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If you take or plan to take Ivermectin, make sure to take ALA (Alpha Lipoic Acid) at the same time.

submitted by breh to whatever 3.7 yearsSep 6, 2021 03:13:52 ago (+19/-1)     (whatever)

Pro-Vaxxers are rejoicing over finding a study on rats that indicates injected ivermectin can possibly negatively affect male fertility, and they are leaving out the bit about how to completely eliminate the effect.

Summary: This study was conducted to evaluate the effects of ivermectin (IVM) with therapeutic dose (injected with 0.56 mg/kg b.wt.) either alone or combined with alpha lipoic acid (ALA) (50 mg/kg b.wt daily) on expression of testicular insulin-like growth factor binding protein-3 (IGFBP-3) and heat-shock protein A1 (HSPA1)) genes in the testes, as well as on male rat fertility parameters. Results revealed that expression levels of IGFBP-3 and HSPA1 were significantly increased in testis of the IVM-treated group relative to the control group. Furthermore, injection of ivermectin showed a significant decrease in serum testosterone level, sperm count, motility %, live sperm% and index weight of reproductive organs, and a significant increase in sperm abnormalities. Moreover, IVM induced oxidative stress and pathological alterations in the testes. Meanwhile, the administration of ALA with IVM prevented testicular damage and improved all previous parameters. We concluded that ivermectin has undesirable effects on male fertility and altered expression of IGFBP-3 and HSPA1 genes in the testes, while the administration of alpha lipoic acid can ameliorate the adverse effects of ivermectin.

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/and.12891


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[ - ] beece 2 points 3.7 yearsSep 6, 2021 09:42:37 ago (+2/-0)

Remember to manipulate the Mg to Kg ratio if you get some farm store pills. That is, a 1250 lb horse gets a huge dose (as a dewormer), you need to be cutting those pills up. Even if you go to the doctor, they always weigh you as a 300 lb person gets a bigger dose of almost all drugs than a 100 lb person.

[ - ] account deleted by user 2 points 3.7 yearsSep 6, 2021 09:09:40 ago (+2/-0)

account deleted by user

[ - ] NeoNazirite 0 points 3.7 yearsSep 6, 2021 09:14:16 ago (+1/-1)

Attempting relief from this vax-flu going around.

[ - ] we_kill_creativity 0 points 3.7 yearsSep 6, 2021 09:54:48 ago (+2/-2)

But that's retarded. It's not even a particularly bad cold or flu season. I mean, if it helps with the common cold and you want to, that's fine, but why would we make posts assuming large numbers of people are going to because of a fairly mild cold?

[ - ] NeoNazirite 0 points 3.7 yearsSep 6, 2021 09:58:56 ago (+1/-1)

assuming large numbers
go try to find some ivermectin on the shelf.

It isn't retarded. What's retarded is how you numbskulls double-down on your belief that people aren't actually getting sick.

You have lost your mind.

[ - ] we_kill_creativity 0 points 3.7 yearsSep 6, 2021 10:14:16 ago (+2/-2)

Stop being such an obvious bot...bad bot...

People get sick all the time. No one's claiming they aren't. It's just obvious that the vax didn't work on a large enough percentage of people to get us to accept your devil's premise of some gigantic "pandemic", so now you've switched to IvErMeCtIn!!!" and we're all on to that too...just stop, it's merely annoying and won't work just like the vax didn't work. No one gives a shit about your fake pandemic dude...

[ - ] NeoNazirite 1 point 3.7 yearsSep 6, 2021 10:19:53 ago (+2/-1)

no, you stupid faggot. quit connecting dots that aren't there.

Hospitals aren't treating people for sickness like they always have. They say you have covid and send you home to hopefully die. Leaving you to find treatment on your own.

It's not that hard to figure out.

[ - ] mongre 1 point 3.7 yearsSep 6, 2021 10:33:41 ago (+1/-0)

Looks like we found out where all that cool-aid went!

[ - ] NeoNazirite 0 points 3.7 yearsSep 6, 2021 10:37:57 ago (+0/-0)

yikes, bro.

[ - ] i_scream_trucks 0 points 3.7 yearsSep 6, 2021 20:38:01 ago (+0/-0)

faggot, colds and flu didnt just stop because someone started calling it covid.

colds and flu happen

people do die from the flu

ivermectin stops people dying from flu

but you fucking knew that.

[ - ] NeoNazirite 0 points 3.7 yearsSep 6, 2021 20:54:36 ago (+0/-0)

yes, that's what I've been saying.

[ - ] i_scream_trucks 0 points 3.7 yearsSep 6, 2021 20:36:55 ago (+0/-0)

because it means the jabs and mandates are illegal fucktard.

