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Need help from genius sleuth goats. The more I think about this problem, the less it makes sense. Any evidence you can dig up is greatly appreciated. More in comments.

submitted by Goatboy to whatever 2.8 yearsAug 15, 2021 00:42:40 ago (+4/-0)     (whatever)

In Escalante, UT cemetery there is a row of 9 graves that all say unknown infant 1902. This is for a town that likely only had a population of 1-300 people. Any help, leads, tips, or equally befuddled goats would be appreciated. So far internet leads have been disappointing.Thanks in advance.


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[ - ] KCobain27 0 points 2.8 yearsAug 16, 2021 16:49:39 ago (+0/-0)

If you ever get any dirt on this please make a post to v/conspiracy!

Where did you first hear about this?

[ - ] Goatboy [op] 1 point 2.8 yearsAug 16, 2021 17:18:09 ago (+1/-0)*

I visited the cemetary and saw it. I also have personal reasons for digging into it. My great grandmother lived there during the time. Later, for some reason no one I've talked to can explain, she spent nearly 50 years in the utah state mental hospital and died there. None of my family who remains alive knows why. My grand father and my great grand father had a falling out at some point and my grand father left southern utah. He is dead and all his siblings are now dead. None of my remaining aunts or uncles have any information about this period. No one can explain: why my grand father left, why my great grandmother spent half a century in a near vegatative state, or why my grand father and his siblings wouldn't talk about their time in Escalante before they all died. The Utah State Mental hospital doesn't have any records of my great grand mother. I'm not sure if my family is even related to the row of dead babies, but it is one possible tie to my family's history that I'm trying to track down. Also, it's just creepy and interesting to research on it's own merit regardless if my ancestors knew anything about it.

[ - ] KCobain27 0 points 2.8 yearsAug 16, 2021 19:05:50 ago (+0/-0)

woah, thanks

[ - ] MasterAce 1 point 2.8 yearsAug 15, 2021 00:55:12 ago (+1/-0)*

https://elevatedestinations.com/itineraries/grand-staircase-national-monument-trek/
Paragraph 2 >Established in 1902, this route was the original link between the remote town of Boulder and the outside world. Settlers would traverse this entire trek with all of their provisions and belongings in tow. Taking you back into simpler times and accounting for this trail’s name, a large portion of the route follows an old telephone line that allowed for communication between Boulder and the outside world via a hand-operated switchboard in Escalante.

It was the olden days and it was the back country babies that died were probably simply buried or left on the trail.

[ - ] Goatboy [op] 0 points 2.8 yearsAug 15, 2021 01:23:58 ago (+0/-0)

That raises more questions then it answers. The area was settled in the 1880s. If the deaths were from settlers or migrants, the deaths would have been proportional or averaged each year. There wouldn’t be a sudden load of dead babies and then an equally sudden drop off in cases in 1903.

[ - ] MasterAce 0 points 2.8 yearsAug 15, 2021 02:58:35 ago (+0/-0)

You asked about 9.
unmarked in a row.
Unmarked means unknown.
The trek/trail was finished in 1902.and presumably was a difficult trek of 30 miles or km or something.now presumably people were traveling this corridor before it was formally constructed?
Now whose to say they didn’t find remains from possibly years prior along said route and only discovered them during construction?
If this kind of thing raises more questions than answers I’d suggest visiting that city’s newspaper archives for the years leading up to 1902.

[ - ] Goatboy [op] 0 points 2.8 yearsAug 15, 2021 07:21:47 ago (+0/-0)

I’ve been looking through the available news paper for the region and it’s not mentioned so far, which is why this is an increasingly weird mystery.

[ - ] deleted 0 points 2.8 yearsAug 15, 2021 03:13:33 ago (+0/-0)

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[ - ] Goatboy [op] 0 points 2.8 yearsAug 15, 2021 07:28:53 ago (+0/-0)*

Typical polygamous families were 3-5 wives. Even if all 5 were pregnant at the same time, very unlikely, it would not explain why suddenly all 5 spontaneously aborted or where the other 4 dead babies simultaneously also died. Also, most infant deaths, even when unnamed, have some tie to the family, ie “infant daughter of so-and-so 1905” etc. In fact, there are examples of that type of grave marker from the same cemetery in the same time period, so such practice was not uncommon- which makes the 9 even weirder. They have no tie to anyone, which alone wouldn’t be a big deal, but for 9 random mothers and families to choose to completely dissociate from 9 babies all at the same time and same town, that is weird. The more scrutiny you apply to this case, the weirder it gets.

Also, there’s no record of an epidemic or pandemic killing at such a high rate in southern Utah in 1902- especially an epidemic that appears out of no where kills most of the kids who were likely to have been born for the entire town in the year, have no mothers or families claim any of the children, and just as randomly the epidemic disappear- all with not a single mention in the state or regional newspapers of the time.

[ - ] MasterAce 0 points 2.8 yearsAug 15, 2021 01:02:28 ago (+0/-0)

https://elevatedestinations.com/itineraries/grand-staircase-national-monument-trek/
Paragraph 2 >Established in 1902, this route was the original link between the remote town of Boulder and the outside world. Settlers would traverse this entire trek with all of their provisions and belongings in tow. Taking you back into simpler times and accounting for this trail’s name, a large portion of the route follows an old telephone line that allowed for communication between Boulder and the outside world via a hand-operated switchboard in Escalante.

It was the olden days and it was the back country babies that died were probably simply buried or left on the trail.

Edit. @System it’s doing that thing again