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Mother, you carry the fatherland

submitted by StarbuckAndCasey to WhiteBeauty 2.8 yearsJul 9, 2021 09:59:46 ago (+33/-0)     (files.catbox.moe)

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It could be argued that "tragt" in this case means "bear" rather than "carry". My German is rudimentary so if anyone out there knows which is best let me know.


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[ - ] Artificial_Intelligentile 8 points 2.8 yearsJul 9, 2021 12:39:36 ago (+8/-0)

"tragt" doesnt only mean to carry, but its also more static like in "support"... like "support beams" are "trag stützen". So its more of an emphasis on the mothers being the foundation of society/ the fatherland.

so once again, brilliant NAzi-Propaganda has ambivalent meaning. carry the child, support the nation.

[ - ] deleted 3 points 2.8 yearsJul 9, 2021 14:00:56 ago (+3/-0)

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[ - ] Artificial_Intelligentile 3 points 2.8 yearsJul 10, 2021 00:24:35 ago (+3/-0)

the complexity of german is absolutely necessary to precisely discuss the most difficult topics concerning philosophy. And its poetic possibilities are near endless. I myself speak bavarian most of the time, which is in a way more simple yet more complicated, and i only switch to "high german" when i have to explain something complicated =)

And on top of that, i think that German is just the most beautiful language in the world (maybe except for high-english) all other languages sound slurred and croaky...

I know a family from south africa who fled way back in the 90s when niggers claimed their farm, they dont even have a dialect, they learnt german so well..

[ - ] StarbuckAndCasey [op] 2 points 2.8 yearsJul 10, 2021 01:21:40 ago (+2/-0)

There is no "high English" unless you're talking about the Queen's English (the way the aristocracy speaks). It's not synonymous with "high German" (which is a geographical reference).

[ - ] deleted 0 points 2.8 yearsJul 10, 2021 09:10:41 ago (+0/-0)

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[ - ] Artificial_Intelligentile 0 points 2.8 yearsJul 10, 2021 09:47:24 ago (+0/-0)

as i mentioned, i usually talk bavarian ina very deep accent, and it is a softer, more connected and therefore "slurred" language. yet, the real beauty of german for me IS its "harsh" tone. like the edge of a knife. no doubt about what was said, everything precisely arranged and precisely grammatically determined. no way to mix anything up.

I have found this nice example of tthe author "Hermann Hesse" reading some of his own writing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rLsb3w8ZaM

It is for me the Epitome of what "High German" should sound like.

Dont get me wrong. It is natural for any people to think that their own language is the most beautiful. aside from arabs and jews and niggers, of course, those languages are nasty =)

The only africaans i ever heard came from "Die Antwoord". Shes so cute! and murderous! great sound imo...

i also prefer harsh and precise when listening to music. get lost with all those washed out niggerbeats and slurred speech, i need HiTech

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1h4kwPiZVE&t=46s

Bis bald =)

[ - ] deleted 0 points 2.8 yearsJul 10, 2021 11:20:45 ago (+0/-0)

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[ - ] Artificial_Intelligentile 1 point 2.8 yearsJul 10, 2021 15:31:51 ago (+1/-0)

video not available in my country... XD

yet i found this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbvzZTB9O0k

is that him?

[ - ] deleted 0 points 2.8 yearsJul 11, 2021 02:31:17 ago (+0/-0)

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[ - ] Artificial_Intelligentile 0 points 2.8 yearsJul 11, 2021 03:30:52 ago (+0/-0)

Sounds Like Vikings =) precise and powerfull, with a nice melody in some vocals. the oe ua ie oi sounds make it a musical language i think.

[ - ] TheGreatWhiteHope 3 points 2.8 yearsJul 9, 2021 14:38:13 ago (+3/-0)*

"Bear" can also mean support. "Load-bearing beams" for example.

[ - ] Artificial_Intelligentile 2 points 2.8 yearsJul 10, 2021 00:17:46 ago (+2/-0)

yes, the protoeuropean language had "bera" as a word for anything carry-related. even giving birth.

[ - ] Artificial_Intelligentile 1 point 2.8 yearsJul 10, 2021 00:32:32 ago (+1/-0)

yes, thank you for your input.

[ - ] GloryBeckons 0 points 2.8 yearsJul 10, 2021 04:49:16 ago (+0/-0)

Unfortunately, it also acquired a slightly negative connotation ("bearing a burden", "I can't bear to be here"), which is absent in German, where the connotation remains purely related to work and accomplishment; something you can be proud of rather than something to whine about.

Otherwise, and apart from that, "Mothers, you bear the Fatherland" would be the perfect translation.

[ - ] Wahaha 2 points 2.8 yearsJul 9, 2021 16:00:04 ago (+2/-0)

I mean, 'carry' also can mean 'support'. If someone 'carries' a party, he's the one doing all the work.

[ - ] account deleted by user 1 point 2.8 yearsJul 9, 2021 18:22:11 ago (+1/-0)

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[ - ] Artificial_Intelligentile 3 points 2.8 yearsJul 10, 2021 00:28:28 ago (+3/-0)

https://files.catbox.moe/hsqq9r.jpg

i mean. just take this example. nazi memes are still up to standard today. its great! had the meme-war back then done a little better, maybe more nations would have joined Germany in its defense against jewish aggression.

[ - ] Wahaha 4 points 2.8 yearsJul 9, 2021 11:42:55 ago (+4/-0)

Actually, Mütter is plural, so it's mothers, you are carrying the fatherland. I'm not sure about back then, but today the word only means to carry in this context.

[ - ] StarbuckAndCasey [op] 2 points 2.8 yearsJul 9, 2021 11:45:12 ago (+2/-0)

Fuck, I knew that too but it's too late to edit the title. Thanks.

[ - ] fightknightHERO 3 points 2.8 yearsJul 9, 2021 14:09:42 ago (+3/-0)

Moar please

[ - ] StarbuckAndCasey [op] 1 point 2.8 yearsJul 9, 2021 16:28:16 ago (+1/-0)

[ - ] spasswerk 3 points 2.8 yearsJul 9, 2021 12:58:46 ago (+3/-0)

Correct comments, carry or support. Quite a proper notion if there is also a father supporting both. Today's single mothers often rely on the state or others to support the kid for them. Leave the kid with (32 year old) mother--grandmother and continue spreading their legs irresponsibly. No wonder the kids are so fucked up and they continue the cycle of irresponsibility. Thanks welfare system!

[ - ] StarbuckAndCasey [op] 1 point 2.8 yearsJul 9, 2021 14:13:50 ago (+1/-0)

That is true. The pic is from a Hitler-era magazine so it was inferred that she had a man (and society) about to protect her.