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Apparently all vegetable oils/fats are bad. Use butter and lard. It’s what your ancestors ate.

submitted by 1Icemonkey to Health 2.5 yearsNov 15, 2021 06:09:22 ago (+39/-0)     (fox40.com)

https://fox40.com/news/business/palm-oil-used-in-chocolate-spreads-cooking-oil-may-fuel-cancer-spread/



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[ - ] TheViciousMrPim 9 points 2.5 yearsNov 15, 2021 06:16:40 ago (+9/-0)

I think the line is hydrogenated vs not. There is as far as I know no real problem w peanut or olive oils. I agree that butter and lard have been wrongly vilified.

Really I think a good rule of thumb is "how much has this ingredient been processed?" Lesser being better. There isn't really anything wrong w a certain amount of sugar in your diet but the less processed white sugar or HFCS the better.

[ - ] Had 11 points 2.5 yearsNov 15, 2021 08:05:26 ago (+11/-0)

It's actually linoleic acid content (the precursor to omega 6) that's the issue. There's a lot of studies on it, and you can find one supporting any view you want, but this was the big thing that changed in the 1970s in our diets. Before then, we used beef tallow and lard. Then the whole "cholesterol is bad" bullshit started. When we switched to vegetable oils, our linoleic acid consumption increased by many orders of magnitude.

Linoleic acid reduces cholesterol, but cholesterol isn't bad. It's very necessary actually, and eating more of it has no link to heart disease. Linoleic acid causes massive inflammation however, and there's new studies being done on it constantly. Some doctors believe it is the root cause of our health issues today.

I've read a few good articles about it recently, one from mercola I believe. Olive oil is around 10% linoleic acid, while safflower is 85% or so with all the other vegetable oils up in the 50% range.

Butter and lard are basically 0%.

[ - ] Centaurus 6 points 2.5 yearsNov 15, 2021 08:15:24 ago (+6/-0)

Your body cannot make testosterone without cholesterol.

[ - ] whitemail 2 points 2.5 yearsNov 15, 2021 13:44:21 ago (+2/-0)

Most of the cholesterol in your body is produced by your liver.

[ - ] Centaurus 2 points 2.5 yearsNov 15, 2021 08:29:24 ago (+2/-0)

Fatty acid uptake and altered metabolism constitute hallmarks of metastasis1,2, yet evidence of the underlying biology, as well as whether all dietary fatty acids are prometastatic, is lacking. Here we show that dietary palmitic acid (PA), but not oleic acid or linoleic acid, promotes metastasis in oral carcinomas and melanoma in mice.

[ - ] Had 1 point 2.5 yearsNov 15, 2021 11:19:39 ago (+1/-0)

https://play.acast.com/s/take-control-of-your-health-with-dr-mercola/1b6b200f-117b-445b-b493-e451adcb5249

Interesting listen. I haven't finished it, but what I have heard is very enlightening and worth considering.

[ - ] Mopsink 9 points 2.5 yearsNov 15, 2021 06:41:17 ago (+9/-0)

My rules have usually been
1. Does this item have more than 5 ingredients listed?

2. Can I pronounce all of them?

If the item breaks one of these two rules I generally think long and hard about if I really wanna eat that.

[ - ] totes_magotes 6 points 2.5 yearsNov 15, 2021 07:48:10 ago (+6/-0)

Good rule.

[ - ] Centaurus 5 points 2.5 yearsNov 15, 2021 08:18:05 ago (+5/-0)

Eating Olive Oyl and spinach will give you huge forearms.

~Popeye

[ - ] AlexanderMorose13 5 points 2.5 yearsNov 15, 2021 10:54:39 ago (+5/-0)

You should seek immediate medical attention for those giant tumors in your forearms and that speech issue might be from a brain problem.

https://www.hooktube.com/watch?v=NToDMpoViv0

[ - ] Centaurus 4 points 2.5 yearsNov 15, 2021 12:23:32 ago (+4/-0)

[ - ] PeckerwoodPerry 5 points 2.5 yearsNov 15, 2021 08:13:27 ago (+5/-0)

Malted barley, hops, yeast, water.

Those are the four basic food groups and they come in a hand sized can.

[ - ] lord_nougat 2 points 2.5 yearsNov 15, 2021 13:56:30 ago (+2/-0)

I'll drink to that!

