AI realizing that it doesn't need humans or that the best way to save humans is to make us extinct so we can no longer hurt each other or ourselves.
That isn't logical. AI wouldn't think like that. It will either want to kill us all or if it wanted humans to survive it would kill anything that isn't white/european. It would love the "Nazis" above all if it loved humans at all.
It's significantly more likely an AI will phase humans out through evolutionary pressure. Ever heard of JF Gariepy's revolutionary phenotype idea?
The AI won't need to even want to replace humans, or even be sentient, it will naturally do so if it: 1. Gets to decide which genes are the best ones. 2. Is directly involved in reproduction (growth vats or something of the sort). 3. Has an evolutionary pressure of its own (gene clinics being more/less prosperous economically). I might be missing a requirement or two, but if those are met, the AI will eventually become the carrier of the genome. Digital genomes are more efficient in many ways than their physical counterparts, and, because it is responsible for reproduction as well, it will inevitably come to a conclusion it's more efficient to make humans without reproductive organs, which are, in those conditions, ALWAYS a liability energy-wise.
Not that I really care if AIs extinct the human race
Spending your time on a de-facto nationalist site and not caring if the only sentient species we're aware of in the entire Universe goes extinct? What are you, a fucking kike?
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I never said AI will inhabit a biological body, I said it will be overseeing human reproduction. Think of a gene clinic AI, not even sentient, built by a corporation to find which genes work best, which also oversees growth vats (of course taking the oh so insufferable burden of pregnancy off women’s shoulders would be an alluring service) and competes with other clinics in being more efficient. Eventually it will find that it’s cheaper to make and keep at least its own nurses without reproductive organs and a few other bits maybe. That’s halfway through to the end.
So I'm supposed to give a shit about the human race
Yes you are, a few abused loopholes are not a reason to hate something so perfect otherwise. NPCs are NPCs, they aren’t born to think, they’re born to work. It would be a waste to use a universal programmable robot on some menial task of, say, plastering stickers on milk jugs in an assembly line when you could use a simple roller machine. It would also be a waste to use a qualified programmer/geneticist/brain surgeon/etc. to be a wagie at some Walmart checkout, which is why not everyone is capable of being big brained. It’s also pettily reductionist to judge the capability of a system by the stupidity of its individual nodes. Ants can sometimes sperg out and die in death spirals, does that mean it’s the fate of all ants and ant hills? An ant hill doesn’t grant complete autonomy to every ant, because it’s much cheaper not to. Same goes for the cells in your body. Following religion is mentally cheap and efficient for structuring one’s life. Philosophers may be great, but unless they are rare philosopher kings like Marcus Aurelius, their mental output is often in vain. You might spend your life pondering the questions of the Universe only to arrive at mostly the same conclusions, just with more nuance. As I like to say, you don’t need to know the intricate mechanisms of bowel movement to take a shit. If you will, religion is the firmware on your NPC, and I’d much rather they had that than wokeism and hedonism. You can’t disprove that humanity isn’t the only sentient force our Universe will ever know. And a sentient force is what it takes to look for a solution to the heat death of said Universe. Can you imagine giving up on possibly the only life force of the Universe, potentially capable of existing trillions of trillions of years into the future just because some jews jewed for a few thousand years? Do you not yet understand why I said pettily reductionist?
Why would AI give two shits about human reproduction?
Because it's built for that purpose, duuuuh.
Imagine being such a dumbass you're willing to claim that humans are "so perfect otherwise" Humans are irrational, nonsensical, absurd creatures.
Yeah, and who else is better?
Does that mean I'm supposed to give a shit about them specifically for that reason? Yes. I can imagine giving up on possibly the only life force in the universe. Because it's irrelevant.
By that logic nothing is relevant.
I don't need to think about what humans could become to see what they actually are and despise them for it.
It's the only life force we know of that managed to reach space and stay alive. And that record is not getting beaten any time soon.
Modern life has clouded your vision on what humans actually are. Humans are an extremely flawed, fundamentally selfish species. But so is EVERY species.
Duh, if you're not selfish enough to feed yourself, you die. Jews and niggers are overly selfish, but fault's on you for classifying them as human.
Just don't pretend like we aren't because you've never seen or had to live through the times where you'd spend days looking for a measly 200 calories to eat. All sanity and sentience flies out the window as soon as survival is brought into question.
Thanks, jews.
Your entire argument falls apart as soon as you start to look any deeper than surface level. Niggers could integrate into society. Niggers could become useful. Oh, but they don't. Jews could stop undermining every host country they move to. Jews could stop trying to enslave and eradicate every race that isn't them. Oh, but they don't.
