The news release is on the FDA website. It says it is approved for over 16 years old. The emergency use is still in effect for 12-16 year olds. How is it not approved as you say? Am I missing something?
Thanks for the cites MasterAce. This document isn't the easiest to parse for people outside of Biotech, at least for me. On page 2 it contains this paragraph:
"On August 23, 2021, FDA approved the biologics license application (BLA) submitted by BioNTech Manufacturing GmbH for COMIRNATY (COVID-19 Vaccine, mRNA) for active immunization to prevent COVID-19 caused by SARS-CoV-2 in individuals 16 years of age and older."
So having a BLA approved would let them introduce a biologic product into interstate commerce according to that bastion of truth wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biologics_license_application). I think is a very verbose way of saying it's approved.
Footnote 9 also states: "Although COMIRNATY (COVID-19 Vaccine, mRNA) is approved to prevent COVID-19 in individuals 16 years of age and older ..."
MasterAce has pointed out on page 12, while talking about allowed advertisements "This product has not been approved or licensed by FDA, but has been authorized for emergency use by FDA, under an EUA to prevent Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) for use in individuals 12 years of age and older; and"
So is this thing approved or not? I think the general public will say of course. The skeptical part of me thinks that contradiction on page 12 is there to limit people from liability or somesuch.
Thank you OP and @Xeros for the info. I guess the bottom line, no matter what the approval status, is that they've said it's approved and that's the line they'll stick with. I appreciate all the Goats that do the leg work for those of us that don't always have time to dig so deep.
On pages 3 it mentions how they got the "95% effective" number...
FDA’s analysis of the available efficacy data from 36,523 participants 12 years of age and older without evidence of SARS-CoV-2 infection prior to 7 days after dose 2 confirmed the vaccine was 95% effective in preventing COVID-19 occurring at least 7 days after the second dose.
So as long as the test subject didn't have the coof after 7 days of their 2nd shot, it was counted as successful? Am I reading that correctly?
Yea, so 5% still contracted the holo-cough despite vaccination and iirc two there are completed studies that were for - the first, monitoring for one month after the second dose and the second study, monitored for 6 months after the 2nd dose. While a longer one year long trial/ study is still in progress. The results of which are then 'extrapolated and adjusted' for population size to base overall efficacy etc on 7 billion people, just lol.
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"On August 23, 2021, FDA approved the biologics license application (BLA) submitted by BioNTech Manufacturing GmbH for COMIRNATY (COVID-19 Vaccine, mRNA) for active immunization to prevent COVID-19 caused by SARS-CoV-2 in individuals 16 years of age and older."
So having a BLA approved would let them introduce a biologic product into interstate commerce according to that bastion of truth wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biologics_license_application). I think is a very verbose way of saying it's approved.
Footnote 9 also states: "Although COMIRNATY (COVID-19 Vaccine, mRNA) is approved to prevent COVID-19 in individuals 16 years of age and older ..."
MasterAce has pointed out on page 12, while talking about allowed advertisements "This product has not been approved or licensed by FDA, but has been authorized for emergency use by FDA, under an EUA to prevent Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) for use in individuals 12 years of age and older; and"
So is this thing approved or not? I think the general public will say of course. The skeptical part of me thinks that contradiction on page 12 is there to limit people from liability or somesuch.
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Really tho thanks for summing this up.
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So as long as the test subject didn't have the coof after 7 days of their 2nd shot, it was counted as successful?
Am I reading that correctly?
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It has been and yet hasn’t been approved.
So ya I’m agreeing with you
Newspeak is real.
But we already knew that.
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https://www.voat.xyz/viewpost.php?postid=6123cfdb3e9c9
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But here it is
Eat a bag of dicks
https://www.fda.gov/media/150386/download
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Also put that bag of dicks away.
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Post as it’s own submission to let others know please.