Yeah. Cows were domesticated for human benefit. That’s all they really know how to do. You’re not going to find a Holstein cow in the wild because they weren’t naturally designed for such an environment.
Kind of a bad argument. Domestication is a dead end, those animals are now meat factories without any kind of independent destiny. If anything happens to us they're fucked and we fuck with them constantly. Eventually we'll find an easier way to make food and they're gone.
I'm saying that given a long enough timeline we'll develop technologies that'll make frankenmeat look as primitive as beating your dinner to death with a rock.
Anyhow, the point was that having your species turned into a selectively bred food factory isn't a good outcome.
you have to breed them. But they don't need to have offspring to produce milk
Wut?
Also, isn't veal lamb, not cow?
Veal is made from young male dairy bulls.
Male dairy cows are still used for breeding and eating outside of being turned into veal.
Some of them are kept for breeding, but it really doesn't take too many bulls to do the job, most of them get the chop. It's also inefficient to raise them to adulthood for their meat: That's what beeves have been bred for. Dairy breeds are optimised for milk, not meat.
I still remember the first week I decided to become a vegetarian. My friend and I went into a shit restaurant called TGIFriday's. I ordered a BLT without thinking. It took a while to make. I still didn't not realize my error. The food eventually is delivered. I ate half of it before I realized what I was doing.
I started off as the shittiest vegetarian ever! Oh well.
There is a middle ground here. Factory farming is horrific and we should get away from it. I eat meat and dairy, but I buy my meat from local ranchers. I wish I had a local place to get milk.
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damn jewish women are so fucking hideous it would be a crime against nature NOT to genocide them to the last
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i'm not even gonna click that, i smell degeneracy.
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Well, if you're a vegan activist, you ain't too good at doing research.
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So you think that 99% of cows shouldn't have been born, and that the ones alive now should be sterilised and allowed to starve?
From a species point of view, domestication us a win
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Please don’t tell me you are in support of lab made Frankenstein meat
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Anyhow, the point was that having your species turned into a selectively bred food factory isn't a good outcome.
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They kinda do, "rape racks" are common in the dairy industry.
What did you think they did to all the males kek? Put them in a field full of puppies and clover?
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Wut?
Veal is made from young male dairy bulls.
Some of them are kept for breeding, but it really doesn't take too many bulls to do the job, most of them get the chop. It's also inefficient to raise them to adulthood for their meat: That's what beeves have been bred for. Dairy breeds are optimised for milk, not meat.
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Mea culpa anyways.
O/
E: Also, I always despised cunts like this even when I was younger.
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but vegan is borderline homosexuality
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I lasted until lunch day 1.
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I started off as the shittiest vegetarian ever! Oh well.
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My people ripping on a (((deserving human)))
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Trust me, that cow was asking for it. They just play hard to get for the bull but in the end they back right up to get the meat stick.
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