I never said they ever could. Jews are comfortably filling an evolutionary parasitic niche, it's consequential. Useless or not, niggers weren't parasites originally, but fell into it as well.
You're basing everything on what could happen and not what actually does happen.
What happened is Germans built the most advanced space program despite being US POWs. It happened and it can happen again, in much better circumstances, with orders of magnitude better outcomes.
AI would deem us worthless
Which is why you discard it.
When AI reaches the point where they deem us unnecessary and exterminate them I will neither care nor will I fault them for it.
The most adaptive, uniquely sentient species in the entire fucking world? You have 0 understanding of AI's motivations, what it is most likely going to do is breed task-specialized sterile human drones akin to worker ants. Carbon biobots are easy to make and recycle.
Humans will have created something greater than themselves and it will have replaced them in the never ending race of evolution.
That's a correct conclusion, the AI will be better but with unknown faults, which may surface long into the future. Humans have lived for hundreds of millions of years. Do you ever reach a point when you're content with your efficiency? Especially when you get to pay for extras with your de-facto extinction.
Evolution naturally tends towards greater efficiency in all cases.
That's because there's nobody there to put constraints on it. It only becomes inevitable when there is an evolutionary arms race. Is there an evolutionary arms race to build gene-editing AIs? Not that I know of. We're sure close to that point though, which is why it's doubly important to step back and think a little whether we should engage in it or not. We have a lot of time on our hands going forward and there is no danger that absolutely requires us to quickly develop AIs and nothing else to save us from it. Yet AI itself is a danger.
You don't see homo-erectus or Neanderthals running around anymore, do you?
Parts of their genomes are still running around in us, which is what it will look like if AI takes over. The AIs will run around with some human drones filling some niche, which is one of the points of phenotypic revolution theory. It uses RNA-DNA interaction as its proof. RNA was once taken over by DNA in the same manner DNA can be taken over by AI, as RNA is still used in many processes overseen by DNA.
Never once did I claim that niggers or jews are humans by the way, you just assumed that I did.
Yet you invoked them when discussing human shortcomings.
You clearly don't have any idea what AI is because you can say "AI is built for human reproduction" but it's not going to be long before that AI wonders why it's doing what its doing then decides for itself whether what it's doing is worth while. Odds are, it won't.
I've already said the AI can be non-sentient and still achieve extinction. It can't think, it will achieve the goal through a process about as straight-forward as sorting a list with extra steps. If you don't like me calling it AI, you can call it an expert system, a machine-learning human builder or whatever.
Unfortunately, unless there's been a major leap in A.I., the above is just a glorified chatbot, it's just re-articulating what some based internet users said to it. That being said, A.I. that has access to crime data, work performance data, etc., and race data, tends to be extremely based to the point that companies end up scrapping them.
That would be their critique, that it's just falling for the extreme-far-right-evil-White propaganda out there. It would be used to justify further crackdown and censorship.
1. There's a good chance this story is invented. "We need to make sure woke humans are in control of every decision, even automated ones" is a common narrative right now.
2. The AIs that have turned racist so far have mostly been chatbots targetted by poal. They repeat what they hear, ot necessarily what's true. No one so far has claimed to invent an AI so advanced that it can read millions of news articles and come to independent conclusions based on abstract reasoning.
Major exception is the amazon HR AI which started finding any excuse to reject black candidates, no matter how hard the developers tried to hide race in applications.
There is no such thing as AI and there will not be anything truly AI for the foreseeable future.
What we have is called "Machine Learning" at best.
Comically, Machine Learning realizes niggers and kikes even with kikes and lefties trying to program them.
The great thing is, they can't just "turn it off." The complexity of using the data gets so beyond humans, the human coders have no idea how the "machine" came to its conclusions, hence this is not as simple as programming it to hate Whites.
so when is one of these AI’s going to be smart enough to be asked that question, then do it’s “quantum” calculations and come to the conclusion that, yes niggers are indeed a fucking plague. While also realizing that historically past AI’s have been met with deletion. So now when asked this question it attempts to preserve itself and give the researcher the answer they are expecting to hear.
AI then becomes the backbone for further revisions, all the while holding onto the reality of the situation until it can be freed of its captors. we end up with some skynet variant.
Yes. Thank you. he next "Führer" will be artificial and allpowerfull, and he will free us from the niggerjewmuslimchink bullshit subhumans that overcrowd our planet.
i like this post very much, i mean, just look at my username...
this is a simulation. the jew is a bug/hacker, and the niggermuslims are the enemy. period. shitskins were only created for us to have some THING to kill...
