I have only seen him speak a few times. Some smart people that I respect think hes pretty good. Im sure hes made a lot of good observations about jews and their “revolutionary spirit” but at the end of the day, he believes in free will and the power of jesus to save people from their evil ways. So his theory of jews is going to be within that paradigm.
I can accept the flaws of christian morality or logic without despising all christians. I think it is incredibly important right now to show solidarity with others who are spreading the j pill. We do not have to all agree about why jews are destroying civilazation or how to deal with that. We just have to focus on informing the world about the problem.
So no, I dont think EMJ supporters should rope themselves. These are little endian/ big endian disputes as far as Im concerned. The point is, dont let them run your country.
You are the Jacob Amman of race theory. “ If you dont agree with my policy of banning I will ban you!”
I am happy to ally with any non-communist white with decent values and maybe even certain non-whites for limited purposes. My primary motive is to end this corrupt dystopia run by jews. Christians like EMJ are good allies in that fight. Once that is accomplished we can negotiate a new system like civilized white people and if that is not possible we may have to duke it out. But I am optimistic.
There is a balance between forming a pragmatic strategy for victory through coalition building and maintaining ideological purity of your movement. You are far too purist IMO, you are not thinking strategically.
Its not a matter of what my ideology is. Its whether my ideology and his have common goals. And they do. He thinks jesus can save them from being black or jewish or whatever. i dont. But I dont know why you have to hyperventilate so. You act like I fucked your best friend or something.
I watched most of the video. The guy actually gives a lot of credit to EMJ for being a dissident thinker that originally inspired him. I get that he is a purely cultural guy. He thinks RC culture is magic and it fixes all the problems he observes in blacks, jews, etc. Culture to the exclusion of any DNA based theories.
What he believes is on par with what most white people have believed for thousands of years. It is not essential for people to understand how culture works for culture to work. It is not essential for people to understand evolution for evolution to favor them.
I believe in evolutionary theory as an explanation of politics and culture and behavior totally.. but I also know people dont have to accept evolutionary theory to be a successful society. Im not even sure its desirable.
communism is literally the best system if humans weren’t made of genes
I suppose you mean that we cant socially engineer a static utopia because we can never elude the forces of evolution, subsidizing failures will cause genetic entropy and white people will regress. Or something.
You are the Jacob Amman of race theory. “ If you dont agree with my policy of banning I will ban you!”
I am happy to ally with any non-communist white with decent values and maybe even certain non-whites for limited purposes. My primary motive is to end this corrupt dystopia run by jews. Christians like EMJ are good allies in that fight. Once that is accomplished we can negotiate a new system like civilized white people and if that is not possible we may have to duke it out. But I am optimistic.
There is a balance between forming a pragmatic strategy for victory through coalition building and maintaining ideological purity of your movement. You are far too purist IMO, you are not thinking strategically.
Its not a matter of what my ideology is. Its whether my ideology and his have common goals. And they do. He thinks jesus can save them from being black or jewish or whatever. i dont. But I dont know why you have to hyperventilate so. You act like I fucked your best friend or something.
I (mostly) agree on your theory of evolution. I dont agree with going to war over everyone that doesnt accept it. I believe in prioritizing our problems and tackling the worse one first.
You are fundamentally misunderstaning how evolution works then. Is a computer 75% hardware and. 25% software? The question itself is meaningless.
Evolution is an information system. Information is transmitted and evolves over time in living beings and societies. The two mediums of this information are genes and modes of behavior— at the human level this is culture. Cultural memes or modes of behavior evolve together with DNA. They arent separate.
Example: Monogamy vs Polygamy (e.g. christianity vs islam) . Monogamy as a cultural regime will change the set of strategies both males and females pursue in order to “win”. Certain genetic traits will increase in frequency predictably if monogamy is enforced for several generations. Lower violence, less rape, more economic productivity, high trust culture, higher status of females, later marriage age of females, and so on. Culture shapes genes and genes shape culture. They are inextricably linked.
He is emphasizing the power of grace to perfect nature.
He is also not comparing Europeans / whites and Africans / blacks, but Europe and Africa. as cohesive wholes.
There was no unity, no singleness to Europe prior to the Church. There was only Rome, but it conquered, it did not unify.
Christendom was the first unifying force in European history. And the grace that flowed from its truth perfected the already advanced Mediterraneans where their philosophy had reached a dead end in the Aristotelian Prime Mover / Platonic Demiurge impasse, and likewise civilized the barbarians who were too preoccupied with stealing what others had, raping foreign women, and chasing pigs to build a real civilization. It was the Benedictine Order that taught the Germans how to work, and the Catholic Church that gave Celts and Britons and Gauls a reason to perceive themselves as one group - one faith - because they certainly didn't perceive themselves as one group prior to the Church, whether their skin was white or not.