[ - ] ReincarnatedGoat 0 points 3.7 yearsSep 8, 2021 17:33:50 ago (+0/-0)

So does ivermectin help with the regular cold / flu?

[ - ] NeoNazirite 0 points 3.7 yearsSep 8, 2021 17:38:53 ago (+0/-0)

I don't know, but if I was suffering I might try it.
I've never had the flu, and I don't think I've had a cold since I was a kid.

[ - ] bobdole9 1 point 3.7 yearsSep 6, 2021 08:23:37 ago (+1/-0)

@PostWallHelena, does the above check out? I know you're a COVID nerd.

[ - ] PostWallHelena 1 point 3.7 yearsSep 6, 2021 16:04:43 ago (+1/-0)

Fuck I answered you but then got logged off. It looks legit but I don’t have accesss to the full paper, only the abstract. Doesn’t surprise me that it causes some free radical damage. If you are still thinking about having kids, you might not need to take IVM prophylactically. That’s something that makes more sense for people over 45 or 50. For older guys, is it worth it to lose a little T but gain protection from covid? Possibly.

If you’re only taking it for 5 ays to combat covid, then who cares if your T drops for a few weeks. I doubt it would have permanent effect on fertility. They would have discovered that by now with livestock. Right now some docs are using avodart on covid patients to surpress androgens since they increase ACE2 expression or TMPRSS2 or some shit like that. So the T surpression may be beneficial for the short term.

[ - ] i_scream_trucks 0 points 3.7 yearsSep 6, 2021 20:38:47 ago (+0/-0)

why would you need IV ivermectin?

thats not how its being doled out.

what the fuck is this shit.

[ - ] i_scream_trucks 0 points 3.7 yearsSep 6, 2021 20:36:22 ago (+0/-0)

pro vaxxers are brain dead retarded

[ - ] NosebergShekelman 0 points 3.7 yearsSep 6, 2021 12:55:57 ago (+0/-0)

I shouldn't tell you goytards this because I could get into trouble, but, you probably should use the hog dose. Not horse. Shaloms💎✡️

[ - ] i_scream_trucks 0 points 3.7 yearsSep 6, 2021 20:39:27 ago (+0/-0)

or you could use the CDC dosage which would be 200mcg/kg once a day for 2 days. your only buddies who are getting in trouble are the ones that leaked that afghani refugees are being dosed with Ivermectin before the come to the US.

fuck outta here.

[ - ] StealthNinjaTaliban 0 points 3.7 yearsSep 6, 2021 10:53:26 ago (+0/-0)

Where did you buy your ivermectin?

[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 3.7 yearsSep 6, 2021 15:52:32 ago (+0/-0)*

Are you in the US?

Looks like its back in stock on Amazon

Ivercare 1500 lbs (135 mg total) for $38 https://www.amazon. com/gp/product/B004UR3Q28?smid=A2GCMVTUD57YWW&psc=1

Duramectin 3x 1250 lbs (~340 mg tot) $100 https://www.amazon. com/Durvet-Duramectin-Equine-Wormer-Paste/dp/B01EP4TPO8/ref=dp_fod_1?pd_rd_i=B01EP4TPO8&psc=1

Zimecterin 1250 lbs (113 mg) $23 https://www.amazon. com/RJ-matthews-Merial-Zimecterin-Dewormers/dp/B0098PBDYA/ref=pd_sim_10/144-9736091-9259042?pd_rd_w=Q7vqd&pf_rd_p=6caf1c3a-a843-4189-8efc-81b67e85dc96&pf_rd_r=R4YGMM3EV0CRRSSXGY0A&pd_rd_r=a50f59f5-c762-4d16-adc2-45af3e23dac3&pd_rd_wg=eT0Og&pd_rd_i=B0098PBDYA&psc=1

There is also bimectin. All basically the same product. 1.87% oral paste which is dosed by the pound at 1 mg per pound (.2mg /kg.) and you can measure doses to the nearest 4.5 mg. Avoid products with praziquantel or pour-ons.

You can also try Tractor Supply which might have better prices.

You could try something like this

Durvet injectible ivermectin 1% (2500mg) $80 https://www.tractorsupply. com/tsc/product/durvet-ivermectin-injection-1-sterile-solution-250-ml?cm_vc=-10005

Which can be used orally if you can meassure accurately to the nearest 1/2 ml or so with an eyedropper, pipette or something like that. A little more bang for the buck .

If you take it for prophylaxis you might use around 15 to 40 mg per week? If you had covid you might take a similar amount per day for 5 days or so? One tube of horsepaste might be enough to get you through covid but you might want two just in case. Current recommendation from the FLCCC for symptomatic covid is 0.4 mg /kg to 0.6mg/kg, which is 2 to 3 times the dose on the plunger for the horse paste. I would go with 2x, so 150 lb person would take the 300 lb dose at that regimen.