Hitler was using a term that social scientists were using in the day. At that time we did not know as much about our evolution as the European race. We now know that the Aryan tribes ( people who actually called themselves aryans) share common ancestry with germanics, slavs, greeks, etc in the Pontic Caspian Steppe Herder people, often now referred to as proto-indo-europeans (although that is correctly just a linguistic category) or Yamnaya/Yamna people ( a genetic population of steppe herders). I think steppe herder or PIE is a better term for what most people around here mean when they say Aryan.
But northern europeans aren’t directly descended from steppe herders, they are descended from the people of Corded Ware Culture, whic was a mix of steppe herders and some other people living in situ in northern europe, mostly funnel beaker culture. Greeks and armenians do not descend from this group. But slavs, germanics, celts, latins, and aryans were.
The group that you are using Aryan to refer to seems to me to be just germanics: germans, dutch, scandinavians, englishman, etc., hold the slavs/celts/italics/indo-iranians. Thats fine. I know how most people use the term. I just like to let people know what terms are used now in academia and what we’ve learned since Hitlers day. I believe Hitler would have been in favor of using up to date terms. Theyre not jewed imo, and they let people know that youve done your research.
Interestingly the slavs like russians and poles have more ancestry from steppe herder/Yamnaya populations than germanics, even the scandis. Germanics have anatolian neolithic farmer ancestry which makes them closer to south Europe. So the differences between groups is due to more than one group having more of “the good stuff” than the other.
PostWallHelena -1 points 3 months ago
Hitler was using a term that social scientists were using in the day. At that time we did not know as much about our evolution as the European race. We now know that the Aryan tribes ( people who actually called themselves aryans) share common ancestry with germanics, slavs, greeks, etc in the Pontic Caspian Steppe Herder people, often now referred to as proto-indo-europeans (although that is correctly just a linguistic category) or Yamnaya/Yamna people ( a genetic population of steppe herders). I think steppe herder or PIE is a better term for what most people around here mean when they say Aryan.
But northern europeans aren’t directly descended from steppe herders, they are descended from the people of Corded Ware Culture, whic was a mix of steppe herders and some other people living in situ in northern europe, mostly funnel beaker culture. Greeks and armenians do not descend from this group. But slavs, germanics, celts, latins, and aryans were.
The group that you are using Aryan to refer to seems to me to be just germanics: germans, dutch, scandinavians, englishman, etc., hold the slavs/celts/italics/indo-iranians. Thats fine. I know how most people use the term. I just like to let people know what terms are used now in academia and what we’ve learned since Hitlers day. I believe Hitler would have been in favor of using up to date terms. Theyre not jewed imo, and they let people know that youve done your research.
Interestingly the slavs like russians and poles have more ancestry from steppe herder/Yamnaya populations than germanics, even the scandis. Germanics have anatolian neolithic farmer ancestry which makes them closer to south Europe. So the differences between groups is due to more than one group having more of “the good stuff” than the other.