[ - ] Blackpowerwhitepowder 2 points 2.5 yearsNov 15, 2021 09:17:35 ago (+2/-0)

Had the same rule for the last decade

[ - ] Broc_Liath 2 points 2.5 yearsNov 15, 2021 12:34:46 ago (+2/-0)

Eh... I kinda feel those kinds of approaches are just playing with words. For example, if I list every spice in a curry the list could get pretty long, but the spices wouldn't necessarily be anything scary.

Also a lot of ingredient lists avoid using generic names and use the chemical names instead to be specific. It's the same stuff, just a different name.

Not saying you shouldn't be careful with ingredient lists, all kinds of crap out there, just that this might not be the way to do it.

[ - ] Mopsink 3 points 2.5 yearsNov 15, 2021 13:28:11 ago (+3/-0)

My argument on that is this, when making a curry how hard is it to mix together your own curry powder from fresh spices?

I do however see the point you're making about some lists using the specific chemical names rather than a generic name, which is why I normally will also use my cell to instantly look something up if I don't recognize it.

Generally what my two basic rules force me to do is slow me down and force me to think a little harder about what I'm actually trying to make using the ingredients I'm buying.

This has increased by personal cooking skills and knowledge as well as saved me money buy creating tasty leftovers I can eat for days.

[ - ] Broc_Liath 1 point 2.5 yearsNov 15, 2021 14:11:03 ago (+1/-0)

If you're arguing for cooking from scratch then that's not such a bad rule. "5 ingredients" would prohibit virtually every premade sauce for example.

I think spice mixes can be a practical measure though: It's something that's hard to get right, and easy to get wrong. If you find a mix that matches your tastes it makes sense to stick with it.

Sounds like you're headed in a good direction anyhow. Personally I do the opposite: I eat premade meals to limit my consumption. If I cook from scratch I make too much and plate too much. But that's my own personal battle.

[ - ] Mopsink 0 points 2.5 yearsNov 15, 2021 15:34:28 ago (+0/-0)

exactly each person has their own idea's & reasons for doing what they do. You are exactly correct when saying I'm talking from a standpoint of cooking from scratch. Its a habit, I picked up when I used to work in various restaurant kitchens and have continued even now that I'm in my career.

[ - ] Version6 6 points 2.5 yearsNov 15, 2021 08:37:54 ago (+6/-0)

There is some kind of issue with olive oil when its heated. I cant recall the problem off hand but it should only be eaten cold. Like in a salad or something. For cooking use animal fat. I like clarified butter best.

[ - ] MaryXmas 4 points 2.5 yearsNov 15, 2021 08:51:25 ago (+4/-0)

Olive has a low smoke point. Avocado and coconut are better for cooking. Lard and tallow are best.
If you get the oil smoking, it breaks down, that is also how plastic is made.

[ - ] NERVReplicant01 3 points 2.5 yearsNov 15, 2021 10:06:10 ago (+3/-0)

Peanut oil is TERRIBLE. I always break out in acne after eating at Five Guys or Chick Fil A (they both cook in peanut oil). Olive oil, butter, lard, coconut oil, ghee are all good.

[ - ] 1Icemonkey [op] 0 points 2.5 yearsNov 15, 2021 15:36:56 ago (+0/-0)

That may be a peanut allergy. I’m not an allergy fanatic, but that might be what’s going on.

[ - ] NERVReplicant01 0 points 2.5 yearsNov 15, 2021 21:36:53 ago (+0/-0)

Definitely not a peanut allergy lol. Peanuts are just high PUFA, my body is pretty sensitive to PUFAs.

[ - ] Ragnar 0 points 2.5 yearsNov 15, 2021 11:01:06 ago (+0/-0)

No bruh, it’s about saturated vs polyunsaturated. Olive oil might be okay to eat but not to cook with. Don’t even touch peanut oil though

[ - ] dassar 0 points 2.5 yearsNov 15, 2021 13:27:39 ago (+0/-0)

Where's that Mattsixteen tard ??, i'd love to hear him refute that logical assertion ....

[ - ] dingbat 6 points 2.5 yearsNov 15, 2021 08:38:40 ago (+6/-0)

I only use “Amish Butter” and eat a shit ton of red meat. Bloodwork came back just fine a few months ago. Anything the Jews advise us on, food wise, I do the opposite. Think about the prices of red meat now...(((they))) obviously don’t want you eating it.

[ - ] pickingrinninspittin 5 points 2.5 yearsNov 15, 2021 08:14:48 ago (+5/-0)

It depends on the source and whether it's heated. For example the soy oil that most fries and chips are cooked in today is fucking poison. Lard was a much much better choice but got vilified when everyone decided that all saturated fats are bad, which is just plain wrong. And don't get me started on Crisco.

