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Hey. I thought you guys might find this interesting. Increasing your crops with CO2. 1920 Scientific American.

submitted by Illsithereandlaugh to Gardening 4 yearsApr 21, 2021 16:52:18 ago (+14/-0)     (Gardening)

Here is a pdf file about the study: https://files.catbox.moe/d8u4qy.pdf I have nothing to do with gardening but I would like to hear your thoughts on this. This comes from the alternative theories about our history. Actually, this is the link to the video where I found it: https://files.catbox.moe/cfrucb.mp4 The experiment part starts at 4:00. Before that there is some talk about global warming and the sun. The channel is called Static in the attic if anybody would like to check it out.


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[ - ] Guy_on_a_buffalo 6 points 4 yearsApr 21, 2021 17:27:26 ago (+6/-0)

CO2 has been used in grow operation across the planet to produce larger flowers on cannabis plants for years now. It will definitely give your plants a boost, but you have to be careful with the ratios you use. Too much is actually stressfull to the plant. In tandem with that comes PAR readings(amount of light available for growth) and co2 ratios. To high of a par, or too strong of a light without co2 is also stressful. Its an interesting thing to mess with, and its relatively similar with mostly all plants, not just cannabis.

[ - ] Illsithereandlaugh [op] 1 point 4 yearsApr 21, 2021 17:33:39 ago (+1/-0)

I am wondering why this is not used on a large scale in food production. Are there any major downsides that stop people from doing thus? Or is it just another example of keeping things from the people because of money, power and so on?

[ - ] Guy_on_a_buffalo 1 point 4 yearsApr 21, 2021 17:36:40 ago (+1/-0)

They use it in food production as well. It is just much less prevalent. The growers have to pay for the co2, anc if the yeild difference doesnt offset the profits enough then theres no use in using it. All plants can benefit from added co2. Some more than others.

[ - ] Illsithereandlaugh [op] 1 point 4 yearsApr 21, 2021 18:05:18 ago (+1/-0)*

Oh. Have to pay for Co2. Have to pay to feed the plants with a gas they breathe out. I was suspecting that. Thanks for confirming. It also confirms that it is because of the pure evil I was thinking about.

[ - ] Guy_on_a_buffalo 0 points 4 yearsApr 21, 2021 19:48:58 ago (+0/-0)

Yeah, its usually better to find an alternative way of getting co2 to the plant then sitting there all day breathing on it. Pressurized or liquid co2 are usually the best way to go, but as mentioned in the comments below your use is a pretty common way of providing added co2 and heat to greenhouses. That is one factor you will have hell with using the method you are talking about. Get you a good a/c.

[ - ] canbot 1 point 4 yearsApr 21, 2021 20:03:41 ago (+1/-0)

Because large scale food production is done outside. With modern farm equipment one person can farm thousands of acres of land. In the right area you don't need to water, the soil already has all the nutrients. You till, plant, spray with insecticide and maybe once a season add fertilizer. You are better off spending your time farming more land rather than trying to maximize the yield per acre. There is no way you can make more profit trying to enclose your crops. Even if you multiply your yield per acre by 10 doing a hydroponic system, the time and energy you spend could have been used to farm 20 times more land.

This science is great for people who do hydroponics for other reasons. Home gardening for example. Or if you want to live off grid in a cold climate and need to farm in a greenhouse through winter.

Commercial farming is just too easy these days for any of this alternative farming to compete in the mass market. Only things like organic, short shelf life niche markets work financially.

[ - ] lord_nougat 0 points 4 yearsApr 21, 2021 17:41:55 ago (+0/-0)

It probably generally just costs more than it's worth.

[ - ] Illsithereandlaugh [op] 0 points 4 yearsApr 21, 2021 18:01:25 ago (+0/-0)

There is one comment under the video that professional i door farmers have been screaming about it for 25 years. Co2 is a byproduct of a lot of processes. There are places that do not suffer from the lack of Sun. Would it be about the cost of fertilizers? How quickly the soil would be impoverished? How about hydroponic, vertical gardening in greenhouses plus Co2? What cost or issue would make this not profitable? I am thinking "out loud" here.

[ - ] lord_nougat 0 points 4 yearsApr 21, 2021 18:03:56 ago (+0/-0)

I prefer my doors come from organic door farmers.

[ - ] Teefinyomouf 0 points 4 yearsApr 21, 2021 20:52:44 ago (+0/-0)

It is. Every time you burn fossil fuels you return ancient carbon to the air that has been entombed for millennia. It was plant life before and will be again, thanks to you!

