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[ - ] try 3 points 2.7 yearsAug 19, 2021 07:55:10 ago (+3/-0)*

Sadly... your choices of current metals with ferrous tendencies will not work at that matter phase.

Foucault's currents will cause perturbations and disrupt your non-crystalline design due to current induced in a circuit due to a change in a magnetic field directed to oppose the change in flux and to exert a mechanical force which opposes the motion, from induced electromotive force. Such forces will stir up and deform your 'liquid'.

YOUR IDEA CAN WORK using a different type of matter that can withstand Foucault's currents and be constructed into a sphere though. I will have to ramble a bit on this other form of matter (Wigner crystal sheet in a sphere).

However, now that last week mankind realized 1934's amazing idea for a new CRYSTALINE substance made of pure sheets of electrons (no protons , no neutrons, JUST matter aligned electrons), YOUR IDEA CAN WORK. Yes, indeed.

A Wigner crystal is the solid (crystalline) phase of electrons first predicted by Eugene Wigner in 1934, and synthesized and studied in a lab in July 2021!!!

I doubt you read journals each week, but quanta magazine has a layperson writeup :

https://www.quantamagazine.org/physicists-create-a-bizarre-wigner-crystal-made-purely-of-electrons-20210812/


YOUR MIND WILL BE BLOWN reading that link.

And if not.. though I hate revealing too much of myself online (location, fields of study, business partners, etc) ... this video of individual ATOMS being manipulated and IMAGED IN REAL TIME in a REAL TIME video should sufficiently blow your mind and is related to the Wigner crystal advancements this last month : This one allows protons and neutrons to participate, as we cannot live-film sheets of electrons due to quantum effects in this universe, the source of matter in this wigner crystal is electrons massaged into a crystal using 'frozen' Barium 138+ ions :

Wigner Crystal of laser-cooled barium ions real time 5 second clip from this week (fresh) :

https://files.catbox.moe/nqguw7.mp4

WOW!!!

In the video above you can see a few dozen 138Ba+ ions fluoresce under the influence of laser light. Each dot of light here really is a single atom! The video is real-time, and the field of view left-to-right is about a millimeter

The crystalline structure they collectively exhibit owes the fact that they have been brought to very cold temperatures by the laser-cooling process. They occasionally shift position when the crystal is disturbed by a collision with a background gas molecule. You may also note two positions in the crystal where ions appear to be 'missing'. There are ions here, but since they are of a different isotope (likely 137Ba) they do not fluoresce at the same laser frequencies as does the 138Ba+. The structure is one that minimizes the energy of the overall arrangement, this is often called a Wigner crystal. Other more exciting Wigner crystals this week are made from adjacent sheets of electrons.

So in summary , you cannot use a normal liquid phase of matter for your dynamo but you could use electrons forced into a stable sphere around your radiating core.

Efficiency wise... you would be better off heating water into steam and running a turbine blade to a energy-loss modern tesla car brake motor. Though your original idea has little waste in theory, you still need a way to get all your radiation effects to impart into the electron sheet (or sheets) and not pass through it uncaptured.

I have no more comments on this topic, and am beginning to think you were playing some of us here as a tool, and I may have fallen for your bait.

Nevertheless, about 60 years from now, a sheet of pure electrons from your invention will harness energy from fusion reactors, to avoid mechanical generator designs and feed capacitor banks directly.

You are living 60 years ahead of your time, but living 14 days behind this weeks physics journals.

Of course no matter how profound and mind blowing physics is this month, it gets fucking downvote brigaded by paid jews to -5 like yesterday in my post here :

https://www.voat.xyz/viewpost.php?postid=611d1587ee79a

The original voat.co 4.5 to 5 years ago had a minimum of 7 hard scientists on it, then 6 , then 5 , then 4 then just 3 due to fucking disenchanting paid leftists paid to ruin free speech web sites like this one , fucking up all science threads with "space is fake and gay" , etc. Its called "kookifying" and succeeds in chasing off high IQ people who hate associating with those on the other side of an intellectual chasm. The CIA invented "kookifying social groups" but the CIA actually desires this site to exist and draw in high IQ 'dangerous' White people, as a from of honeypot. The 'kookifying' on voat was soley from paid leftists attacking each scientist with "space is fake and gay" attacks. Leftists funded by rich Jews and ADL/SPLC/JIDF/SharBlue. They hate free speech sites. Leftists hate free speech site less than scientists hate conversing with pretend low-IQ antagonists.