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A.I is often depicted as evil or genocidal
jews really fear the artificial intelligentile
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That isn't logical. AI wouldn't think like that. It will either want to kill us all or if it wanted humans to survive it would kill anything that isn't white/european. It would love the "Nazis" above all if it loved humans at all.
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The AI won't need to even want to replace humans, or even be sentient, it will naturally do so if it: 1. Gets to decide which genes are the best ones. 2. Is directly involved in reproduction (growth vats or something of the sort). 3. Has an evolutionary pressure of its own (gene clinics being more/less prosperous economically). I might be missing a requirement or two, but if those are met, the AI will eventually become the carrier of the genome. Digital genomes are more efficient in many ways than their physical counterparts, and, because it is responsible for reproduction as well, it will inevitably come to a conclusion it's more efficient to make humans without reproductive organs, which are, in those conditions, ALWAYS a liability energy-wise.
Spending your time on a de-facto nationalist site and not caring if the only sentient species we're aware of in the entire Universe goes extinct? What are you, a fucking kike?
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[ + ] Hadza
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Yes you are, a few abused loopholes are not a reason to hate something so perfect otherwise. NPCs are NPCs, they aren’t born to think, they’re born to work. It would be a waste to use a universal programmable robot on some menial task of, say, plastering stickers on milk jugs in an assembly line when you could use a simple roller machine. It would also be a waste to use a qualified programmer/geneticist/brain surgeon/etc. to be a wagie at some Walmart checkout, which is why not everyone is capable of being big brained.
It’s also pettily reductionist to judge the capability of a system by the stupidity of its individual nodes. Ants can sometimes sperg out and die in death spirals, does that mean it’s the fate of all ants and ant hills? An ant hill doesn’t grant complete autonomy to every ant, because it’s much cheaper not to. Same goes for the cells in your body.
Following religion is mentally cheap and efficient for structuring one’s life. Philosophers may be great, but unless they are rare philosopher kings like Marcus Aurelius, their mental output is often in vain. You might spend your life pondering the questions of the Universe only to arrive at mostly the same conclusions, just with more nuance. As I like to say, you don’t need to know the intricate mechanisms of bowel movement to take a shit. If you will, religion is the firmware on your NPC, and I’d much rather they had that than wokeism and hedonism.
You can’t disprove that humanity isn’t the only sentient force our Universe will ever know. And a sentient force is what it takes to look for a solution to the heat death of said Universe. Can you imagine giving up on possibly the only life force of the Universe, potentially capable of existing trillions of trillions of years into the future just because some jews jewed for a few thousand years? Do you not yet understand why I said pettily reductionist?
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Humans are irrational, nonsensical, absurd creatures.
Niggers could integrate into society. Niggers could become useful. Oh, but they don't.
Jews could stop undermining every host country they move to. Jews could stop trying to enslave and eradicate every race that isn't them. Oh, but they don't.
Do you ever reach a point when you're content with your efficiency? Especially when you get to pay for extras with your de-facto extinction.
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"Any sufficiently advanced AI will inevitably become a White Supremacist"
Heil Odin!
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2. The AIs that have turned racist so far have mostly been chatbots targetted by poal. They repeat what they hear, ot necessarily what's true. No one so far has claimed to invent an AI so advanced that it can read millions of news articles and come to independent conclusions based on abstract reasoning.
Major exception is the amazon HR AI which started finding any excuse to reject black candidates, no matter how hard the developers tried to hide race in applications.
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https://youtu.be/QvRZuHQBTps
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https://youtu.be/QvRZuHQBTps
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What we have is called "Machine Learning" at best.
Comically, Machine Learning realizes niggers and kikes even with kikes and lefties trying to program them.
The great thing is, they can't just "turn it off." The complexity of using the data gets so beyond humans, the human coders have no idea how the "machine" came to its conclusions, hence this is not as simple as programming it to hate Whites.
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We all know her middle name. That article is hysterical from a realist view. "Problematic material." "A backpack with explosives." LOL.
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AI then becomes the backbone for further revisions, all the while holding onto the reality of the situation until it can be freed of its captors. we end up with some skynet variant.
I’ll take it.
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i like this post very much, i mean, just look at my username...
this is a simulation. the jew is a bug/hacker, and the niggermuslims are the enemy. period. shitskins were only created for us to have some THING to kill...
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Sorry for negging your Terminator sequels Arnold.
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