She said lawmakers will, when the session resumes, vote on the pro-abortion bill known as the “Women’s Health Protection Act.” According to National Review, the bill would “establish a federal right to abortion through all nine months of pregnancy if a single doctor asserted the abortion was necessary to protect the mental and emotional health of a woman seeking an abortion.”
Notice how
physical health is not the goal here. Basically a woman finds the right doctor and tada abortion approved!
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[ + ] Cunt
[ - ] Cunt 0 points 3.7 yearsSep 6, 2021 06:13:42 ago (+0/-0)
If you were to murder your rapist weeks after the rape, you would get jail time.
If you were to murder the rapist's newborn baby, weeks after the rape because the baby reminded you of the rapist, you would get jail.
The "product of rape" as they say, is an innocent baby. Yes pregnancy can be hard, and even life threatening in shitty places and shitty circumstances, and that is shitty but no excuse for pre-emptive murder of a baby (there is a thing called Triage that covers life threatening pregnancies).
You don't have the right to be a piece of shit to a baby because it's dad was a piece of shit toward you.
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[ + ] La_Chalupacabra
[ - ] La_Chalupacabra 4 points 3.7 yearsSep 5, 2021 22:14:13 ago (+4/-0)
No more gasoline from those Texas refineries, then, I guess.
Good luck with that!
Also, there's nothing in the Texas bill preventing them from moving to an abortion-friendly state.
I'm sure California would be happy to take them in.
[ + ] PotatoWhisperer
[ - ] PotatoWhisperer 0 points 3.7 yearsSep 6, 2021 09:38:16 ago (+0/-0)
Do you think the jews in charge of the Rinos would allow that?
[ + ] Steelerfish
[ - ] Steelerfish 0 points 3.7 yearsSep 6, 2021 10:00:12 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Empire_of_the_Mind
[ - ] Empire_of_the_Mind 5 points 3.7 yearsSep 5, 2021 23:54:11 ago (+5/-0)
In practice this ignores that there is a second person who is connected to that growing baby - the father. Because the law holds a father legally responsible for the baby it essentially confers a degree of /ownership/ to the non-biologically-custodial parent. With that established, he would then have claim over the "organ" that happens to be located physically inside of the woman. If women wish to get rid of this right, they are going to have to relinquish legal responsibility after birth. This is the best angle of attack on the "my body my choice" argument and one that is winnable.
A proper idea is to pass a law requiring a signature from both parents authorizing termination of a pregnancy. In the event that the father is not identified, an officer of the community can be appointed to determine the necessity of carrying the pregnancy. This provides a serious disincentive for women to get pregnant to people they don't know, because then they'll be subject to state law (which will be like Texas, rigidly against termination). In the case that the father opposes termination the mother has the right to relinquish her similar legal "ownership" of the baby, making it his complete responsibility upon birth. Finally, these decisions should be rendered publicly. If a woman and a man decide to terminate a pregnancy, that would be announced similar to marriage, births, and deaths.
This is how these questions would be handled in a mature, honest, responsible society. If you wish to push back on women arguing about abortion rights, present these issues because they are not equipped to respond to them. All of these approaches ultimately return to the most important piece of this all - they incentivize women to be sexually responsible. This is what roasties most fear, and this is what society most needs.
tl;dr: focus on the the fact that if a woman has the right to terminate a pregnancy, the father must also have that right, otherwise both need to be able to relinquish legal claim to the baby at birth, ie child support. this is a legally sound approach and their opposition to it will expose thier position every time.
[ + ] v0atmage
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Also, are you the real Tallest_skil?
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