ADE (antibody dependent enhancement) has been observed to occur in basically every coronavirus thats been studied. It is when the antibody your body produces to attack a virus accidentally helps it infect a macrophage (immune cell) which spreads the virus everywhere. Its bad. Under the right conitions for ADE, you are worse off having a previous immunity then if you are having no immunity at all.
It happens if the immunized person has too low a number of anitbodies and also if the person has the wrong kind of antibody (one that is from a different strain of the virus) or a combination of both.
If you get the vaccine, over time you will produce lower numbers of antibodies (too low). Over time the virus will evolve into a new strain like delta and your antibodies will be a bad fit (wrong kind). Children and household members who have inhaled low amounts of spike protein from recently vaxed people will also build low amounts of antibodies (of the wrong kind). So they are likely to have both problems: not enough antibodies, wrong kind of antibodies.
So assume that some of people becoming sick with covid now are people experiencing ADE such as children wilth vaxed parents, younger age groups who were unlikely to have gotten severe illness at the beginning of the epidemic, vaccinated old people with rapid progression of disease.
They can tell if ADE is a factor by performing autopsies on covid fatalities but they aren’t doing that — because they are trying to hide it, of course.
People who have been vaccinated will be on the hook theoretically to get boosters ad infinitem to increase their antibody levels and induce antibodies with higher affinity to new variants. Lest they fall into the high risk “non-neutralizing immunity” zone for ADE. So they are telling old people to get a third jab of the vax. Its the wrong kind of antibody (low affinity for delta) but they hope it will make up for that by raising the quantity of antibodies. Its basically doubling down on a bad strategy.
There may be some other disorders caused by the vaxx including Multisystem Inflamatory syndrome (MIS-C/MIS-A) and Mast Cell Activation Syndrome (MCAS) which also may be induced by vaccines as well as covid which I feel less confident discussing at this point, and some of this shit may be overlapping problems.
Just FYI for those who need more explanation than “that shit fucks up your immune system”
Edit: I mean, arguably big pharma understood all this from the get-go and have now created a few billion sure-fire repeat customers. 100 billion dollars a year for a pretty cheaply manufactured product. Its printing money.
Keep the kids away from recently vaxed people (1 month from vax or less) —signs of exposure are respiratory and dermatological/occular irritation.
Exactly. They gave up trying to produce vaccines for sars and mers because the rats all got ADE when challenged with the virus. When people asked the CDC/NIH/FDA and big pharma experts a year ago why operation warp speed vaccines wouldn’t result in ADE they said “Don’t worry, our vaccines will result in high antibody titers and will be non-leaky” , basically asserting that the vaccines would completely prevent the spread of the virus, thereby preventing vaccine resistant variants from evolving. Which was shown to be totally false when it was apparent that vaccine resistant strains had evolved within 3 months of the vaccine launch. But all previous assertions were memory holed and the goal posts were moved as usual.
Plus these indian dudes were saying last May that the vaccine should not use the spike protein as the target epitope in the vaccine, or if they did, that the vaccine makers should only use this one tiny part of the spike protein —the receptor binding domain. This was back in May 2020
They said that using the whole spike protein in the vaccine would greatly increase the chances of ADE because it is antibodies which target certain parts of the spike protein ( not the RBD) which cause ADE, accelerating the infectivity of coronaviruses.
Pfizer in fact produced two candidate vaccines, one which encoded for the entire spike protein and one that encoded for only the receptor binding domain— what that paper recommended. But only the “whole spike” vaccine was approved for emergency use. They didn’t even test the vaccine which only used the RBD. Its like they knew the RBD was the smarter approach but someone decided that the more ADE inducing vaccine was preferrable. Probably the other version didn’t kill enough people to suit them.
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena 6 points 3.8 yearsAug 27, 2021 13:59:56 ago (+6/-0)*
This was discovered when they made a bunch of kids sicker than they otherwise would have been by vaccinating them for dengue fever and respiratory syncytial virus a few decads ago. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaccine-associated_enhanced_respiratory_disease
It happens if the immunized person has too low a number of anitbodies and also if the person has the wrong kind of antibody (one that is from a different strain of the virus) or a combination of both.
If you get the vaccine, over time you will produce lower numbers of antibodies (too low). Over time the virus will evolve into a new strain like delta and your antibodies will be a bad fit (wrong kind). Children and household members who have inhaled low amounts of spike protein from recently vaxed people will also build low amounts of antibodies (of the wrong kind). So they are likely to have both problems: not enough antibodies, wrong kind of antibodies.
So assume that some of people becoming sick with covid now are people experiencing ADE such as children wilth vaxed parents, younger age groups who were unlikely to have gotten severe illness at the beginning of the epidemic, vaccinated old people with rapid progression of disease.
They can tell if ADE is a factor by performing autopsies on covid fatalities but they aren’t doing that — because they are trying to hide it, of course.
People who have been vaccinated will be on the hook theoretically to get boosters ad infinitem to increase their antibody levels and induce antibodies with higher affinity to new variants. Lest they fall into the high risk “non-neutralizing immunity” zone for ADE. So they are telling old people to get a third jab of the vax. Its the wrong kind of antibody (low affinity for delta) but they hope it will make up for that by raising the quantity of antibodies. Its basically doubling down on a bad strategy.
There may be some other disorders caused by the vaxx including Multisystem Inflamatory syndrome (MIS-C/MIS-A) and Mast Cell Activation Syndrome (MCAS) which also may be induced by vaccines as well as covid which I feel less confident discussing at this point, and some of this shit may be overlapping problems.
Just FYI for those who need more explanation than “that shit fucks up your immune system”
Edit: I mean, arguably big pharma understood all this from the get-go and have now created a few billion sure-fire repeat customers. 100 billion dollars a year for a pretty cheaply manufactured product. Its printing money.
Keep the kids away from recently vaxed people (1 month from vax or less) —signs of exposure are respiratory and dermatological/occular irritation.
[ + ] UselessIdiot
[ - ] UselessIdiot 1 point 3.8 yearsAug 27, 2021 18:24:18 ago (+1/-0)
What. It's on wikipedia saying vaccination is bad for COVID viruses.
This is crazy.
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena 2 points 3.8 yearsAug 27, 2021 20:28:32 ago (+2/-0)
Plus these indian dudes were saying last May that the vaccine should not use the spike protein as the target epitope in the vaccine, or if they did, that the vaccine makers should only use this one tiny part of the spike protein —the receptor binding domain. This was back in May 2020
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/pdf/10.1080/21645515.2020.1796425
They said that using the whole spike protein in the vaccine would greatly increase the chances of ADE because it is antibodies which target certain parts of the spike protein ( not the RBD) which cause ADE, accelerating the infectivity of coronaviruses.
Pfizer in fact produced two candidate vaccines, one which encoded for the entire spike protein and one that encoded for only the receptor binding domain— what that paper recommended. But only the “whole spike” vaccine was approved for emergency use. They didn’t even test the vaccine which only used the RBD. Its like they knew the RBD was the smarter approach but someone decided that the more ADE inducing vaccine was preferrable. Probably the other version didn’t kill enough people to suit them.
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Im sharing with my parents who are woke doctors
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