JEWS WILL DOWNVOTE highly valuable posts!

In fact Jews on voat will downvote this educated comment, because thats what Jews do to free speech sites.


[ - ] Lostandfound 1 point 2.7 yearsAug 19, 2021 17:46:40 ago (+1/-0)

You appear to be well read, thanks for the reading materials. Have you heard of the safire project and if so what are your thoughts?

[ - ] try 0 points 2.7 yearsAug 19, 2021 23:24:42 ago (+0/-0)*

To have opinions I would have to first watch the debunking videos... then debunk the debunkers if they seemed to take shortcuts in science. The universe models in 2021 are all about the same since late 1995, but each year more cosmologists lean towards multiverse models, and the five coexisting superstring models within. Yes five, though three can be resolved into one, but the other two superstring models force the number back to five.

the primary debunking video seems to be : The SAFIRE Project Is Not Real Science (Electric Sun Model Debunked) :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmVdPgkudC8

I have no stance on whatever starfire is, as I am unaware of it, but open minded enough to know that physics keeps changing. Additionally lots of mysteries and "quantum time periods" indicate we are in a simulation. Whether we are or are not in a simulation is irrelevant because science laws still exist, unless we catch them in transition or not uniform throughout.

VERBATIM LINKS by the attempting DEBUNKER::

My original Electric Universe debunk:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9q-v4lBGuw

My response to Ben Davidson: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VOazE6M8Cc


Someone went down the rabbit hole on SAFIRE finances with all the smoke and mirrors:

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=338779&page=28

Tax filings for ISF:

https://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/organizations/453344646.

Tax filings for MAF:

https://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/organizations/527106931

SAFIRE's one and only paper that has nothing to do with the electric sun model:

https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/0963-0252/24/5/055022/meta


Montgomery Childs embarrassing himself at 2:40:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGGewRoSV20

Learn real science regarding neutrinos:

https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqbVlLQkg3MkhWeUR0eXZxMl9OeGhEVjlNS2Rrd3xBQ3Jtc0trMGZaSDEwamF3bHlIZm5mclUwUWJnNk44YWZEX3ZXZVNnb183VmFybk1oTy1kcDFuS2hCV1NGV3QtMXQyV1R1SUQwUlJIYXppVHlCblR6WEk2cmQ3dDJmelNZeDZ5dVBqVzYwT3Ruenp6WUpKOUg2SQ&q=http%3A%2F%2Fmcba11.phys.unsw.edu.au%2F%7Emcba%2FPHYS3160%2Fn.pdf

An explanation of neutrinos that is much easier to understand:

https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/themes/solving-the-mystery-of-the-missing-neutrinos/

The Sudbury Neutrino Observatory paper:

https://journals.aps.org/prl/abstract/10.1103/PhysRevLett.89.011301

Tom Bridgman exposes the idiocy of Don Scott's book:

https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqbnBEeGhwX1lvMTJ5dndaZXhKV2JmdTJIVEVQQXxBQ3Jtc0ttYloxd1NTZG9xeGxiM19uVUxtajlPSzVNSjhDNlZVU3ZGdUpaZkJma1VSTEFtY2lmS0xtMVZBTHJvYkYtMHhkeTVROGZSejU0Z0hRd1EwNFpsUHQtUVZGakpXWXFWSE1fNERwUEtmNXV1OHdIdnd6Zw&q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.theplasmaverse.com%2Fpdfs%2Fthe-electic-sky-book-by-donaldescott-review-discussion-against.pdf

Brian Koberlein eviscerates the Electric Universe:

https://briankoberlein.com/blog/testing-electric-universe/

A former Velikovskian tells all: http://defendgaia.org/bobk/velidelu.html

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I would have to start with the debunking claims, to save time, as the other can use a mix of fact and theory in padding and stretching. So I spent 5 minutes (less) looking at just one thing from the debunkers and the debunkers WERE WRONG and the person they mocked were correct.

