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Was trying to redpill my brother on the coof and he dropped this on me

submitted by ZorbaTheGreek to AskUpgoat 2.6 yearsOct 14, 2021 19:30:38 ago (+10/-1)     (AskUpgoat)

He went: "Look, I hear you, but let me ask you this: Do you really think ((they)) would make a vaccine which kills you in months, when you've still got 25 years of mortgage to pay?"

I really do try to keep an open mind to anything, and not fall into the same circle of ignorance the leftards seem to be. I try hard, and I try to think about every counter argument I get.

Most are shit. But this one... this one hit a nerve somewhere.

So? What do y'all have to say about that? He shut me up on the spot...


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[ - ] account deleted by user 0 points 2.6 yearsOct 21, 2021 18:59:15 ago (+0/-0)

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[ - ] Shotinthedark 0 points 2.6 yearsOct 21, 2021 18:33:13 ago (+0/-0)

I'm think the same lines. You have to keep getting the boosters to stay healthy ish or 20yrs down the line the activate the side effects with some for of poison

[ - ] TheSimulacra 27 points 2.6 yearsOct 14, 2021 19:45:34 ago (+27/-0)

The bank created money from nothing, if the mortgage isn't payed, they get the house.
The asset is more important than the loan, you can always get someone else to take out a loan on the asset.

His logic is flawed.

[ - ] carrotcar 11 points 2.6 yearsOct 14, 2021 19:59:08 ago (+11/-0)

Exactly.

Foreclosure is pennies on the dollar, vs only 3% interest on a mortgage.

Kill the owner with the vaxx, take the house in foreclosure, sell again for even more profit.

Alternate strategy to stay alive: buy a mansion for xx million. Destroy it or let it fall into ruin so it only worth a measly 100k - now the (((bank))) NEEDS you to stay alive and make the payments.

[ - ] deleted 1 point 2.6 yearsOct 14, 2021 20:49:40 ago (+1/-0)

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[ - ] TheSimulacra 0 points 2.6 yearsOct 15, 2021 00:32:22 ago (+0/-0)

Please, if you know what I can do with all these underpants, I'd greatly appreciate it. I'm still lost on the Step 2 part.

[ - ] deleted 1 point 2.6 yearsOct 15, 2021 00:37:57 ago (+1/-0)

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[ - ] TheSimulacra 0 points 2.6 yearsOct 15, 2021 00:39:55 ago (+0/-0)

There will be plenty of food knocking on the door...

[ - ] deleted 0 points 2.6 yearsOct 15, 2021 00:44:16 ago (+0/-0)

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[ - ] deleted 0 points 2.6 yearsOct 15, 2021 00:45:27 ago (+0/-0)

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[ - ] Teefinyomouf 0 points 2.6 yearsOct 15, 2021 20:04:51 ago (+0/-0)

This is covered in Mary Poppins already. "THINK OF THE FORECLOSURES!!" says dick van dyke playing the banker to the the boy trying to convince him to invest. Send him back to kindergarten so he can learn this.

[ - ] Flabbygasted 16 points 2.6 yearsOct 14, 2021 19:35:31 ago (+16/-0)

The 25 year mortgage was just a way to get both parents working and send the kids to re-education camp. They're not worried about money...they own the damn printers.

[ - ] obscenity 7 points 2.6 yearsOct 14, 2021 19:50:21 ago (+7/-0)

They don't need him to pay the mortgage. What does a mortgage have to do with anything? They will be fine.

[ - ] Cynabuns 7 points 2.6 yearsOct 14, 2021 19:40:03 ago (+7/-0)

Seems like your house is worth more in cash today than the 25 years of monthly dribble.

[ - ] lord_nougat 6 points 2.6 yearsOct 14, 2021 20:20:31 ago (+6/-0)

Mine sure is; nearly double, according to zillow, what we paid for it. So we could sell and technically get more back than we put in at this point, but we need to find a way better place somewhere like Texas or maybe West Virginia or perhaps even New Hampshire. Or maybe Florida... or The Netherlands... Idunno. The missus is pretty receptive to the idea of moving somewhere free, which is incredible since she is very attached to the place since we've planted all the trees and things that she always wanted to have growing on our own property.

[ - ] deleted 7 points 2.6 yearsOct 14, 2021 20:30:45 ago (+7/-0)

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[ - ] lord_nougat 1 point 2.6 yearsOct 14, 2021 20:41:07 ago (+1/-0)

Not only that, but also it would be harder to find some big huge property for the price in a nice enough area... and also all the weird florida zombie crackheads or whatever.

