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Don't listen to the alarmists on blood clot fears

submitted by paul_neri to Australia 3 yearsApr 24, 2021 04:39:07 ago (+3/-5)     (archive.is)

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[ - ] PostWallHelena 1 point 3 yearsApr 24, 2021 13:11:39 ago (+1/-0)

I upvoted you not because I agree, just because I like to make a spectacle fighting about shit like this.

The truth is all healthy younger people are going to experience at least low levels of platelet destruction. Which will manifest paradoxically as both increased bleeding and increased clots.

The constant headaches that people are experiencing are microstrokes. Probably they will not severely impair function permanently but really.

Heavy periods are hemmorhagic due to low platelet. Miscarriages are certainly occuring.

Clots are causing heart blockages and other blockages that are causing diverse non-descript symptoms. It isn’t whether this vaccine is causing clots. Because anyone with a healthy immune system is getting clots especially with the second dose which triggers a more severe immune reaction with greater platelet loss.

Women especially those taking oral contraception will have more clots because estrogen increases clotting.

And I haven’t even mentioned autoimmune illness and allergic reactions. There is little to no upside for younger people especially women and people with autoimmune or allergy risk factors to take this jab, especially the second one which will confer little additional benefit with more than double the risk.

This is a false choice since the cure for covid is early treatment of ivermectin and hardly any healthy people under 50 are dying even without treatment.

This is a scam.

Dont worship science. Understand it for yourself. You all have white brains and an internet connection.

[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 3 yearsApr 24, 2021 13:33:46 ago (+0/-0)

I would like to add that in the course of researching this I discovered that thrombocytopenia is associated with other vaccines like MMR as well as severe viral infections other than covid.

Indeed one might argue that the covid infection is going to cause blood clots anyway so you are at risk one way or another. But for most younger people this is not true, as the infection never gets much past the respiratory tract .

[ - ] paul_neri [op] 0 points 3 yearsApr 24, 2021 20:58:16 ago (+0/-0)

Very impressive but you'd have more credibility if you told us what ed-quals you have.

[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 3 yearsApr 24, 2021 21:09:03 ago (+0/-0)

Paul I have no qualifications in the biological sciences other than I totally sperged out on everything covid for the last 14 months. Lately Ive been researching immune thrombocytopenia. I had already researched autoimmune syndrome a fair amount for personal reasons. There’s nothing they teach in the classroom that you can’t find on the internet anymore. I just read medical studies. Everything Ive said here is pretty verifiable.

[ - ] TFS 1 point 3 yearsApr 24, 2021 07:52:13 ago (+1/-0)

Keep glowing, nigger.

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[ - ] Flabbygasted 1 point 3 yearsApr 24, 2021 09:22:31 ago (+1/-0)

There is no vaccine for the cold. Whatever the gov may approve in the coming year...its not a cold vaccine. Which is what covid is... the common cold with a few man made goodies

[ - ] PostWallHelena 1 point 3 yearsApr 24, 2021 12:33:18 ago (+1/-0)

Im sorry but no. You are comparing apples and oranges here. On the one hand you have a bunch of people that are being categorized as covid deaths whenever covid is suspected as contributing to death, for EVERY DEATH. Potentially some people who are totally symptomless are falling in to this category.

Conversely you are taking vaccine related death data either from the manufacturerer of the product or from a apparantly voluntary reporting system with no quality control whatsoever. You have no idea what portion of actual deaths are actually being caused by the vaccine because there is no official system in which doctors or ME are vetting deaths for vaccine involvement. Unlike covid deaths.

Their vaccine approval process.

1. Invent a vaccine

2. Go through the charade of early human trials. Play down any problems. Pretend like you might not approve it if the results are really bad. Fudge the data

3. Launch it on the public. Another charade. Play down any problems. Pretend like you might not approve it if the results are really bad. Fudge the data.

4. After plausible amount of time in which you were presumed to be studying safety, approve the vaccine with the FDA, which was what you were going to do all along regardless of the data.

Theater.

I would like to add that the risk is not the same for all people for covid or the vaccine. The people least likely to die of the vaccine are the people most likely to die of covid and vice versa.

The people most at risk from thrombocytopenia and autoimmune illness from the vaccine are also the people least likely to die of covid— women and young people. So it is retarded to lump in the death rates from each together. Any sane approach would break out these two populations. The reason they dont is because they like to destroy information, with information. Are you aware statistics can be used to destroy useful information?

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[ - ] PostWallHelena 1 point 3 yearsApr 24, 2021 14:52:35 ago (+1/-0)

As Ive said the trials are a sham. Why should we believe big pharma data. They are not sharing all their data with us. I used to work in quality data analysis. There are a million ways to tell a lie with statistics. You dont know what the platelet levels are for the average 25 year old after taking the second shot. Did they measure this at 3 days? At 2 weeks? If they did why cant I see that information.

When you control the design of experiment, the data collection, the analysis you can bend the results pretty much to anything you want. Since even a smart scientist may have little expertise in a given field you are trusting researchers to provide relavant data. Which big fucking pharma and the CDC wont.

This is what happened with HCQ. They couldnt make any money or political hay off HCQ which will WORK well on early stage covid. So they designed experiments using late stage patients and biased (non-randomized) data from cherry picked data sets . They abused propensity scoring and p-hacking to obtain the desired results, i.e. Hydroxychloroquine doesn’t work. And so millions died needlessly.

You do know Anthony Fauci directly funded the projects that created this virus. No? Why can we trust the system to properly collect and analyze data at this point?

I dont really need studies to back up the assertion that young people are more susceptible to these adverse reactions. But you can look at adverse effects data by age group and vaccine brand if you want on the CDC website. Old people have fewer of both mild and serious adverse reactions reported.

Which is no surprise if you understand what causes immune thrombocytopenia and what causes autoimmune syndromes.
They are both more common in younger people because younger people have stronger immune reactions. Any immune reaction can potentially cause thrombocytopenia and autoimmune syndrome. Anyone with a family history of any autoimmune syndrome is much more prone to develop ANY OTHER autoimmune syndrome as the result of ANY immune reaction. Younger females are 5 to 10x more likely to devolop autoimmune syndromes than their male counterparts and incidence or autoimmunity drop off precipitously after 55. Females in the reproductive age range have dramatically increased chance of clotting due to estrogen levels especially when taking oral contraception.

They aren’t going to perform the study that will accurately quantify the risk of developing clinically significant thrombocytopenia. You will never see that percentage published because it is probably incredibly high in young people. Most will just get over it. They have still never properly quantified the long term risk of getting an autoimmune disease from MMR or HPV or any other vax. Why should this be different.

Many will develop an autoimmune syndrome which will remain sub-clinical for months or years and they will never even link it with the vax when they do get diagnosed. Because they are dumb.

If you understand how these illnesses work then you know that they should be naturally expected and it is encumbent to prove that they are indeed extremely rare. They haven’t done that and they wont do that. The data collection system that you are relying on does not quantify frequency of clinical thrombocytopenia and does not ensure that all adverse reactions are captured. You would need to query every vaccine recipient a week later to colllect that data. You would need to do random blood testing of vaccine recipients and publish that data. That has not happened.

[ - ] AOUsYamaka 0 points 3 yearsApr 24, 2021 10:53:11 ago (+0/-0)

Helena is that you? Stop Thelma you’re embarrassing me.

[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 3 yearsApr 24, 2021 12:06:18 ago (+0/-0)

That is not me. I am an alarmist who spreads blood clot fear, thank you very much.

[ - ] AOUsYamaka 0 points 3 yearsApr 24, 2021 12:57:07 ago (+0/-0)

Thanks Helena.