What if rocks are the highest animal specification? I use the word specification because Domain is currently our highest level connection between everything.
Do you think chemistry only exists on our tiny little (comparitively) plant? I propose that rocks are The First Source. They are a higher classification than Domain.
What was the first form after the big bang? What do you live on? What powers the long-term-but-not-infinite explosion in the sky? It's all fucking rocks.
Chemistry is a retards explanation of lightning after he got struck standing in water and carrying a tall metal pole. And we're sending millions of retards back into that water with poles standing up expecting to understand the world.
Will you convince me that there are 3 domains with no parental source? Could 3 different "highest-level forms of life" evolve without a fucking rock to live on?
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And the award for "most commonly used YouTube Mirror I've never heard of goes to!" -- The guy who refuses to spend time debating my ideas! I've got another 20 minutes to dig into it. What did I get wrong?
My original 'grump' was with the original kingdoms, but when I found out that they "knew" all life was from three extremely different groups, I wanted to find a source. I made a claim and wanted to be argued with. Thank you.
"Tell me what you think instead of being obtuse." ba dum tiss You sealed it with that punchline. Get your head on straight, everyone knows gasses are the First Form, silly.
Took me about seven re-reads, and I now have a headache. But, I'll try to answer your question as you appear genuine in asking it. Even though you appear to be tightrope walking between what you know and the subconscious gibberish that occasionally bullshits you to the correct answer.
What was the first form after the big bang?
Whatever sub atomic bullshit clumped together to form matter.
What do you live on?
Typically solid ground comprised of a variety of lighter elements, that floats on a ocean of liquid heavier elements, that floats on a solid ball of even heavier elements. Assuming we aren't being lied to of course, but I can't see how the jew in all its inane bullshit could profit from such a lie.
What powers the long-term-but-not-infinite explosion in the sky?
Fusion of hydrogen, then helium, then etc. Repeat until energy required for fusion cannot occur.
It's all fucking rocks
Although rocks can contain organic compounds (think oil/coal), rocks themselves are made up of inorganic compounds, i.e. minerals.
Life needs two things to form. A base that has limitless states, and interactions between those states, and a source of change that causes shifts between states.
For us that means the elements, with carbon as the major player, is the base, and energy, typical from fusion, is the source of change. Other elements that share characteristics with carbon can theoretically be the major player, silicon for example shares carbon's oxidation states. Furthermore, fission also works as a source of change.
Due to the way this works, life can exist outside the elements and energy as we know it.
I recommend you don't ponder life existing in a state of existence outside of matter and energy, for too long. As you will be diving headfirst into the realm of unknowable "subconscious gibberish that occasionally bullshits you to the correct answer", and is very likely to drive you completely insane; And, like I said, you already appear to be straddling that line.
With that all being said,
"Could 3 different "highest-level forms of life" evolve without a fucking rock to live on?"
In theory yes, if a tight ring of water/ice/rock was orbiting around a brown dwarf star, at just the right distance. The heat from the star might just be enough for life to form and sustain itself, without blowing away lighter elements that life requires. This life would form, grow, and evolve in the vacuum of space.
Re-reading your question I realized my mistake. plant ->> planet. "Comparatively" might also be wrong but how in fuck do you read what I wrote in your head?
Interesting counterpoint. I'm not saying that the universe can be determined by a single constant. I'm saying that rocks are the source of it all. We're not studying science correctly. We're doing it on our own planet.
I was lying.I won't answer your question because it's too hard (like a rock). But there's a beach nearby and it has amazing lava-type rock formations and to stand there and think this stuff oozed to the sea at the dawn of time is pretty goddamn far out!
My idea was that solids were the basis of life. Sure liquid and air are cool, but it all started with a solid. Could a solid life have formed within air? I'm not sure. Just throwing an idea out there that seemed very interesting
I can't find any failures with your argument. But where do you think life formed? Plasma, gas, liquid, or solid? My initial guess would be at liquid, because we are mostly that. But how could it it grow? How could it mate? Life needs a lower frequency to grow on.
Maybe there is something below solid? (btw, this has been great)
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I don't expect an answer, but will you admit that all life that will ever be found is found on a rock?
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ba dum tiss
You sealed it with that punchline.
Get your head on straight, everyone knows gasses are the First Form, silly.
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But, I'll try to answer your question as you appear genuine in asking it.
Even though you appear to be tightrope walking between what you know and the subconscious gibberish that occasionally bullshits you to the correct answer.
Life needs two things to form. A base that has limitless states, and interactions between those states, and a source of change that causes shifts between states.
For us that means the elements, with carbon as the major player, is the base, and energy, typical from fusion, is the source of change.
Other elements that share characteristics with carbon can theoretically be the major player, silicon for example shares carbon's oxidation states.
Furthermore, fission also works as a source of change.
Due to the way this works, life can exist outside the elements and energy as we know it.
I recommend you don't ponder life existing in a state of existence outside of matter and energy, for too long. As you will be diving headfirst into the realm of unknowable "subconscious gibberish that occasionally bullshits you to the correct answer", and is very likely to drive you completely insane; And, like I said, you already appear to be straddling that line.
With that all being said,
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No shit Sherlock, you aren’t a fucking genius for figuring out we need rocks to have anything more complex like life.
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Maybe there is something below solid? (btw, this has been great)
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