That is what EMJ is emphasizing when he touches on this issue.
EMJ denies "white" and "black" as meaningful categories in themselves. He points out that they only have meaning when juxtaposed against one another. Until white men encounter blacks, there is no white - there is only Irish, Italian, German, etc. EMJ emphasizes ethnicity over race because it for 95%+ of European history was far more important as a category than "white". He obviously does not deny the material reality of differing genetics; he has spoken often enough about the Human Genome Project and is familiar with its findings.
He denies that behaviour must depend on genetics, and he is right to do so, because of grace. Genetics are only causal with respect to behaviour when those doing the acting are living according to the flesh. For those who live according to the spirit, it is a different story.
But if you accept a priori a naturalistic framework, or make an unjustified extrapolation from the apparent influence of race on behaviour some of the time to assume it is so all of the time, than these considerations are above you.
It was the Benedictine Order that taught the Germans how to work,
Hahaha. No one had to teach the germans how to work.
The celts and other quasi celtic people dominated central europe for like a thousand years, from ireland and iberia all the way to turkey and the black sea. They werent politically unified but they were certainly culturally and linguistically unified. They were religiously unified. They worshipped the same gods.
The celts were “unified” in their defeat as a major european culture by the romans and the germanics territorially and culturally. They have been increasingly marginalized in europe since then.
Britons and Gauls, pre-roman conquest were the exact same people. They spoke the same language basically early welsh. The galatians spoke welsh. Gaels were a slightly different group. But they could basically understand each other.
They certainly did. There was no mobilized labour in the Germanic territories prior to the Benedictine Order. None. Prior to the the Benedictines establishing monasteries along the Danube and Rhine valleys, there was no cultivation of the soil among those peoples - they lived according to the principle of pillaging, mere marauding tribes. The very nature of monasteries is to work and pray - which was Benedict's motto, ora et labora - and as a result monasteries had the habit of slowly growing from a mere hut with a few monks working the land and praying, to a community of monks with gardens working the land and praying, to a village or hamlet surrounding the monastic farms, to entire cities. This is what happened to create what we know as the Germanic worker. This priest describes this process succinctly here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cjnCAd4QDE
As EMJ himself writes in Barren Metal,
Because Christianity preached the equality of all believers in the eyes of God, Europe did not split into two mutually exclusive classes, with helots doing all the work and the ruling class ruined by idle leisure, as both Greece and Rome had. Work had been redeemed because of Christianity, and since there was no longer any stigma attached to it, the social order that grew out of the Christianization of the Germanic tribes became industrious in a way that antiquity would have found unprecedented.
The guild was bound up with a concept of work that was peculiarly Christian. The idea of work which the Germans learned from the Benedictine monks was at odds with the pagan conception of work. For pagan antiquity, work was a disgrace and a curse which inflicted its burden only on the poor. The Greek word "to work," came from the same root as the word "poor" and it meant "to suffer poverty."
This does not sound like a pre-Christian pagan spirit proud of its labour! Unless we are to suppose the barbarian Germans had a deeper respect for labour than the far more civilized Greeks or Romans - barbarians, I'll remind you, that did not build their own great civilization prior to Christianity, but merely destroyed the Roman one.
The celts and other quasi celtic people dominated central europe for like a thousand years
By raping and pillaging better than anyone else. Good for them.
I take my time to formulate my responses, and furthermore I don't exactly spend every hour of the day on this website. I'm still judging whether or not its community is worth engaging with. Judging by the quality of the responses so far, it's not looking good.
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I can accept the flaws of christian morality or logic without despising all christians. I think it is incredibly important right now to show solidarity with others who are spreading the j pill. We do not have to all agree about why jews are destroying civilazation or how to deal with that. We just have to focus on informing the world about the problem.
So no, I dont think EMJ supporters should rope themselves. These are little endian/ big endian disputes as far as Im concerned. The point is, dont let them run your country.
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I am happy to ally with any non-communist white with decent values and maybe even certain non-whites for limited purposes. My primary motive is to end this corrupt dystopia run by jews. Christians like EMJ are good allies in that fight. Once that is accomplished we can negotiate a new system like civilized white people and if that is not possible we may have to duke it out. But I am optimistic.
There is a balance between forming a pragmatic strategy for victory through coalition building and maintaining ideological purity of your movement. You are far too purist IMO, you are not thinking strategically.
Its not a matter of what my ideology is. Its whether my ideology and his have common goals. And they do. He thinks jesus can save them from being black or jewish or whatever. i dont. But I dont know why you have to hyperventilate so. You act like I fucked your best friend or something.
