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I was under the impression they already had all this documentation. Won't stop me from stockpiling. Does body armor go through the ATF?

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With everything digital and shared nowdays, it doesn't really matter who owns the guns.

A better way that already tracks would-be threats is the purchase records for ammo and other things.

Everything that is purchased is recorded and tied to an individual, and those records are freely shared to every agency.

The ATF purchase records are probably the least efficient method of knowing who the gun owners are.

I mean what the hell did people THINK all those gun store records were for?

People should learn how to make their own defensive weapons.

Things you can make when needed and don't need to have already made.

TL/DR: Transactions at ongoing gun businesses are fairly low risk. Trace can only be done based on gun ID, not a person. Use cash for all gun related purchases.

Per acquaintances in US LE and FFLs. Tracing takes place often and for a number of reasons. Obviously crime scene guns are traced but also guns found in homes with stolen goods, even cases when the car of an unlicensed driver is seized and inventoried. People who have had guns stolen or seized can count on trace info to prove their lawful ownership. Normally a trace starts with the manufacturer or importer who gives info on the licensee to whom the gun was transferred. That licensee is queried as to disposition. The next person, either another dealer or a purchaser is then contacted to attempt to determine how the gun ended up where it was found. Many states do not require owners to retain records on the person to whom the transfer the gun, or the info they have is out of date, incorrect, etc. The trace stops. In the case that the firearm was transferred to an out of business FFL, the records which they should have been able to access to facilitate the trace have been sent to the tracing center to be kept. Here's where it can get shitty. If the ATF records only an image of the original form filled in at the time of the transfer, they have to manually search the images to locate the gun. The wholesaler will know the date they transferred it to the dealer but not the date when the dealer transferred the gun to the next party. The search through images would have to begin on the date the dealer received the gun and proceed through each record until the time when it was sold, which might mean a number of records. Although prohibited from creating a registry by law, many at the tracing center would find it a lot easier if the data were searchable. The concern of gun rights groups is that the data might be moved into a data base which of course is searchable by the ID of the gun but also the name of gun owner and could pull up a list of all firearms purchased by a person from any out of business dealer. This is not a complete registry of all guns or owners. The Klintons forced a lot of small dealers out of business 20+ years ago, causing their records to be sent to the tracing center. We need to worry about A)the feds requiring all transaction records to be forwarded to them from current businesses B)efforts to force more dealers out of business, causing their records to go to the feds. As long as getting the name of the purchaser of a gun requires contacting multiple entities (manufacturer, wholesaler, dealer) and is done one gun at a time, it's fairly certain there will not be a complete registry assembled from FFL records.

Remember, your credit card company is a huge snitch, and they are courting your bank to turn as well. Cash at gun shows or at the dealer where you are already recorded to minimize your trail.

The bide.. JEWS