I'm making this post to copy and paste every time someone says "HUUR THAT'S WHY YOU DONT GIVE UP YOUR GUNS" in reference to Australia.
The attached image are the guns that I own, in Victoria. Yes, they are plain and simple, that is because I am a hunter. I am also cheap. Quantity over quality. I also tend to play the support role, I spend more time letting people shoot my guns and gutting animals than actually shooting, so simple and light guns on my back are usually the best for me.
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12g single
12g single
12g double
410 single
22 break open springer
177 break open springer
22 pcp
22LR
22wmr
308
Right 22 single. For when the girls get big enough.
Before the lock downs started I was saving for a proper gun, a ruger precision 300winmag. I have reloading gear for the 308 and the projectiles to a degree can be shared between them.
In 1996 the government banned semi auto rifles and shotguns, pump action shotguns for civilian use and silencers. Certain farmers and professional hunters can still get semi autos and silencers. If you want a pistol, you have to start with a 22 and attend sporting events 4 times a year. After some time and a club endorsement you can get a bigger pistol. Semi auto pistols are ok in all of this. You can not use your pistol anywhere other than at the club (legally).
They also implemented registered fire arms at this time. 1996 was 25 years ago. Every one who gave up these rights are currently 43 years old or older. So, anyone who is currently 42 or younger at the time of this post, was under 18 and could not own a gun anyway. I was in primary school in 1996. I had zero ability to resist the system.
Guns you can get in Australia: 50bmg rifles. Here is one for sale in my state that if I had the money, I could buy with my normal license. This one is cheapest around, if you want something better you need to order it, most stores don't stock the fancy ones, but they are available.:
https://www.gunemporium.com.au/product/barrett-m99-50-bmg-32-heavy-barrel-single-shot/We can get pump actions in any other rifle, other than shotgun. 308 and 223 pump actions are common. Australia also has a large market for straight pulls, which is like a semi auto, but the bolt has a handle that sticks out and you have to manually cycle it, no blow back. My brother in law says its just as fast with practice. Of course, level actions are also available and they are just as fast too.
History of what happened after 1996 with gun owners. The government has been running scare campaigns against guns successfully ever since. However, what has happened is that the number of gun owners has gone down, but the number of guns owned and purchased has gone up. Gun club memberships has also increased significantly. The government attempts to further regulate the guns that come out, but in most cases they are unsuccessful. For example, cylinder rifles had their imports banned and their prices shot up because of this. Some time after it was rescinded because the government did not have the right to do so. They have attacked the Adler lever actions several times because of how fast you can use them, but that went no where. Specially since much better shotguns exist.
Majority of gun owners do not live in the city, where most of the police are. Most of then took their guns rural. Owning a gun can also be hard if you do not have a safe, as we are required to keep them in safes. If your safe does not weigh at least 150kg (like mine) then it has to be bolted to the structure. People renting can not do this. Unless you have a monitored home alarm system, the max guns you can keep in a house is 15. Many people want guns, but the ongoing license cost and inability to get a safe keeps some people out. However, bows have become incredibly popular. I have taken several people out to shoot bows as they do not need a license. I also have 2 bows.
In the end, not giving up guns would not save anyone in australia, because the US has tonnes of guns and they are just as messed up as every one else. Your elections are stolen, your youth heroes are taken to court, your education is destroyed and you are taxed way more than most countries and have nothing to show for it. When are you going to use them? You wont. The same issue there applies to Australia. No one is unified and every one lives separately and lead separate lives. My family is all over the country. I have been creating ties with friends and like minded people locally to create a group for the purposes of defense when the time arises. I one man can not shoot all my guns at once and even my shitty springer air rifles will cause people to pause.
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Edit:
Alternate reply:
I dont have any guns, Im in Australia.
[ + ] UncleDoug
[ - ] UncleDoug 0 points 3.5 yearsNov 3, 2021 02:52:12 ago (+0/-0)
I am seriously considering purchasing a BLR in .308, found a place where I could get R class for hunting then B firearms licence in the state to purchase.
The next hold up is money and the bloody safe issue.