[ - ] i_scream_trucks 0 points 4 yearsApr 21, 2021 22:15:51 ago (+0/-0)

literally nature.

[ - ] lord_nougat 2 points 4 yearsApr 21, 2021 17:41:18 ago (+2/-0)

greenhouses LOVE greenhouse gases!

[ - ] i_scream_trucks 0 points 4 yearsApr 21, 2021 22:16:41 ago (+0/-0)*

life 'loves' greenhouse gases.

people who love money love trying to tax people who have no control over things that are uncontrollable.

the west cant control china which produce some fucking stupid amount like 70% of manmade pollution and no one on earth can control fucking volcanoes, each eruption produces something like 4 times the amount of pollution that humans produce in a year. And how many eruptions have we had this year?

Also - the fucking last ice age was caused by volcanoes.

More fun facts, the earth has been colder before, the earth has been warmer before, humans have survived through both, and this was hrm.... hundreds of thousands of years before you could ring up and whine at your landlord about your heating not working, and the sahara desert was once covered in forest and is slowly SHRINKING.

[ - ] lord_nougat 0 points 4 yearsApr 21, 2021 22:20:10 ago (+0/-0)

WE NEED TO SAVE THE SAHARA!

[ - ] deleted 2 points 4 yearsApr 21, 2021 17:17:47 ago (+2/-0)

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[ - ] Illsithereandlaugh [op] 0 points 4 yearsApr 21, 2021 17:35:40 ago (+0/-0)

I'd love hearing about the result.

[ - ] deleted 1 point 4 yearsApr 21, 2021 17:36:42 ago (+1/-0)

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[ - ] aleleopathic 0 points 4 yearsApr 21, 2021 19:06:01 ago (+0/-0)

ts propane so its pretty clean. the co2 might even give them a boost.

This is exactly how the pot growers do it. They use so-called 'CO2 generators', which are basically propane burners that cool their exhaust before releasing it.

It will do very well.

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[ - ] albatrosv15 1 point 4 yearsApr 22, 2021 05:39:05 ago (+1/-0)

Here, have a simple visualization.

https://files.catbox.moe/8p1128.jpg

[ - ] aleleopathic 1 point 4 yearsApr 21, 2021 19:04:40 ago (+1/-0)*

This has been known for a while, alongside that CO2 apparently improves brain function (hence all of the strange naturopathic types who would rebreathe air into a bag for a minute or so in the 80s and 90s.

This comes from the alternative theories about our history.

People reinventing the wheel again. We already about the link between plummeting CO2, the Pleistocene Megafaunal extinctions (~10k years ago), and the fact that the earth is greening due to fossil fuels. http://www.naturalphilosophy.org//pdf//abstracts/abstracts_paperlink_7394.pdf

Satellites have been showing for decades now that plants grow fastest next to highways, or at lower elevations next to roads (CO2 is heavier than air). The WattsUpWithThat guy picked that up from a few of the EU guys nearly a decade ago.

[ - ] i_scream_trucks 0 points 4 yearsApr 21, 2021 22:15:25 ago (+0/-0)

yes. you all learned that in grade 2 science.

co2 makes trees grow.

you magic away all the co2 like the greentards want all the trees die.

if all the trees die, we die.

its as simple as that and ill be fucked if i know how it is people dont get that fucking basic science.

[ - ] Artificial_Intelligentile 0 points 4 yearsApr 21, 2021 21:48:55 ago (+0/-0)

talked to a farmer about it who has a setup for it, about 3000 squarefoot, and its only cost effective with the most valuable crops, like spring veggies and stuff..

[ - ] ClaytonBigsby313 0 points 4 yearsApr 21, 2021 21:31:35 ago (+0/-0)

My buddy's growing weed, and in his research he found you need to use a certain level of light (i'm probably getting it wrong but 800-1000w HPS per sq/ft) before adding CO2 is even worthwhile. But when you do it does benefit your yields. Improve lighting first.

[ - ] SulemanSeinfeld 0 points 4 yearsApr 21, 2021 21:02:38 ago (+0/-0)

Tis why talking to your plants is good for them.

[ - ] veo 0 points 4 yearsApr 21, 2021 20:54:01 ago (+0/-0)

I had once read a thing about some growing grape tomatoes in a greenhouse with lightly pressurized co2. They came out baseball sized. If love to try something like that.