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Site update: The deletion log, and new site rules

submitted by system to TalkDev 3 yearsApr 10, 2021 16:51:00 ago (+53/-1)     (TalkDev)*

Hey guys. Hope all is well.

The deleted submissions log is now up and can be viewed by all with an account. This lists posts deleted by an admin or a mod of the subverse. To access, click the button in the side menu. While in /all it will list all removed posts, while in a sub it will just list posts from that sub.

Note: Older removed submissions do not list a date or the account that removed it. I went ahead and manually added my name to the submissions I've removed. Newer posts will track this info.

Note to sub mods: If you need a submission removed from the delete log you can contact me or cynabuns. The reason must be valid and reasonable i.e. CP or dox.

A deleted comments log will soon follow.

I've also added 2 new site rules

No vote manipulation i.e. using multiple accounts to upvote your own content/mass downvoting an account.

and

Any content which contains nudity or could be considered porn must be labeled NSFW. This includes drawn/cartoon imagery.

The last rule is in response to recent abuse and is something I think a majority of the people here want or don't care about. It keeps the site from becoming /b/ and allows people who don't want to see this type of content to block the sub or disable seeing it via blocking nsfw posts in their account options.

Edit: After thinking about it I removed "and be posted to an appropriate subverse" from the last rule.


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[ - ] SparklingWiggle 9 points 3 yearsApr 10, 2021 23:07:16 ago (+12/-3)

You could ban porn altogether or at least porn for porn's sake. If someone is posting some mudshark naked and paying the toll, that should get a pass.
There are enough sites to see that shit.

[ - ] CamelsMiller 2 points 3 yearsApr 11, 2021 00:30:39 ago (+5/-3)

I agree. Ban nudity overall, unless it's like some nude PCP getting arrested or something like that. NSFW tag needed, but no porn ever IMHO.

[ - ] SirNiggsalot 3 points 3 yearsApr 11, 2021 11:32:33 ago (+3/-0)

Oy Vey , such anti-semitism , banning porn

[ - ] rhy 0 points 3 yearsApr 11, 2021 08:52:40 ago (+4/-4)

Fuck any slippery slope that leads to censorship faggot.

[ - ] account deleted by user 1 point 3 yearsApr 11, 2021 17:29:12 ago (+2/-1)

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[ - ] Nosferatjew 6 points 3 yearsApr 11, 2021 00:37:33 ago (+6/-0)

What about artistic nudity?

For example: https://files.catbox.moe/va7qc4.jpg

[ - ] system [op] 7 points 3 yearsApr 11, 2021 01:24:24 ago (+7/-0)

I consider this SFW. Just use discretion. The worst that will happen is your post just gets changed to NSFW. Unless you are intentionally being malicious there is nothing to worry about.

[ - ] Nosferatjew 3 points 3 yearsApr 11, 2021 03:03:25 ago (+3/-0)

Seems fair. I don't post porn, or anything close to it, like lewds, but I likes me some art.

Speaking of art, anyone know where @CobraStalone is these days? His museum sub and his contributions to it would be a lovely addition to the site.

[ - ] Antiliberalsociety 1 point 3 yearsApr 11, 2021 20:07:36 ago (+1/-0)

I was reported on cuqqus for this image here

https://files.catbox.moe/qxqi50.jpg (Mildly NSFW but it's censored)

Citing CP. The faggot commie (literally) told me he was trying to get me banned for it. He was apparently told "no" as it was considered "medical gore". So they didn't ban me. Instead, once I started talking about the admins being Jewish and their site was a honeypot, THEN they banned me for "long running harassment".

Can't make this shit up.

[ - ] Nosferatjew 1 point 3 yearsApr 11, 2021 21:11:53 ago (+1/-0)

How DARE you harass all those poor innocent jews. You monster!

[ - ] oldblo 1 point 3 yearsApr 11, 2021 00:49:41 ago (+1/-0)

Well they said nudity including drawn. Safe to say its implied.

