The paradox of prison is that if you jail an innocent man, and imprisoning an innocent is a crime, then you are a criminal, and therefore you should also be imprisoned.
Imprisonment cannot undo the crime that was done, and you cannot know the future actions of anyone. So it is pointless as a means of fixing past damages and preventing damages in the future.
Imprisonment cannot act as deterrent because people commit crimes for three reasons, passion, compulsion, and selfishness, none of which could be affected by the threat of prison. If passion, then the crime was not committed from the rational mind that would consider the consequences, if compulsion, then they'd commit the crime even knowing the consequences, if selfishness, they commit the crime with the expectation they'd get away with it in order to read the rewards of doing their deeds, this the consequences won't matter since they aren't anticipated.
False Imprisonment happens often, for many reasons, and the falsely imprisoned can never get that time back, or unlive those experiences.
Hurting people just because they've harmed others is just causing more harm.
Imprisonment may actually help to spread the ideas of the criminal, by making a martyr of them.
If people are good, then why is prison needed? If bad, then why bother with prison at all? If neither, then then what purpose does prison serve?
Prisons cost things, time, energy, resources, wouldn't ot be better tonallow those things to be put to other purposes than doing harm to others for no logical reason?
Can you say that it's right to take someone and lock them up? Ever? Especially if they've yet to do anything to you, and aren't threatening to do anything to you?
If the state locks people up, and we all support the state, then the state imprisoning people makes us all complicit in the taking of their freedom, whether we want to be involved or not, that's bad in itself, but add to it that innocentnpeople, through no fault of the own, get locked up against their will, makes criminals of us all.
Prison is terrifying, traumatic, and causes irreversible damage, people are encouraged to feel good about the stripping of the freedoms of others. That these people are less than themselves and thus reserving of such a fate.
In case you don't notice, most of these are the arguements you'd get from Penn and Teller in their episode on the death penalty, they all apply to prison as well, and to the police on top of that, and to any form of punishment at all, or to the very concept of punishment.
My assignment is to argue for or against any of the points mentioned above. Feel free to do so with logic or evidence. Let's see how well you can take apart this obvious pile of dogshit arguments, or if you are able to make a suitable defense for them.
[ + ] Flabbygasted
[ - ] Flabbygasted 3 points 2.7 yearsAug 21, 2021 23:04:56 ago (+3/-0)
I think a much bigger emphasis should be put on people having a means to defend themselves. So when a crime does occur (worthy of a death sentence) justice can be handled then and there.
[ + ] Sleazy
[ - ] Sleazy 1 point 2.7 yearsAug 22, 2021 10:49:50 ago (+1/-0)
false charges result in incarceration
[ + ] Flabbygasted
[ - ] Flabbygasted 0 points 2.7 yearsAug 22, 2021 10:55:47 ago (+0/-0)
Not all false charges result in incarceration. And no one is saying bad shit wont happen to innocent people...accidents happen.
[ + ] Sleazy
[ - ] Sleazy 1 point 2.7 yearsAug 22, 2021 12:44:57 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] Flabbygasted
[ - ] Flabbygasted 0 points 2.7 yearsAug 22, 2021 13:32:08 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Garrett
[ - ] Garrett 1 point 2.7 yearsAug 21, 2021 23:11:35 ago (+1/-0)
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[ - ] deleted 0 points 2.7 yearsAug 21, 2021 23:57:42 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Fascinus
[ - ] Fascinus 0 points 2.7 yearsAug 22, 2021 17:28:51 ago (+0/-0)
Generally speaking, this is so.
What of the man who righteously disregards unjust laws?
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[ + ] Love240
[ - ] Love240 0 points 2.7 yearsAug 21, 2021 23:20:00 ago (+0/-0)
The God of the Bible doesn't advocate for caging men in cells for years as punishment. (I think that's torture.)
People are of the flesh, and in the flesh dwelleth no good thing. (Romans 7:18)
Jeremiah 17:9 The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?
You steal; return x2 or get caught w/o it and repay what you owe 4x or 5x, depends on how valuable.
You chimpout; Beatings/lashings
You rape/kill; Death
[ + ] Flabbygasted
[ - ] Flabbygasted 0 points 2.7 yearsAug 22, 2021 09:18:22 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Love240
[ - ] Love240 0 points 2.7 yearsAug 22, 2021 10:28:32 ago (+0/-0)
And also, he's God, he's always right. So what's your point?
[ + ] Flabbygasted
[ - ] Flabbygasted 0 points 2.7 yearsAug 22, 2021 10:51:11 ago (+0/-0)
What's my point? Mutilation is evil and only evil creatures require it.
[ + ] Love240
[ - ] Love240 0 points 2.7 yearsAug 22, 2021 12:11:18 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Flabbygasted
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[ + ] Love240
[ - ] Love240 0 points 2.7 yearsAug 22, 2021 13:37:05 ago (+0/-0)
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[ - ] Flabbygasted 0 points 2.7 yearsAug 22, 2021 13:39:46 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Love240
[ - ] Love240 0 points 2.7 yearsAug 22, 2021 13:43:44 ago (+0/-0)
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[ + ] Paradoxical003
[ - ] Paradoxical003 [op] 0 points 2.6 yearsSep 23, 2021 22:34:01 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] GloryBeckons
[ - ] GloryBeckons 0 points 2.7 yearsAug 21, 2021 23:03:55 ago (+2/-2)