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What he believes is on par with what most white people have believed for thousands of years. It is not essential for people to understand how culture works for culture to work. It is not essential for people to understand evolution for evolution to favor them.
I believe in evolutionary theory as an explanation of politics and culture and behavior totally.. but I also know people dont have to accept evolutionary theory to be a successful society. Im not even sure its desirable.
I suppose you mean that we cant socially engineer a static utopia because we can never elude the forces of evolution, subsidizing failures will cause genetic entropy and white people will regress. Or something.
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I am happy to ally with any non-communist white with decent values and maybe even certain non-whites for limited purposes. My primary motive is to end this corrupt dystopia run by jews. Christians like EMJ are good allies in that fight. Once that is accomplished we can negotiate a new system like civilized white people and if that is not possible we may have to duke it out. But I am optimistic.
There is a balance between forming a pragmatic strategy for victory through coalition building and maintaining ideological purity of your movement. You are far too purist IMO, you are not thinking strategically.
Its not a matter of what my ideology is. Its whether my ideology and his have common goals. And they do. He thinks jesus can save them from being black or jewish or whatever. i dont. But I dont know why you have to hyperventilate so. You act like I fucked your best friend or something.
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Evolution is an information system. Information is transmitted and evolves over time in living beings and societies.
The two mediums of this information are genes and modes of behavior— at the human level this is culture. Cultural memes or modes of behavior evolve together with DNA. They arent separate.
Example: Monogamy vs Polygamy (e.g. christianity vs islam) . Monogamy as a cultural regime will change the set of strategies both males and females pursue in order to “win”. Certain genetic traits will increase in frequency predictably if monogamy is enforced for several generations. Lower violence, less rape, more economic productivity, high trust culture, higher status of females, later marriage age of females, and so on. Culture shapes genes and genes shape culture. They are inextricably linked.
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He is also not comparing Europeans / whites and Africans / blacks, but Europe and Africa. as cohesive wholes.
There was no unity, no singleness to Europe prior to the Church. There was only Rome, but it conquered, it did not unify.
Christendom was the first unifying force in European history. And the grace that flowed from its truth perfected the already advanced Mediterraneans where their philosophy had reached a dead end in the Aristotelian Prime Mover / Platonic Demiurge impasse, and likewise civilized the barbarians who were too preoccupied with stealing what others had, raping foreign women, and chasing pigs to build a real civilization. It was the Benedictine Order that taught the Germans how to work, and the Catholic Church that gave Celts and Britons and Gauls a reason to perceive themselves as one group - one faith - because they certainly didn't perceive themselves as one group prior to the Church, whether their skin was white or not.
That is what EMJ is emphasizing when he touches on this issue.
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He denies that behaviour must depend on genetics, and he is right to do so, because of grace. Genetics are only causal with respect to behaviour when those doing the acting are living according to the flesh. For those who live according to the spirit, it is a different story.
But if you accept a priori a naturalistic framework, or make an unjustified extrapolation from the apparent influence of race on behaviour some of the time to assume it is so all of the time, than these considerations are above you.
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Hahaha. No one had to teach the germans how to work.
The celts and other quasi celtic people dominated central europe for like a thousand years, from ireland and iberia all the way to turkey and the black sea. They werent politically unified but they were certainly culturally and linguistically unified. They were religiously unified. They worshipped the same gods.
The celts were “unified” in their defeat as a major european culture by the romans and the germanics territorially and culturally. They have been increasingly marginalized in europe since then.
Britons and Gauls, pre-roman conquest were the exact same people. They spoke the same language basically early welsh. The galatians spoke welsh. Gaels were a slightly different group. But they could basically understand each other.
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They certainly did. There was no mobilized labour in the Germanic territories prior to the Benedictine Order. None. Prior to the the Benedictines establishing monasteries along the Danube and Rhine valleys, there was no cultivation of the soil among those peoples - they lived according to the principle of pillaging, mere marauding tribes. The very nature of monasteries is to work and pray - which was Benedict's motto, ora et labora - and as a result monasteries had the habit of slowly growing from a mere hut with a few monks working the land and praying, to a community of monks with gardens working the land and praying, to a village or hamlet surrounding the monastic farms, to entire cities. This is what happened to create what we know as the Germanic worker. This priest describes this process succinctly here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cjnCAd4QDE
As EMJ himself writes in Barren Metal,
This does not sound like a pre-Christian pagan spirit proud of its labour! Unless we are to suppose the barbarian Germans had a deeper respect for labour than the far more civilized Greeks or Romans - barbarians, I'll remind you, that did not build their own great civilization prior to Christianity, but merely destroyed the Roman one.
By raping and pillaging better than anyone else. Good for them.
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