[ - ] Nosferatjew 2 points 3 yearsApr 11, 2021 00:56:03 ago (+3/-1)*

I think there is a pretty big difference between what I linked in my comment, and illustrated porn, such as hentai, which is why I asked for clarification.

[ - ] oldblo 0 points 3 yearsApr 11, 2021 01:12:29 ago (+0/-0)

A fair point. "Any content which contains nudity"

Unless you care to argue that nudity is a trait that only maintains meaning when limited to that which lives or was alive I think youre boned.

[ - ] con77 1 point 3 yearsApr 11, 2021 02:25:47 ago (+1/-0)

HAREM!

[ - ] account deleted by user 0 points 3 yearsApr 11, 2021 07:19:08 ago (+0/-0)

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[ - ] binrobinrro -1 points 3 yearsMay 1, 2021 23:40:43 ago (+0/-1)

Nope. Go to an art site for that.

[ - ] account deleted by user 4 points 3 yearsApr 11, 2021 07:18:37 ago (+4/-0)

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[ - ] oldblo 0 points 3 yearsApr 11, 2021 16:47:37 ago (+0/-0)

The same could once be said of the entire internet outside of sites catering solely to young children.

You can thank the early form of woke culture.

[ - ] Cunt 0 points 3 yearsApr 11, 2021 19:19:23 ago (+0/-0)

Because you might be at work or in an environment where if someone glances at your screen you don't want them to see porn.

[ - ] account deleted by user 2 points 3 yearsApr 12, 2021 00:14:02 ago (+2/-0)

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[ - ] veo 5 points 3 yearsApr 10, 2021 22:09:48 ago (+5/-0)

Good rules. Thanks system. Keep up the good work!

[ - ] AloisH 5 points 3 yearsApr 10, 2021 17:39:40 ago (+6/-1)

cool, hows your weekend going?

[ - ] system [op] 8 points 3 yearsApr 10, 2021 18:35:11 ago (+9/-1)

No complaints. This weekend has a good vibe to it.

[ - ] Jeff_Cajun_Year 2 points 3 yearsApr 11, 2021 01:09:05 ago (+2/-0)

Thanks man.

You are doing it right.

[ - ] account deleted by user 2 points 3 yearsApr 11, 2021 00:21:26 ago (+2/-0)

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[ - ] GoatsAdvocate 2 points 3 yearsApr 10, 2021 22:36:54 ago (+2/-0)

Sounds good system

[ - ] fightknightHERO 1 point 3 yearsApr 11, 2021 12:36:04 ago (+1/-0)

Pagan could've easily avoided getting hammered if he just posted his smut under NSFW (most of voat has NSFW posts disabled on default)

Sadly he went full retard and even used alts to comment on his own posts

But now his retardation has cost us a divide because Voat is torn between "shall not censor" and "get your anime smut outta here!"

Personally i think system was right to ban him, because vote manipulation should never be tolerated as it is.

But many are starting to take it as a "weeb witch hunt" and it saddens me that nukeisrael has decided to leave voat (is system really sure he and pagan was the same person?)

[ - ] system [op] 0 points 3 yearsApr 11, 2021 13:45:59 ago (+0/-0)

[ - ] Wahaha 1 point 3 yearsApr 11, 2021 06:17:39 ago (+1/-0)

How do I know what an appropriate subverse is? Does the subverse has to be modified in some way or is it just up to the mods of that subverse? (I'm the owner of /v/anime and don't mind anime nudity.)

[ - ] system [op] 1 point 3 yearsApr 11, 2021 07:21:35 ago (+1/-0)*

When I wrote this part of the rule I mainly had default subs in mind to prevent shock images from being spammed to them, but after thinking about it I changed my mind. I don't care where it's posted as long as it's labeled nsfw. I will edit the rules and the OP.

[ - ] oldblo 1 point 3 yearsApr 10, 2021 22:40:30 ago (+1/-0)

Considering things I suggest you add "that which can be perceived as sexually intimate" next to pornographic and nudity.

[ - ] Cynabuns 1 point 3 yearsApr 10, 2021 22:47:20 ago (+1/-0)

Interesting. How do you see the difference from pornography?

