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Need sources for vax facts

submitted by frankenham to AskUpgoat 3.7 yearsAug 28, 2021 23:04:37 ago (+8/-0)     (AskUpgoat)

Need to redpill girlfriend on the vaccine. Sources and citations to show her would be nice


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[ - ] s23erdctfvyg 3 points 3.7 yearsAug 28, 2021 23:28:13 ago (+3/-0)

I don't have them on me, but as people are grabbing the data they have on hand, here's a few good ones to also grab.
CDC admitted they can't differentiate between covid and the flu.
CDC admitted that the test cycles they were using on the PCR test were too high, and were generating false positives.
CDC has asked hospitals to stop using PCR for testing, which means the only way to determine if someone has covid, is to go based on the symptoms, which are identical to the flu.
CDC admitted that almost all "covid deaths" had comorbidities, many of which included car accidents, gun shots, etc.
CDC admitted the flu disappeared in 2020.

The vaccine does not prevent you from getting covid.
The vaccine does not prevent you from spreading covid.
The vaccine does no reduce symptoms of covid.
The vaccine, along with it's own side effects, may make covid symptoms worse.
The vaccine is not a vaccine, it's an experimental gene "therapy".
Despite all of the above, if you don't get the vaccine, you will lose your job.
I.E. You are forced to get it or else, which of course proves the insidious nature of both the vax and its creators.

The criminals history of all the companies producing the vaccine, which is massive.

Logic, reasoning, overwhelming evidence, and you're own personal concerns about her health may not be enough to convince her, as most people that will wake about the vax up are already awake. If it's not enough, tell her that you will break up with her if she gets it. Hopefully the emotional pressure combined with the instinctual loss of losing her protector will be enough to convince her otherwise.

[ - ] derpfroot 2 points 3.7 yearsAug 29, 2021 01:18:46 ago (+2/-0)

A few links for what you mentioned...
"Due to the ongoing COVID-19 pandemic, this system will suspend data collection for the 2020-21 influenza season."
https://archive.is/l4A5d#selection-1111.0-1111.112
So the flu is gone? WTF?

The shot doesn't work:
https://archive.is/WvuNv

CDC Admits Holocough-Vaxxed at Greater Risk of "Severe Disease"
https://files.catbox.moe/zflw3i.mp4

and now over a year later:
https://www.cdc.gov/csels/dls/locs/2021/07-21-2021-lab-alert-Changes_CDC_RT-PCR_SARS-CoV-2_Testing_1.html
In preparation for this change, CDC recommends clinical laboratories and testing sites that have been using the CDC 2019-nCoV RT-PCR assay select and begin their transition to another FDA-authorized COVID-19 test. CDC encourages laboratories to consider adoption of a multiplexed method that can facilitate detection and differentiation of SARS-CoV-2 and influenza viruses. Such assays can facilitate continued testing for both influenza and SARS-CoV-2 and can save both time and resources as we head into influenza season. Laboratories and testing sites should validate and verify their selected assay within their facility before beginning clinical testing.

Translation: Labs, please stop using the PCR tests to test for Covid. Turns out they can't tell Covid from the Flu. Use some other tests instead. BTW, we haven't verified that those work any better, so you're on your own there too

[ - ] derpfroot 1 point 3.7 yearsAug 29, 2021 01:27:27 ago (+1/-0)

Also...
https://www.fda.gov/media/150386/download

On pages 3 it mentions how they got the "95% effective" number...


"FDA’s analysis of the available efficacy data from 36,523 participants 12 years of age and older without evidence of SARS-CoV-2 infection prior to 7 days after dose 2 confirmed the vaccine was 95% effective in preventing COVID-19 occurring at least 7 days after the second dose."


So as long as the test subject didn't have the coof <7 days of their 2nd shot, it was counted as successful. They weren't exposed to it and didn't get it, they just didn't have it <7 days of their 2nd shot. So they could've been asked to stay home for a week for all we know.

