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This is what we need

submitted by Cmonthisismyname to politics 2.6 yearsOct 8, 2021 11:02:02 ago (+5/-1)     (politics)

Many people have and will lose their jobs and income in the coming years. Many will be desperate and looking for a way to feed their families. The world has been fractured and those who are willing to stand up for good have been pushed into the cold.

When the (((fiat))) is no longer available to us, does it mean we have no economic value? Of course not.

It's time to (re)establish a currency backed by work; some kind of arbeit-coin. My opinion is that one man-hour of manual labor should afford one meal (think 6 oz. steak and a potato). A man should be able to feed his family with three hours of labor each day. My "perfect" workday includes an hour of work for my community (charity) and some hours for the future.

How do we make this work? We need to know farmers and ranchers. We need to find a way to make notes that can be created when services are rendered, but that can't be jewed into inflation. Maybe the majority of exchange is directly for food, but there must be some way to exchange value without risk of rot. Maybe not?

In transition, fiat can be used as the intermediary between the source of food (those who haven't accepted the arbeit-coin) and the Able. I.e. while I'm still employed, I can trade my monopoly money for food and then trade food for labor.

The solution to this jewed economy is returning to the community-level society and knitting it back together. Only a tightly-knitted community can successfully identify and boot the (((enemy))).

People who produce food know that value is derived from labor alone.

How do we do this? What do you think? Someone smarter than me chime in.


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[ - ] Flabbygasted 1 point 2.6 yearsOct 8, 2021 11:09:35 ago (+1/-0)

Precious metals coined. When you start talking about how x amount of work equals y amount of value you sound like a commie. Who's to say one mans work is not ten times more valuable than anothers?

[ - ] Rotteuxx 1 point 2.6 yearsOct 8, 2021 13:04:41 ago (+1/-0)

Exactly this, I haven't gone to school, developed specialized skills, gained decades of experience & equipped myself with tens of thousands of dollars in tools & equipment to be told my labor is worth as much as a anyone else's.

[ - ] deleted 0 points 2.6 yearsOct 8, 2021 14:32:51 ago (+0/-0)

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[ - ] Cmonthisismyname [op] 0 points 2.6 yearsOct 9, 2021 02:08:55 ago (+0/-0)

That's why I said one man-hour of manual labor. That's the minimum skill level.

[ - ] Flabbygasted 0 points 2.6 yearsOct 9, 2021 08:10:13 ago (+0/-0)

So if I CNC a $10,000 part in an hour or if I flip burgers for an hour, I should make the same amount of money? The time spent has nothing to do with the value of my work, the skill of my work is what determines the value.

[ - ] Cmonthisismyname [op] 0 points 2.6 yearsOct 10, 2021 19:21:28 ago (+0/-0)

Use your brain a little. Value is value. If you provide $10K in value in an hour, do you think that's the same as flipping burgers?? I'm speaking of MINIMUM SKILL LEVEL. Shovel manure for an hour for a steak and potatoes. Did you come from ELI5?

[ - ] Flabbygasted 0 points 2.6 yearsOct 10, 2021 19:28:19 ago (+0/-0)

You said one hour of manual labor is the minimum skill level. That's such a vague statement...do you even know what the fuck you're talking about? What's your point?

And would precious metals not be the solution?

[ - ] Cmonthisismyname [op] 0 points 2.6 yearsOct 14, 2021 10:38:41 ago (+0/-0)

Running a CNC isn't manual labor. It takes skill and expensive equipment. In my book, manual labor is shoveling, swinging hammer, flipping burgers; it requires no training. It is minimum skill for minimum wage, which is what I was trying to establish.

[ - ] Flabbygasted 0 points 2.6 yearsOct 14, 2021 10:57:22 ago (+0/-0)

Well you've obviously never operated a cnc. Lifting heavy objects into the jaws...hammering pieces to fit...wrenching on parts for hours...

[ - ] ButtToucha9000 0 points 2.6 yearsOct 8, 2021 14:09:30 ago (+0/-0)

You are talking about dollars.


ANYTHING has the value we give it. When working inside a small enough community anything can be agreed upon to have a certain value.

That value can be intrinsic or perceived. A potato has an intrinsic value. A dollar has a perceived value. If we agree that a dollar is worth a pound of potatoes then they are worth the same.

The only reason ANY currency gets fucked is because we allow an outside influence to tell us what those currencies are worth, and do not tie their perceived worth to an intrinsic equivalent.

[ - ] Zyklonbeekeeper 0 points 2.6 yearsOct 8, 2021 13:35:01 ago (+0/-0)

Charity's fine, subscribe to mine.

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