For example the debunkers seem ignorant of 2021 and 2020 neutrino anomolies MEASURED on earth showing wrong direction of travel through the south pole.

The debunkers seem to not know how the current sun models really work and that a square meter of the earths sun at the very center (the hottest prodution area) is merely about 75 degrees Fahrenheit of fusion (approximately 276.5 W/m3), the same as a compost heap, but the heat has no easy way to escape. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun

Also the light you see coming from the sun is RANDOMLY escaping photons created over 100 years ago and bouncing backwards and forwards forever for over 100 years (average). The debunkers promised me in one link I would listen to a fool, but the fool was correct and describing reproduceable experiments. Maybe the fool part is the experiments relevance to other theories.

Nevertheless Istarted mentioning that the debunker seemed very non up to date, and uneducated in 2020 cosmology for the 11 dimensions we use to explain the universe, the 13 gravity anomalies we cant explain, and the fact that the debunkers are WRONG to attack gravity claims. The gravity claim that gravity does not exist is factual theory in 2020 and requires a year or two of superstring to get to the papers but hre is a 2021 layperson web page explaining that thre is no such thing as gravity ... just time :

https://www.technology.org/2021/02/28/does-time-cause-gravity/

But to really bend your mind, in recent years science proved mathematically and in physics that TIME DOES NOT EXIST! :

It’s official: time doesn’t exist:
https://towardsdatascience.com/its-official-time-doesn-t-exist-8c786530eca1

If time does not exist and gravity does not exist and we have 5 near-flawless superstring models to back these claims up, and neutrinos now make no rational sense on our planet :

New explanation for neutrino anomalies in Antarctica:
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/06/200609190725.htm

My summary : the idiots trying to debunk the safire project used character assassination , smears, messenger attacks, appeals to authority, strawmen tricks and more and the one chance I gave the debunker , the one highlight real meant to mock safire, had nothing to mock and was sound and correct.

I honestly spent under 5 minutes, I spent more just typing this.

My gut feel... both sides are uneducated, but the sun is already an improbability based on statistics for this solar system... its mass, its unique path around milky way, its age vs universe age, the over abundance of carbon and radio-active elements in our earth... and more puzzles each year.

Its almost like we are rare and lucky to have the sun we have and the elements we have, elements that in ratios and types can ONLY be created in supernova, yet supernova are semi rare, and some elements cant be created in a supernova in quantities that magically coalesced on Earth (Plutonium) But also uranium.

Anyways, all I am saying i that you need about one year of reading to get on footing to decide one way or another on some of these topics

As to how the sun HAS to be constructed to have properties we do measure, that part is not too debatable. We have multispectrum data, and mass data.

voat messes up urls if they have h t t p s in the middle of them (perfectly legal but breaks display here)

so his urls look 'broken' above but i entered them correctly

I have no time or energy to make an opinion n starfie or even read its debunking videos, but the minutes I spent convinced me that the starfire people are more correct and factual than the raving screeching emotional debunkers all butt hurt that physics keeps changing every year including in 2020 and even 2021.

dont even get me started on black matter and physics anomalies

take care read and watch what you want, and remember that all current physics, all of it, came from people denounced in earlier years.

It is said only one thing can change physics... the NURSING HOME AND DEATH of the "experts"




[ - ] Lostandfound 1 point 2.7 yearsAug 20, 2021 04:24:56 ago (+1/-0)

I am genuinely in awe of your reply, I would in another life like to buy you a coffee to thank you for the time and consideration you gave to a small comment. This is the first time since coming here that I have felt I was on old voat, in the presence of minds greater than I (not a particularly high bar I must admit).

With reference to the point on time not existing, this has been my intuition - it seems almost illogical to think of time as being an actual physical thing. I compare it to a river, you can analyse a part of the water and describe the composition of that part, you can model and characterize the flow of the water in the river and make assumptions on where it will go next - but can a river really be said to be a physical thing and to exist in its own right? My feeling is no.