[ - ] s23erdctfvyg 0 points 3.7 yearsAug 29, 2021 02:43:26 ago (+0/-0)

Thank you.

[ - ] Ubermensch 1 point 3.7 yearsAug 29, 2021 03:56:18 ago (+1/-0)

also and this :

Over 11,000 people have died shortly after receiving the COVID19 vaccine: https://archive.ph/U0CZc

Facemasks are ineffective against COVID19 and can actually be harmful to your health: https://web.archive.org/web/20210611101643/https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/04/stanford-study-results-facemasks-ineffective-block-transmission-covid-19-actually-can-cause-health-deterioration-premature-death/

None of the COVID19 vaccines are really effective: https://web.archive.org/web/20210530035431/https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanmic/article/PIIS2666-5247%2821%2900069-0/fulltext

Minnesota Woman Loses Both Legs and Both Hands Following Second Pfizer COVID-19 Shot: https://web.archive.org/web/20210724074820/https://healthimpactnews.com/2021/minnesota-woman-loses-both-legs-and-both-hands-following-second-pfizer-covid-19-shot/

The survival rate of COVID-19 is 99.973% (and higher if you take out influenza a and b fake death): https://archive.is/ps6mZ


[ - ] 2Drunk 2 points 3.7 yearsAug 28, 2021 23:44:30 ago (+2/-0)

My frankenham, what big nose you have!

[ - ] frankenham [op] 1 point 3.7 yearsAug 29, 2021 01:24:10 ago (+1/-0)

..? why

[ - ] TheLastStraightMan 0 points 3.7 yearsAug 28, 2021 23:45:22 ago (+0/-0)

You don't redpill your fucking girlfriend you nerd. If she doesn't trust your guidance the relationship is doomed.

[ - ] s23erdctfvyg 1 point 3.7 yearsAug 29, 2021 02:42:16 ago (+1/-0)

You redpill your women so in the event of your untimely death, they can teach your sons and daughters what is actually happening. We aren't immortal, don't lie to yourself that you are.

[ - ] AttilaHitler 0 points 3.7 yearsAug 28, 2021 23:59:15 ago (+0/-0)

Paging CANCEL_VAX_FAX

[ - ] enormousatom 0 points 3.7 yearsAug 29, 2021 00:52:19 ago (+0/-0)

Ivmmeta.com

[ - ] Ubermensch 0 points 3.7 yearsAug 29, 2021 03:49:03 ago (+0/-0)

List of 30 studies showing face masks are useless against COVID-19
[increases it slightly!]

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.05.18.21257385v1.full-text

https://swprs.org/face-masks-evidence/

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29395560/

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32590322/

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/15340662/

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26579222/

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31159777/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4420971/

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.01.20049528v1

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.03.30.20047217v2

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMp2006372

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2749214

https://www.cmaj.ca/content/188/8/567

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5779801/

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19216002/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4420971/

https://academic.oup.com/cid/article/65/11/1934/4068747

https://www.jstage.jst.go.jp/article/bio/23/2/23_61/_pdf/-char/en

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/BF01658736

https://www.journalofhospitalinfection.com/article/0195-6701(91)90148-2/pdf90148-2/pdf)

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2493952/pdf/annrcse01509-0009.pdf

https://www.nap.edu/catalog/25776/rapid-expert-consultation-on-the-effectiveness-of-fabric-masks-for-the-covid-19-pandemic-april-8-2020

https://www.nap.edu/read/25776/chapter/1#6

https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/5/19-0994_article

https://academic.oup.com/annweh/article/54/7/789/202744

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6599448/

https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/M20-1342

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00392-020-01704-y

https://clinmedjournals.org/articles/jide/journal-of-infectious-diseases-and-epidemiology-jide-6-130.php?jid=jide

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1130147308702355

https://web.archive.org/web/20200717141836/https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2020/04/commentary-masks-all-covid-19-not-based-sound-data

[ - ] Clot_shot_dodger 0 points 3.7 yearsAug 29, 2021 03:55:56 ago (+0/-0)

Check childrens healtb defense. Articles are most precise and rfk has a good rep.