[ - ] 1Icemonkey 2 points 2.6 yearsOct 14, 2021 22:43:55 ago (+2/-0)

I recently dumped two rentals in a worsening Sacramento neighborhood and 1031 exchanged into two houses in a great northern Arizona town.

[ - ] lord_nougat 0 points 2.6 yearsOct 14, 2021 22:48:42 ago (+0/-0)

Arizona is almost tempting. More freedom loving people moving there could make a difference.

But their marinas suck.

[ - ] SmokeyMeadow 6 points 2.6 yearsOct 14, 2021 20:26:42 ago (+6/-0)

Like the kikes give two shits if you pay off your mortgage with their phony baloney fiat currency. The vaccine isn't designed to kill, it's designed to cripple. To force reliance on the pharma industry for endless boosters to maintain damaged immune systems. Most of the sheep taking this shit don't even own a house. That's gotta be one of the stupider takes I've heard, no offense.

[ - ] Master_Foo 5 points 2.6 yearsOct 14, 2021 21:52:26 ago (+5/-0)

If you die now, then (((they))) don't have to wait 25 years to collect your house. Good luck paying your mortgage if you're dead. (((They'll))) just default and take your house. It's a lot faster that way.

[ - ] TardWhisperer 4 points 2.6 yearsOct 14, 2021 19:58:04 ago (+4/-0)

I'd say this:

the mortgage is just imaginary numbers in the bank, you die from a vaccine, the property the mortgage is for becomes the banks property

not that you can really own property and not have it taken away though - taxes/govt will get it if they want it

[ - ] LETSGOBRANDON 0 points 2.6 yearsOct 17, 2021 00:14:06 ago (+0/-0)

Yes they want people dead it's that damn simple, welcome to the NWO and population lowering.

[ - ] HughBriss 3 points 2.6 yearsOct 14, 2021 20:40:58 ago (+3/-0)

The majority of home sales are being purchased by corporations, not single families. They are buying them so they can improve them and make them rentals. THAT is why they want you to default on your home, so they can take it and make an income stream with little maintenance.

They WANT your property. The interest your pay on your mortgage is inconsequential to them.

[ - ] texasblood 0 points 2.6 yearsOct 16, 2021 18:48:02 ago (+0/-0)

Fuck him,its fake money verses real dead.NWO was on the books long before the petro dollar.
Your brother is dumber than you are.

[ - ] Merlynn 2 points 2.6 yearsOct 14, 2021 22:36:13 ago (+2/-0)

Even for jews,money is just a tool. And they can always print more money. "Follow the money" doesn't mean "it's all about the money". The money is the tool of the jew,so following the money leads you to jews. But money and wealth are not the goal of the jew.

The destruction of their enemies is. And everyone who's not a jew is their enemy. By their choice. They can't kill everyone with it right away,so they probably have placebo and trackers in there. If EVERYONE who took the jab died,it'd be too easy for people to realize what's up. So they're just fucking up their bodies and destroying their ability to reproduce. Something you might not even notice for a long time. Long after covid is just a memory of "the government being stupid".

[ - ] noonefromnowhere 2 points 2.6 yearsOct 14, 2021 22:19:06 ago (+2/-0)

Why are they going to bother to kill you at all? The masses are voluntarily sterilizing themselves and eating themselves to death already. They're just pushing a shoddy product at premium prices (to the taxpayer). They don't care about the lethal side effects like blood clots because they can use their media companies to hand-wave it away but if they made something that was actively killing most people who took it then people would notice. Also, notice how the timeline for when the shots are going to kill people keeps getting longer?

[ - ] Paradoxical003 2 points 2.6 yearsOct 14, 2021 22:05:56 ago (+2/-0)

Do you think someone who is responsible for literally all the money in your country gives a fuck about whether you can pay the bills?

The average Rothschild income in 2012 was nine trillion us dollars. If a Rothschild with only a tenth of thst amount of net worth was determined to spend it all before they died from the day they were born, they'd have to outlive the oldest person in history in order to do so.

They got what is essentially an unlimited about of wealth, anything that could be bought, they can buy, they have so much money that money is essentially worthless to them, they simply get what they want when they want it.

What they want is definitely not wealth, what they crave more of is power.

What they desire most of all os to reshape the world in the image they want it to have, which is the image given to them in the Torah, Tanaka, and Talmud.

They want to rules the world, with a select few of their fellow jews, and to have the rest of the world be slaves, with the goyim slaves led by the shabbos goys who are basically the pets of these jews.