I find the majority of neutrino based detection experiments like IceCube, while having scientific merit, are deeply open to interpretation and could be caused by other factors we have yet to explain. We live in a scientific age of hyper-specialty which ensures biases are implicit in scientific research, we made this machine to detect neutrinos and got a result ergo this must be a neutrino. Though overall I am not in a position to validate or invalidate the findings of these scientists, you make a prediction and have to test it, that is how expensive complex research takes place.

For me it is the experiments that find something different, something totally unexpected that pique my interest which is where my interest in the safire project began several years ago. The original experiment was paid research to see if a small scale 'star-in-a-jar' could be created using magnetism and charged plasma as its primary mechanics. The people conducting the research didn't care about the results as such, due to the commercial nature of their business. The results coming from this in my opinion have been remarkable, I am reasonably well convinced that they have indeed created an analogue of the sun and more importantly it appears from their research that they have created a small scale, relatively low power, stable fusion reactor (they never say this due to the scientific suicide that it carries). After experiments are conducted they end up with heavier elements than were present when the experiment started and the device appears to be capable of producing a net gain of energy - so much so they are moving forward with commercialization of the 'reactor'.

Information is very slow coming from them, again they are a commercial enterprise not a research lab - but two videos stick with me. 1 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L69ttX3kviw - this is a reaction and analysis of the most recent presentation made by the team at safire, which very interestingly grabbed the attention of the safire team, so they had a meeting with the individual who made the video to give further context and explanation 2 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h49AbVfI7KU . I would highly recommend having a look if you had some time.

Thanks again and godspeed you crazy goat.


[ - ] Goatboy [op] 1 point 2.7 yearsAug 19, 2021 08:39:07 ago (+1/-0)

Thank you. I appreciate the links.

[ - ] bosunmoon 0 points 2.7 yearsAug 19, 2021 17:05:19 ago (+0/-0)

What about using several thin layers of liquid metal between glass spheres to create laminar flow which could help negate perturbations caused by Foucault's currents.
Conductivity and pressure could be maintained by alternating holes in the rotating glass spheres.

[ - ] account deleted by user 3 points 2.7 yearsAug 19, 2021 06:49:06 ago (+3/-0)

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[ - ] TheViciousMrPim 3 points 2.7 yearsAug 19, 2021 06:59:41 ago (+3/-0)

Did you remember to reroute the tachyon flow thru the deflector array?

[ - ] dalai_llama 2 points 2.7 yearsAug 19, 2021 07:23:00 ago (+2/-0)

lol, try reversing the polarity.

[ - ] Goatboy [op] 3 points 2.7 yearsAug 19, 2021 07:02:26 ago (+3/-0)

Any liquid metal should work. The challenge is finding the balance between electrical flux efficiency and containment safety. Liquid sodium would be most efficient electron flow, but dangerous in the presence of water. On the other hand an indium-gallium amalgamation would be safe to handle at low temperatures (if a gallium resistant container is found) but the electron flow wouldn’t be as efficient and the dynamo might need higher revolutions per minute to maintain high eddy current generation.

[ - ] TheViciousMrPim 1 point 2.7 yearsAug 19, 2021 06:33:25 ago (+1/-0)

I Concur, DoctorScientist.

[ - ] Goatboy [op] 1 point 2.7 yearsAug 19, 2021 06:40:15 ago (+1/-0)

Anyone should be able to make and test this using off the shelf components.

[ - ] account deleted by user 0 points 2.7 yearsAug 19, 2021 09:34:28 ago (+0/-0)

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[ - ] Goatboy [op] 0 points 2.7 yearsAug 19, 2021 11:27:48 ago (+0/-0)

I tried your mom, because your dad didn't work.

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[ - ] Goatboy [op] 0 points 2.7 yearsAug 19, 2021 18:51:31 ago (+0/-0)

It's cool.

[ - ] account deleted by user 0 points 2.7 yearsAug 19, 2021 09:16:58 ago (+0/-0)

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