[ - ] LoliNeko 0 points 3.7 yearsAug 29, 2021 05:38:01 ago (+0/-0)

I've made a post on these before: https://www.voat.xyz/viewpost.php?postid=60c9c704cf209

1) Non-Pharmaceutical Interventions (NPIs) such as lockdowns, masks and social distancing don't provide clear benefits, as analyzed across 16 countries by Stanford University: "After subtracting the epidemic and lrNPI effects, we find no clear, significant beneficial effect of mrNPIs on case growth in any country." (https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/epdf/10.1111/eci.13484 ). This can be also be observed in Sweden and Wisconsin, USA.

2) Asymptomatic people, by definition, are unable to spread CoViD-19 as reported by a study of almost 10 million people in Wuhan by Nature: "There were no positive tests amongst 1,174 close contacts of asymptomatic cases." (https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-020-19802-w )

3) Masks don't work when the virus is far smaller than the perforations in the masks' fabric, as studied among 4862 participants in Denmark by the Annals of Internal Medicine: "Infection with SARS-CoV-2 occurred in 42 participants recommended masks (1.8%) and 53 control participants (2.1%)." (https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/M20-6817 )

4) The RT-PCR test generates a lot of false positives, as much as 30% on a Cycle Threshold (Ct) value of 25, and up to 97% at Ct=35! Only 3% of positive cases actually have the virus within them cultured successfully at Ct=35. Testing centres globally have reported that their PCR tests are run at cycle thresholds of 35 to 40! The number of positive cases isn't clear-cut as it can be arbitrarily tuned by the Ct sensitivity, as reported by Oxford's Clinical Infectious Diseases from 3790 samples: "It can be observed that at Ct = 25, up to 70% of patients remain positive in culture and that at Ct = 30 this value drops to 20%. At Ct = 35, the value we used to report a positive result for PCR, <3% of cultures are positive." (https://academic.oup.com/cid/advance-article/doi/10.1093/cid/ciaa1491/5912603 ). This is also verified in an interview with Dr Anthony Fauci, who is the Chief Medical Advisor to President Joe Biden: "If you get [perform the test at] a cycle threshold of 35 or more…the chances of it being replication-confident [aka accurate] are minuscule, you almost never can culture virus [detect a true positive result] from a 37 threshold cycle, even 36" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_Vy6fgaBPE&feature=youtu.be&t=260 )

5) 94% of people who died of CoViD were already suffering from other diseases, with an average of 2.6 comorbidities, as reported by CDC in USA: "Table 3 shows the types of health conditions and contributing causes mentioned in conjunction with deaths involving coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19). For 6% of the deaths, COVID-19 was the only cause mentioned. For deaths with conditions or causes in addition to COVID-19, on average, there were 2.6 additional conditions or causes per death." (https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm?fbclid=IwAR3-wrg3tTKK5-9tOHPGAHWFVO3DfslkJ0KsDEPQpWmPbKtp6EsoVV2Qs1Q )

6) The death rate (Infection Fatality Ratio, IFR) has been revised downwards several times in light of new data. The elderly are the most affected, and kids the least affected, thus there is no need to close schools:

a) March 30, The Lancet Vol 20 - 0.66% ( https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099 (20)30243-7/fulltext )
b) April 30, University of Pennsylvania Medical Center - 0.25% (https://www.pennlive.com/news/2020/04/umpc-argues-covid-19-not-as-deadly-as-feared-says-its-hospitals-will-shift-back-to-normal.html )
c) May 3, International Journal of Infectious Diseases Vol 101 - 0.68% (https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33007452/ )
d) May 24, CDC USA - 0.25% (https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/planning-scenarios.html )