[ - ] BoraxTheFungarian 0 points 2.6 yearsOct 16, 2021 13:46:19 ago (+0/-0)

They probably have insurance for if someone doesn’t pay. Also they loaned that money out at ten times their actual holdings.

Peesonally, I believe the shot is incapacitating on a conciousness level. Likely leads to medical conditions which is expensive.

[ - ] Not_C 2 points 2.6 yearsOct 14, 2021 21:43:29 ago (+2/-0)

I've said this before, and I'll keep saying it until people wake up and see the truth.

Everyone needs to understand that these injections are not being used to kill every man, woman, and child. This first round of injections is just to set up the system of yearly mandatory boosters. Not every injection in this round is poisoned, only a certain percentage are. The percentage of poisoned injections is just enough to force their system into place by blaming the deaths and problems on the un-vaxxed. Also, to force economic hardships and other coercion techniques, to force people to accept the mandatory yearly injections.

Once the system of mandatory yearly injections is in place, they will be able to poison and sterilise at will. With mandatory yearly booster injections they will control the percentage of poisoned/steriliser injections going to an area based on the area's demographics - Age, race, religion, political beliefs, needed population, amount of dissidents, etc.

Will they instantly wipe out an entire group with one shot? No. Instead, as an example, they will see an area of the world that is 80% White. Sterilise 20 or 50% of the population, and within 2 generations that area is no longer majority White. A generation or two after that and with more strategically used injections, there are few to no Whites left in that area. - In other words, they don't need to use 100% deaths or 100% sterilisations. Just enough to "adjust" the demographics in the direction they want. And after a couple decades, they'll achieve their goals.

They're playing the long game. And in playing the long game, they "adjust" the demographics in the direction they want. Think about this - In 50 years, the US went from 85% White to 50%. Imagine if they controlled the birthrate and deathrate through strategically distributed steriliser and poisoned injections. It would have been done in 30, or 20 years. And with people barely noticing how it happened.

They aren't only trying to seize complete control of the world. They are also ensuring that they remain in complete control of the world forever by forcing mandatory injections where they can inject people with whatever they want once per year. "Adjusting" the demographics in the directions they want.

[ - ] BitterVeteran 1 point 2.6 yearsOct 15, 2021 10:44:38 ago (+1/-0)

Dude, no offense. But if you couldn't get passed this comment, then you shouldn't be out even trying to talk to anyone about a sensitive subject like this.

Fact: you're both idiots.

[ - ] account deleted by user 2 points 2.6 yearsOct 14, 2021 19:49:58 ago (+2/-0)

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[ - ] beece 2 points 2.6 yearsOct 14, 2021 19:42:47 ago (+2/-0)

I don't think the vax will kill you. I'm double vaxxed. Regardless, theres a shitload of funny business around this bullshit that is not explainable via normal logic.

[ - ] Garrett 2 points 2.6 yearsOct 14, 2021 21:27:21 ago (+2/-0)

i think that might be ancecdotal

[ - ] Flabbygasted 1 point 2.6 yearsOct 14, 2021 19:44:15 ago (+1/-0)

If you're still alive, you're just double placebo'd

[ - ] kishind 1 point 2.6 yearsOct 15, 2021 04:38:54 ago (+1/-0)

"You're right, what makes more sense is if these shots make your life a subscription service, even more than it is. Imagine if most of the people who take them have to be on blood thinners for the rest of their lives."

Never forget that you are not arguing a point, you are always arguing a narrative.

[ - ] account deleted by user 1 point 2.6 yearsOct 15, 2021 01:08:27 ago (+1/-0)

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[ - ] 3Whuurs 1 point 2.6 yearsOct 15, 2021 00:33:25 ago (+1/-0)

This isn’t a difficult one.

Debt is about control, not profit. So just ask him why Mao and Lenin chose to exterminate 150 million of their people instead of profiting off of them instead.


And 2nd, they didn’t make a vaccine that kills “you” in months, they made a vaccine that kills “some” in months and increases the healthcare costs of most of the rest by 10x after that.


[ - ] ShitsInHoneypots 1 point 2.6 yearsOct 14, 2021 22:15:53 ago (+1/-0)*

If you, and every other vaxxed person is dead, then they own your house by default.
The money isn't real. They made it up. Only the home has actual value.

[ - ] SilentByAssociation 1 point 2.6 yearsOct 14, 2021 22:09:56 ago (+1/-0)

Land and houses. If a mortgaged & vaxxed homeowner dies with no heirs or no family interested in keeping the house, just put it on the market. The executor of the will or even the mortgagee if it comes to it will sell, and not necessarily at market value. Certainly not if it's a foreclosure.

