I want to buy a 55 gallon rain barrel and pump to run through the RO filter I got last week instead of using municipal water
Barrel and pump look like $40 and I calculated I need 12x12 square feet to have enough water in Florida, and what better surface area than the roof
I'm thinking some kind of device that lets a PVC pipe attach to a vertical gutter, so that water goes into the pipe and when the pipe is full then it drains through the gutter
My dad is smart and handy but I barely got him to install the RO..
It's been raining like a motherfucker here lately, and the aquafur is full. Might as well take what you can, it's just gonna go to dasani if you don't.
Rain water is soft and slightly acidic. It doesn't water spot. It's a better solvent and its ph temporarily makes more nutrients available to plants. It also tastes terrible. If used for drinking, it should be kept in an earthen jar for several weeks to sweeten it as if it were more alkaline and mineral bearing ground water. Learned this from my spoon-bathing inlaws. One of the many benefits of miscegenation.
Side note, idk your generation but it has been very difficult to get my father to help me build my shed. Like pulling teeth. He built one with his grandfather when he was my age or so, but now he thinks I should just buy one.
Don't give your age, preserve your identity. I am just wondering if you are in a similar situation
RO systems usually require a decent amount of water pressure to function properly. Make sure your pump can support that. 40 psi won't cut it - you need at least 60 psi and many pumps (via pressure switch) cycle 40-60 psi.
I have some experience with this, though I don't know your area. When I did it I was shocked just how much water I got. If you do use your roof, you don't need to think in terms of scarcity. Unless you live in a desert it really isn't scarce at all.
With that issue out of the way, water quality is the only thing you need to think about. It sounds like that is your main focus, and I never quite got a good result myself so I'm not going to give you much or complete advice. But I wanted to tell you that so any concerns about scarcity don't hinder your thinking about the important parts.
Many people use bleach, the same as municipal water. The difference is you get control over the amount. My municipal water clearly isn't consistent. There are times I take a shower and I feel like I'm showering with pool water. One concern I've had with bleach is wasting it or getting inconsistent dilution just from the huge volume of water that a roof generates. A 55 gallon rain barrel can be fully replace multiple times in a single storm. So if you have a continuous feed most of your bleach would just wash out.
To address this many people use multiple, and treat the water in a rotation.
Look, to be honest my water smelled. Like I considered using it just as shower water just to try it out and I regretted it instantly. Legit, it can be as bad as pond water if you don't do something to address quality.
I was thinking - are you doing this to save water or you think rain water is healthier to drink?
If you are doing this to save water, I would suggest you use the barrel to hold the waste water from the RO system. There should be a line on the RO filter that connects to the drain, just re-route it to the barrel. RO filters work by basically rinsing the water so the waste water will have a higher TDS count than before the RO, but it is fine for laundry, plants, etc.
Or maybe three of those barrels in series for that. RO sytems are pretty wasteful in that regard, but it;s all still pretty mostly okayish stuff for the garden. If not too brackish.
You have the right idea with gutters, but I don't think 55 gals is going to cut it. You're going to need the right pump, filtration system, and a UV filter as well if you want potable water. A pressure tank is also a good idea. Very few homes here have county water, so most run on catchment. My catchment tank is 10,000 gallons.
Excellent point. You think you have enough, and then it goes so fast! Ours only lasts a month or two after rainy season. And that's just for refilling the turtle pond and watering the garden!
You would be better off taking a look at a few videos on the subject.
One thing you will want to do is have a sort of flush mechanism so the first bit of rain (With a load of dust from your roof) does not get in to the system.
Or just have the pickup positioned well above the bottom to avoid the sediment, with a petcock lower at the bottom of the barrel to use for flushing out sediment for use on watering the garden and such.
Have a pickup like you say or a larger settling drum that would spill over into the next drum which would be your supply to the pump. Then through the RO to a fresh water drum.
The settling drum would need to be much larger than your daily water demand to allow plenty of residence time for any particulate to settle out.
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Don't give your age, preserve your identity. I am just wondering if you are in a similar situation
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With that issue out of the way, water quality is the only thing you need to think about. It sounds like that is your main focus, and I never quite got a good result myself so I'm not going to give you much or complete advice. But I wanted to tell you that so any concerns about scarcity don't hinder your thinking about the important parts.
Many people use bleach, the same as municipal water. The difference is you get control over the amount. My municipal water clearly isn't consistent. There are times I take a shower and I feel like I'm showering with pool water. One concern I've had with bleach is wasting it or getting inconsistent dilution just from the huge volume of water that a roof generates. A 55 gallon rain barrel can be fully replace multiple times in a single storm. So if you have a continuous feed most of your bleach would just wash out.
To address this many people use multiple, and treat the water in a rotation.
Look, to be honest my water smelled. Like I considered using it just as shower water just to try it out and I regretted it instantly. Legit, it can be as bad as pond water if you don't do something to address quality.
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And it still only lasted a month or two, tops.
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If you are doing this to save water, I would suggest you use the barrel to hold the waste water from the RO system. There should be a line on the RO filter that connects to the drain, just re-route it to the barrel. RO filters work by basically rinsing the water so the waste water will have a higher TDS count than before the RO, but it is fine for laundry, plants, etc.
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One thing you will want to do is have a sort of flush mechanism so the first bit of rain
(With a load of dust from your roof) does not get in to the system.
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The settling drum would need to be much larger than your daily water demand to allow plenty of residence time for any particulate to settle out.
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