not change in time. 98% will realize too late that they helped their enemy destroy their men with their own help.
Then the laws will change.
Our women will be ashamed that they allowed this to be done while they either actively supported it or just kept quiet.
They put their social standing before defending even our boys.
Mgtow is a symptom of the damage they have done.
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[ - ] mongre 6 points 3.6 yearsNov 16, 2021 08:43:06 ago (+6/-0)
3 days later, 1 day out of jail she was able to convince the judge to grant her custody with crocodile tears. "He beat me" she said...
When my daughter came to live with me at 14, she decided she wanted to stay at her new boyfriend's house on a school-night (not that it mattered) she ended up claiming I beat her and the only place she turn to was her boyfriend's...haven't spoken to her since.
Today, my kid, 22 years old, is a land whale who didn't graduate high school, has rotating boyfriend after boyfriend, a degenerate walking Jerry Springer episode.
[ + ] dingbat
[ - ] dingbat 1 point 3.6 yearsNov 16, 2021 11:56:18 ago (+1/-0)
My mom and dad were party animals and my mom would always act like a fucking nut bag, punching my dad and pulling his hair, accusing him of cheating when they were both drunk. I was 5 years old, standing in between them, trying to get them to stop fighting. Eventually my dad had enough and body slammed her one night into the kitchen floor. Her shoulder was separated, but she knew better because I witnessed everything (and I loved my dad so much—he was the best dad) and didn’t call the cops. My mom chose to separate from my dad, taking me with her. She made me sleep on the floor, pulled her usual borderline personality disorder Mommie Dearest bullshit, and had a rotation of men coming around...then my dad took her back.
I was very angry when I was a teenager because I couldn’t understand why my dad stayed with her and went back to the drama...stories like this make my heart very heavy because I realize that was his only choice if he wanted to be around me and raise me, as the family law system is fucked.
Again, I’m so sorry.
[ + ] i_scream_trucks
[ - ] i_scream_trucks 0 points 3.6 yearsNov 21, 2021 05:42:39 ago (+0/-0)
i dont believe my old man would have stuck around after my youngest sister turned 16, instead, my mother put him in an early grave with narcissism. i was heading that way too.
for me to realise i wasnt the bad guy took my sister abusing our niece and me getting blamed for it and all the pennies dropped for me, why i never slept well, why i never ever stopped thinking about bad shit that had happened, but also why i had had shit relationships with women.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YDqm7LXt2g
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