Blackstone (and other REITs) recently made headlines for buying up entire communities of SFRs, sometimes significantly above market value. Imagine the boomers and other unintelligent homeowners who got the clot-shot... dying in large numbers as corporations with deep pockets scoop up those homes that go on the market. There's nothing quite like a little neo-feudalism.

You will own nothing, and you'll be happy.

[ - ] PostWallHelena 1 point 2.6 yearsOct 14, 2021 21:30:42 ago (+1/-0)

You’re premise is wrong. They aren’t trying to kill us all off. They just don’t care if they kill a large number of us off.

They decided to experiment with geneticially engineered weaponized coronaviruses because they’re drunk with power and they don’t care. They probably accidentaly released covid but then said what the hay, let’s use this opportunity to launch our worldwide government biological compliance / social credit score system and also wall street can make 100 billion dollars and we can experiment on 5 billion guinea pigs with our neat new gene therapy tech.

A few different groups want different things out of this epidemic /vaccine shitshow and theyve collaborated for mutual benefit. They are just so drunk on power and money that they don’t care if this vaccine doesn’t work well, induces vaccine resistant strains thereby kicking the immunological can down the road, and will significantly sicken and maim around 5 or 10 percent and maybe ultimately kill as many peopl as the virus. They are broken window fallacy people. Which is the sort of thinking you can always expect from jews and othr opportunists.

I don’t believe they are playing 5d chess. I believe they are doing whatever seems like will benefit them most with no regard for the general welfare.

We are always trying to figure out —-What’s their long game? Do they have the next 20 moves mapped out? I don’t think so. They are just reliably opportunistic. Like niggers with 140 IQs. They do stupid shit that fucks up their host countries all the time. Then they kvetch and rend their clothes about having to move to some other country where they start it all over again. They don’t have a long game.

[ - ] oldblo 1 point 2.6 yearsOct 14, 2021 21:25:56 ago (+1/-0)

What makes you think its to kill you directly? The scenario of billions of non simultaneous deaths from the shot in a relatively short time span while possible has always been very implausible.

As for money its fucking worthless beyond its use to enslave the masses. If youre going to kill the masses in bulk you sure as hell dont need more of what you have obscene quantities of already.

[ - ] NaturalSelectionistWorker 1 point 2.6 yearsOct 14, 2021 21:18:23 ago (+1/-0)

It's possible that the vaccine wasn't made to kill you, but to make you sterile, passive, weak, sickly, or otherwise hurt you. If you turn into a docile slave, or become dependent on them for your survival to a much greater degree, is that better than death?

[ - ] noonefromnowhere 1 point 2.6 yearsOct 14, 2021 22:21:02 ago (+1/-0)

Or they just made a cheap shitty product and are selling it at the highest price their buddies in the government are willing to pay.

[ - ] deleted 1 point 2.6 yearsOct 14, 2021 20:49:06 ago (+1/-0)

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[ - ] Cantaloupe 1 point 2.6 yearsOct 14, 2021 20:41:55 ago (+1/-0)

Yes, yes they would.

Ask him if he knows anyone Vaxxed, and have the done an Immune System Platform Test.
The Vaxx destroys one's immune system, the result is AIDS. Also ask if they did the D-dimer test - it shows heart damage.

Covid and Climate Change (next up)


the crusade against climate change" is one giant con game meant to enrich a handful of kleptocrats here and now, while the nebulous benefits - and the all too certain debt and hyperinflation - of this revolutionary overhaul of the global economy are inherited by future generations, it's because that's precisely what it is.


And there you have it: just as covid was one giant smokescreen to "allow" central banks and Treasuries to merge and lead us to Helicopter Money and MMT, creating some $30 trillion in liquidity in the process, the "Net Zero" myth is what will perpetuate this endless printing for the next 30 years, a period during which the only benefits will be bestowed upon those who benefit from QE and money printing. That would be the richest. As for everyone else, well you great grandchildren or their grandchildren may (or may not) live in a cleaner world. We really don't know, but if we don't start printing money now it will be too late.

If that sounds scarier and more manipulative than any religion in human history, it's because it is.

[ - ] 3Whuurs 0 points 2.6 yearsOct 15, 2021 00:48:53 ago (+0/-0)

Do you know anyone that’s got the immune platform test post Vax?

[ - ] dassar 0 points 2.6 yearsOct 26, 2021 22:58:14 ago (+0/-0)*

There was a post on voat recently. It was of a post uploaded to one of the other social media sites.
Some doctor already working with a diabetic patient (iirc) - and whom was already going to get the jabs, agreed to do before and after IPT array at this doc's request. The doctor wanted some actual 'clinical data' so he could begin tracking the before and after clot effects in the population.