[ - ] oldblo 1 point 3 yearsApr 10, 2021 23:05:06 ago (+1/-0)*

I wouldnt consider kissing pornographic. Thats for damn sure. No more than I would call any facial expression or nudity alone to be pornographic. As for what I consider pornographic its an "I know it when I see it." kind of thing but thats a highly subjective standard. I guess I would say it is sexual contact with an erogenous zone.

I suppose sexually intimate can also include facial expressions.

It isnt my intent to slap NSFW on them. Nor do I think it fair to do so. Unfortunately if we want to include some form of kissing as a bannable offense the above is the best rule I can think of. I just want people to preemptively have a few simple and clear rules that are not excessive and dont equate to "Im gonna do what I want to you."

[ - ] Cynabuns 0 points 3 yearsApr 10, 2021 23:19:53 ago (+0/-0)*

I agree with you, I don't see kissing or facial expressions or generic nudity as pornographic, and I can't see those first two as getting a NSFW flair, but nudity will.

I think what I'm trying to get to is, how is "pornography" not encompassing enough that "sexually intimate" should be added? I think I see where you might be going but I don't want to put words in your mouth.

Edit to add because reasons:
Kissing, as in mouth-to-mouth or to a non-sexual area

[ - ] oldblo 1 point 3 yearsApr 10, 2021 23:40:03 ago (+1/-0)*

Im kinda shit at expressing myself and people having the sense to not put words in the mouths of others is appreciated. The world could do with fewer people that like to make assumptions.

System and I had a chat. I basically said that calling kissing a child CP is absolute bullshit. (Personally ive long been sick of seeing attempts to ever expand the definitions of things to the point of encompassing unrelated every day things for the sake of censorship and banning.)

They more or less said the image they censored could be perceived as sexually intimate and as such can be potentially perceived as pornographic.

If that which someone might consider sexually intimate can also be potentially labeled as pornographic (including what is in my mind not pornographic in the slightest) then it makes sense to mention both things when choosing what gets the NSFW tag.

[ - ] Cynabuns 0 points 3 yearsApr 11, 2021 00:13:07 ago (+0/-0)

Ok I see where you're at and here's my take: I personally think that 'sexually intimate' falls into the broad umbrella of pornography.

Any images of a child being kissed are somewhat dangerous, or at least the potential for danger exists. That image of which you spoke with System was crossing a line==open mouth kissing of children is just fucking NO. Open mouth kisses are sexually oriented.

Banning and censorship can be hard lines to walk. I envision a day when I perceive something as needing a NSFW flair while System might not, and vice versa. And we'll cross those bridges if we come to them.

[ - ] oldblo 1 point 3 yearsApr 11, 2021 00:24:06 ago (+1/-0)*

Im not sure if it still needs to be said but what im saying is if that which can be thought of as sexually intimate falls under the category of pornographic I think it best to mention such or include "possibly perceived as sexually intimate" alongside pornographic and nudity for the sake of clarity. It has little to do with past censorship. Its advocation for logical consistency and clarity.

[ - ] diggernicks 1 point 3 yearsApr 10, 2021 16:52:55 ago (+5/-4)

/b/ was never good

[ - ] virge 0 points 3 yearsApr 11, 2021 16:16:50 ago (+1/-1)

It's so interesting to observe so many different opinions driven by what they don't know, about what they don't know.

[ - ] RobertJHarsh 0 points 3 yearsApr 11, 2021 11:36:23 ago (+0/-0)

I never vote, system!

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[ - ] account deleted by user 0 points 3 yearsApr 10, 2021 17:28:07 ago (+5/-5)

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[ - ] Cynabuns 4 points 3 yearsApr 10, 2021 21:00:37 ago (+5/-1)

It's hard to stay away from you ;)

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[ - ] account deleted by user 0 points 3 yearsApr 11, 2021 10:17:11 ago (+0/-0)

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[ - ] Doglegwarrior -1 points 3 yearsApr 11, 2021 11:24:08 ago (+2/-3)

Not bad now I will see if the faggot @cheesebooger stops getting 18 upvotes for a fucking useless comment. I accused him of fake upvotes now maybe we will find out.