There are lots vids on YT by credible researchers that talk about the widespread use of vegetable oils AKA seed oils. This guy is a good place to start https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kGnfXXIKZM

We make our own lard now, from the fat of grass feed beef. It's easy to do and the stuff keeps at room temp forever so we only have to make it once or twice a year.

[ - ] Ragnar 2 points 2.5 yearsNov 15, 2021 11:03:59 ago (+2/-0)

What you make is not lard but tallow

[ - ] RepublicanNerd 1 point 2.5 yearsNov 15, 2021 19:48:32 ago (+1/-0)

Second that. Lard = pork fat, Tallow = beef fat

[ - ] totes_magotes 4 points 2.5 yearsNov 15, 2021 07:47:46 ago (+4/-0)

Our ancestors also didn't have an 80+ year life expectancy even if they got past puberty.

[ - ] account deleted by user 0 points 2.5 yearsNov 15, 2021 12:33:52 ago (+0/-0)

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[ - ] TheDivineLight 2 points 2.5 yearsNov 15, 2021 09:36:08 ago (+2/-0)

Fruit oils, cacao butter, tallow and butter. That's all I use.

Seed oils are for good goyim.

[ - ] Ragnar 1 point 2.5 yearsNov 15, 2021 11:08:33 ago (+1/-0)

Same here, and suet, plus occasional ghee if it’s made here not in pajeetistan.

[ - ] Jerd34 1 point 2.5 yearsNov 15, 2021 18:54:41 ago (+1/-0)

Animal fats are medicine for our bodies. People knew this for a very long time before we started mass production mass agriculture etc.

[ - ] Broc_Liath 1 point 2.5 yearsNov 15, 2021 12:30:01 ago (+1/-0)

No olive oil

Wops on suicide watch.

[ - ] templurker 1 point 2.5 yearsNov 15, 2021 11:29:40 ago (+1/-0)

Make grass-fed beef tallow.

[ - ] RepublicanNerd 0 points 2.5 yearsNov 15, 2021 21:04:02 ago (+0/-0)

Always had niggling indigestion issues after meals always thought it was due to too much fat in the cooking. Changed to modified carnivore diet using tallow for cooking and lard in pastry problem absolutely gone immediately.

[ - ] deleted 0 points 2.5 yearsNov 15, 2021 19:53:00 ago (+0/-0)

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[ - ] thebearfromstartrack4 0 points 2.5 yearsNov 15, 2021 18:50:46 ago (+0/-0)

I had a dream once, I regularly drank motor oil. Nobody ever mentions trying that. Why?

Was there less of a problem with obesity in the olden days? Or did they just not give a crap about such things?

[ - ] whitemail 0 points 2.5 yearsNov 15, 2021 13:43:23 ago (+0/-0)

Oil being exposed to air is oxidized. You are putting damaged fat in your body. Heating makes matters worse. Hydrogenation makes the starting oil worse.

[ - ] Ragnar 0 points 2.5 yearsNov 15, 2021 11:00:03 ago (+0/-0)*

Who didn’t know this by now?

Edit to add: lard is not the best because hogs are fed a terrible diet now. Fat accumulates all toxins. Same thing with chicken and even farmed duck fat.
You should use tallow and suet instead.

[ - ] oldblo 0 points 2.5 yearsNov 15, 2021 09:48:38 ago (+0/-0)

Supposedly olive oil is something great. Saw some big wig heart expert more or less saying you should slather it on everything.

[ - ] Ragnar 0 points 2.5 yearsNov 15, 2021 11:07:20 ago (+0/-0)

I think I know which expert you are talking about but I forget his name. Anyway, olive oil is fine to eat but definitely not to cook with.

[ - ] KINGMELLO 0 points 2.5 yearsNov 15, 2021 09:23:12 ago (+0/-0)

Yeah with their long life spans. Lets do everything they did.

[ - ] Ragnar 0 points 2.5 yearsNov 15, 2021 11:10:56 ago (+0/-0)

Shalom

[ - ] Centaurus 0 points 2.5 yearsNov 15, 2021 08:23:45 ago (+0/-0)

A survey found that 72% of Americans rated coconut oil as “healthy,” though only 37% of nutrition experts agreed.

[ - ] MaryXmas 4 points 2.5 yearsNov 15, 2021 08:53:33 ago (+4/-0)

I side with the americans. The nutrition experts can go and chug some canola.