Bottom line and i cant remember the exact terminology . The patient was doing exceedingly well in changing his diabetic status and overall health beforehand and that was represented by his immune panel test showing really good markers/ numbers and being stable etc. His after test markers showed a decline all across the board. Indicative that his immune system had been severely disrupted and was now struggling ....
The doc pointed out that he need more ongoing data, so couldn't conclusively say anything except according to the test results 'something has definitely happened to cause the guys immune system to tank' and now he wants to know what and how....
EDIT; From memory there were several IPT arrays done post jab and they all became progressively worse. Nor was it a diabetic relapse as the doc made it clear the patient had not changed his lifestyle etc from since before the jabs when his diabeetus was in remission (not sure that's the correct term but eh!!) and the pre-jab IPT was really good .

[ - ] 3Whuurs 0 points 2.6 yearsOct 27, 2021 00:11:02 ago (+0/-0)

Ya I seen that post. It’s what sparked my interest in the idea.

[ - ] NeoNazirite 0 points 2.6 yearsOct 15, 2021 06:43:56 ago (+0/-0)

They don't want the money. They want the slave. They want you to have a mortgage so they can drive you to get the jab by threatening your income, threatening to throw you out on the street.

[ - ] deleted 0 points 2.6 yearsOct 15, 2021 00:12:56 ago (+0/-0)

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[ - ] mattsixteen24 0 points 2.6 yearsOct 14, 2021 23:39:24 ago (+0/-0)

What's his point though? We already have evidence of many people dying from the vaccine so doesn't excuse it. Plus, they are forcing it on people now. It is part of agenda.

Obviously it's not killing everyone immediately. I'm sure many people will live on in their old age, but whose to say that it won't make many people less likely to have kids, die of diseases later in life they would not of had, pass on genetic diseases to their offspring. It could be that the future generations will have more issues with being sterile. More people will have diseases in the future increasing big pharma profit in the future. I'm sure they already have the drugs to treat people with the diseases they created just like Covid.

[ - ] bobdole9 0 points 2.6 yearsOct 14, 2021 23:39:02 ago (+0/-0)

You don't pay your mortgage? Bank takes the property. Dead, jail, doesn't matter.

Bullshit. You're worth your assets, not your debts.

[ - ] ymihere 0 points 2.6 yearsOct 14, 2021 23:05:12 ago (+0/-0)

Well, if they die early, lenders get the house in hyper inflationary time and either (a) sell for more or (b) sell for less and take write down reducing tax impact but getting federal bailout money…and if you die in the long run, healthcare & system soaks you for all you have and they take your house…
It’s a win win for the Jews!

[ - ] TerryB 0 points 2.6 yearsOct 14, 2021 22:56:59 ago (+0/-0)

Their plan has always been to have a lot less people around. A clean planet for themselves. It takes a lot of effort and money to keep the bees busy and distracted. They don't need to anymore if they got rid of us. The cold war saw trillions of dollars funneled into secret programs to develop ai and robots so they don't need as many people around. The money we use is fake. They use real money which is silver and gold.

[ - ] Garrett 0 points 2.6 yearsOct 14, 2021 21:25:42 ago (+0/-0)

did he forget about 2008? they dont care if you cant pay your mortgage. they just want you in debt

[ - ] Thyhorrorcosmic103 0 points 2.6 yearsOct 14, 2021 20:35:49 ago (+0/-0)

It’s not about the money, its about power and control, goyim.

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[ - ] lord_nougat 0 points 2.6 yearsOct 14, 2021 20:17:37 ago (+0/-0)

It's probably not deadly, per se, provided once you've gotten it, you go back and get the 'booster' shots forevermore, on your own dime obviously. At least this scheme extracts maximum sheckels and keeps the host alive for long enough for PROFITS!

[ - ] Centaurus 0 points 2.6 yearsOct 14, 2021 20:15:34 ago (+0/-0)

They can print up money any time they need it. They don't fucking care about your mortgage payment anymore than they care about mom and pop stores going out of business. If you are dead they will eventually get all your shit, not just your mortgage payment.

[ - ] gimpyoldman 0 points 2.6 yearsOct 14, 2021 19:53:02 ago (+0/-0)

He'll be replaced by one of the Haitians or Afghans that aren't being vaxxed to pay that mortgage. Don't forget the origin of "mort gage" means death pledge.

[ - ] MarvintheRobot -1 points 2.6 yearsOct 15, 2021 00:14:26 ago (+0/-1)