Good rules changes keep it up and keep improving the site

[ - ] account deleted by user 3 points 3 yearsApr 11, 2021 11:32:38 ago (+3/-0)*

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[ - ] Doglegwarrior -1 points 3 yearsApr 11, 2021 21:30:52 ago (+0/-1)

Your a liar.

[ - ] account deleted by user 0 points 3 yearsApr 11, 2021 23:30:18 ago (+0/-0)

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[ - ] Doglegwarrior -1 points 3 yearsApr 12, 2021 00:11:58 ago (+0/-1)

You claimed I blocked you on poal I have never blocked anyone. Not sure how I go take a screen shot to prove it but I know your a liar and i know you know I know

Faggot kike

[ - ] account deleted by user 1 point 3 yearsApr 12, 2021 00:17:48 ago (+1/-0)

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[ - ] Doglegwarrior 0 points 3 yearsApr 12, 2021 00:37:35 ago (+0/-0)

Damn it now I got to go back and find that shit. You for sure said it or I was really confused. Will see if I can find it.

[ - ] Doglegwarrior 0 points 3 yearsApr 12, 2021 00:47:09 ago (+0/-0)

You claim I'm a mossad agent or fed? 100% fucking lie.

Dumbest claim on this site possibly

[ - ] Doglegwarrior 0 points 3 yearsApr 13, 2021 20:55:02 ago (+0/-0)

You might be right only thing I could find was you talking about Owen benjamin banning people and then said something about me.

Not deleting my account I didn't look through everything so might have happend you are still a liar. I'm not Jewish or mossad and you did claim that shit said I was a fed I think. All totally false bullshit with nothing to back it up. Well in your gamma mind what ever you make up is real because you believe your own lies

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[ - ] system [op] 7 points 3 yearsApr 10, 2021 23:00:08 ago (+7/-0)*

No doxxing applies to site members. I don't really care beyond that.

[ - ] account deleted by user -3 points 3 yearsApr 11, 2021 00:20:58 ago (+1/-4)

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[ - ] account deleted by user -5 points 3 yearsApr 10, 2021 16:59:27 ago (+0/-5)

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[ - ] system [op] 12 points 3 yearsApr 10, 2021 17:02:44 ago (+13/-1)

How about one to ban lying whining faggots?

[ - ] account deleted by user 3 points 3 yearsApr 10, 2021 18:02:21 ago (+4/-1)

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[ - ] lord_nougat 0 points 3 yearsApr 10, 2021 22:08:20 ago (+1/-1)

BUT I LIKE WHINING!

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[ - ] lord_nougat 3 points 3 yearsApr 10, 2021 22:08:52 ago (+3/-0)

No. /s is gay.

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[ - ] WhiteCollarCriminal 1 point 3 yearsApr 10, 2021 18:17:48 ago (+2/-1)

I was just gonna whine a bit but now I guess I won't bother.

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[ - ] Hey_guys_whats_up 1 point 3 yearsApr 10, 2021 20:21:57 ago (+1/-0)

How so?

[ - ] bosunmoon 4 points 3 yearsApr 10, 2021 21:15:11 ago (+4/-0)

I fuck sharks.

[ - ] PeckerwoodPerry 2 points 3 yearsApr 10, 2021 22:29:16 ago (+2/-0)

Mud sharks

[ - ] lord_nougat 1 point 3 yearsApr 10, 2021 22:09:25 ago (+1/-0)

Sharts?

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[ - ] Jeff_Cajun_Year 0 points 3 yearsApr 11, 2021 01:19:27 ago (+0/-0)

Are you Ernest Hemingway by chance?

[ - ] rhy 0 points 3 yearsApr 11, 2021 08:57:37 ago (+0/-0)

Yes, I am Ernest Hemingway. I hope you liked my books.

[ - ] Jeff_Cajun_Year 0 points 3 yearsApr 11, 2021 19:53:25 ago (+0/-0)