Are the shotguns anygood @12g? What about 24g +
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[ - ] AnmanIndustries [op] 1 point 3.5 yearsNov 3, 2021 02:57:30 ago (+1/-0)
12g is great. It's also the cheapest ammo. 410, the smallest isnt common so its more expensive. 12g is effective against everything at close range. You can take out indian mynars, bunnies, goats, pigs, deer and light cars with the right rounds. It is one of the most versatile guns you can get it. A 12g can also get adapters to fire almost any other rifle round.
[ + ] paul_neri
[ - ] paul_neri -1 points 3.5 yearsNov 3, 2021 02:55:25 ago (+1/-2)
And remember how John had to wear a bullet proof vest when addressing you lot. Was it Ted Drane who led you? Long time ago.
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[ + ] Love240
[ - ] Love240 2 points 3.5 yearsNov 3, 2021 03:18:05 ago (+2/-0)*
You fucking say "NO.", stand your ground... or don't. It's your choice, nobody else's.
I'm real sick and tired of hearing "They made me do 'this'." "They make you wear 'that'." Do they have a gun to your head, demanding you do? No? Then they didn't make you, YOU CONSENTED.
And I didn't say anything about 'saving' you from the government. If you don't know Jesus, nothing is going to save you.
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[ - ] AnmanIndustries [op] 2 points 3.5 yearsNov 3, 2021 03:23:13 ago (+2/-0)
You need numbers. And they need to be in one place. They will come 20 at a time to a house door and its over. Unless you have 20 inside to match, that they do not know about.
[ + ] Love240
[ - ] Love240 0 points 3.5 yearsNov 3, 2021 03:33:10 ago (+1/-1)
Being met by 20 clowns at my door for what exactly? If they're there to force a 'shot' on me, they're getting M855 at whatever velocity a 16" barrel will throw it at them.
Look, I know this isn't a good situation here for anyone, but the US isn't AUS. We're going to get it bad too, don't get me wrong. It's just going to be different.
[ + ] AnmanIndustries
[ - ] AnmanIndustries [op] 2 points 3.5 yearsNov 3, 2021 04:04:33 ago (+2/-0)
But yeah, same bullshit, different colours.
[ + ] Love240
[ - ] Love240 -1 points 3.5 yearsNov 3, 2021 04:25:04 ago (+0/-1)
Where I am, It just doesn't make sense for them to try that here. They are the ones without the numbers, not us. But if they do, they will regret it. That's why I think it will be different. They can't have that. What with the US borders being completely open; I think we're going to get 'sprung' upon by the 'sleeper cells'. Not that they're not in AUS also... Paranoid or prepared, probably no difference at this point.
I wish all of you the best, Godspeed.
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[ + ] Love240
[ - ] Love240 0 points 3.5 yearsNov 11, 2021 21:37:09 ago (+0/-0)
That says it all right there. You Ozzys lost the fighting spirit.
"Es mejor que morir en su pies que vivir en su rodillas." - Emiliano Zapata
"It's better to die on your feet than to live on your knees."
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Its not expensive to own them. It's just that most people are too poor and have to prioritise elsewhere. My car registration costs three times as much as my ongoing gun costs. The average person struggles with rent and a single car and supporting new families and such, but Guns themselves are pretty cheap over all. Ammo though... thanks to you guys is through the roof. In the end because no one is unified and we all pay for separate lives, it makes it harder for people. This also applies to the US.
Almost all countries are boiling.
[ + ] SparklingWiggle
[ - ] SparklingWiggle 0 points 3.5 yearsNov 10, 2021 21:25:56 ago (+0/-0)
Full auto was taken before my time. Realize similar to your laws, we can buy full auto with certain licenses. Anyone can get a suppressor with proper paperwork and fees (taxes, stamp.) I belong to groups and take part in efforts to restore gun rights. We got our ARs back. I name the jew and ask many people what Israel has done for us. That's as much as I will say here.
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[ - ] AnmanIndustries [op] 0 points 3.5 yearsNov 10, 2021 22:42:34 ago (+0/-0)
Every time I go out hunting I always try and take newbies with me. The only way to prevent further gun control here (as the government is clearly treasonous in every way), is to just get more people into guns. And people do love guns.
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