7) Over 58000 medical scientists and practitioners in developed countries have signed the "Great Barrington Declaration" against lockdowns, masks and social distancing, which states: "Those who are not vulnerable should immediately be allowed to resume life as normal. Simple hygiene measures, such as hand washing and staying home when sick should be practiced by everyone to reduce the herd immunity threshold. Schools and universities should be open for in-person teaching. Extracurricular activities, such as sports, should be resumed. Young low-risk adults should work normally, rather than from home. Restaurants and other businesses should open. Arts, music, sport and other cultural activities should resume. People who are more at risk may participate if they wish, while society as a whole enjoys the protection conferred upon the vulnerable by those who have built up herd immunity." (https://gbdeclaration.org/ )

[ - ] eongoat 0 points 3.7 yearsAug 29, 2021 10:28:27 ago (+0/-0)

There's no liability. If anything goes wrong, pharma is blameless. number 1 red flag for me.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK216813/

"The key portion of section 402A states:

One who sells any product in a defective condition unreasonably dangerous to the user or consumer or to his property is subject to liability for physical harm thereby caused to the ultimate user or consumer"

I believe they've gotten around these pesky states laws in the U.S. by selling to the GOVERNMENT and having them distribute it for 'free' or as emergency use only. Look at their stock prices for the last 3 years and see if you can figure out when COVID19 happened....Here's the stock tickers for the 'popular' brands: MRNA, PFE, JNJ, AZN

Currently there are 22 brands of COVID19 'vax' granted emergency use by national regulatory authorities, but not all are available where you live.
There are 4 types;

RNA/DNA vaccine (these I would not consider a vaccine because they do not follow the definition of it) - This is also the one where you see people dying in huge numbers for a 'vax' or having motor control function issues, etc. Contains a toxic delivery system (graphene-oxide) so the mRNA doesn't fall apart if you breath on it funny. (aka it's fragile). These are definitely experimental and I highly recommend to avoid these at all costs.
Companies: Pfizer-BioNTech, Moderna, ZyCoV-D
Adenovirus vector vaccines - a viral vector to deliver genetic material coding for a desired antigen into the recipient's host cells. Has been previously used for MERS, Nipha, malaria, Zika virus. Janssen version uses serotype 26. uses spike proteins, and If I recall correctly, could cause permanent heart damage.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32731257/
Companies: Oxford-AstraZeneca, Janssen (J&J), Sputnik V, Sputnik Light, Convidecia
Inactivated virus vaccines - consisting of virus particles, bacteria, or other pathogens that have been grown in culture and then killed to destroy disease producing capacity. Virus is killed using heat, radiation or chemicals, like formaldehyde. for some bacteria and fungi they can also produce ghost vaccine (cell envelopes emptied of contents) of the bacteria or fungi while maintaining antigenicity. produces a weaker response from the immune system and thus booster shots may be needed to get proper immune response. Attenuated (living but weakened) vaccine is for healthy individuals and is typically safe and effective. Elderly or those with immunodeficiency need an inactivated (dead) vaccine instead. For Polio, an Inactive vaccine was used.
Companies: Sinopharm (BBIBP), CoronaVac, Covaxin, Sinopharm (WIBP),
Subunit vaccine - contains purified parts of the pathogen that are antigenic, or necessary to elicit a protective immune response. Contains pieces of a pathogen which are antigenic (proteins, polysaccharides or peptides). No risk of getting disease, and is safer and more stable than attenuated vaccines. These are complex to manufacture and may also require booster shots, and time to examine which antigenic combos work. minimal side effects due to limited immune system interaction with pathogen.
Companies: EpiVacCorona, ZF2001, Abdala, Soberana 02, Medigen (MVC)

There are different variations of the 4 types, but I won't list that.

In the U.S., Inactivated virus and Subunit vaccines are NOT available, same with pretty much the rest of Europe and Australia (the west). IF I was to take one, just from my preliminary research I would probably choose a Subunit type. It is not an option where I live.

[ - ] Ragnar -1 points 3.7 yearsAug 29, 2021 10:40:13 ago (+0/-1)

Dump her

[ - ] WTFisthisshit 0 points 3.7 yearsAug 29, 2021 22:52:59 ago (+0/-0)