And just imagine if she had some powerful hallucinogenics(which I believe she did) and she was sending people on an incredible "trip". They could be describing that as best as they could around 300 BC. The "flying chariot" could be an out of body intense trip similar to a DMT experience. That rips you out of your body and it sends you into the center of the universe. I suspect they're trying to describe an experience like that in coded terms. This was all incredibly secret and esoteric back then.
The act of applying an ointment creating the "anointed one" or "christos" in Greek. They had applicators, one was a dildo, one was a wand with a sponge to apply to the eyes. Mary was known as Mary "purple fingers". Hmmm
You fail to understand this all happened a very long time before abrahamic religions existed. Baptism is meaningless in this argument.
Huh? Spiritual experiences, have you ever had one? If you haven't had a personal spiritual experience removed from religion you really have no base to talk from.
This is about the jews hijacking spiritualism that was in a renaissance 1200 years before christianity existed.
Source for what exactly, tell me. The specific drugs used is defined explicitly, especially during Jesus' time. He came 1200 years after Medea, she originated these practices.
Refute the sources directly, I'm ready to argue what the translations really mean. Much of it is up to interpretation. Are you an ancient Greek scholar?
I came to realize as well around my junior year in college that I was being groomed to be a good corporate slave. Knowing just enough to do the job diligently, but not enough to question power.
Here's a decent translation of Medea creating a brew of many of the things used at the time to create visionary states.
English rendering of Metamorphoses 7.262-293
262 She ordered Aeson’s exhausted body hauled outside into the open air.
263 A chant dropped him into a drug-thick, dreamless sleep;
264 she stretched him, corpse-still, on a mattress of fresh-cut herbs.
265 Then—keep clear, she warned—Jason and every servant backed away,
266 their “profane eyes” barred from witch-business. They scattered.
267 Medea, hair loose like a maenad, circled the roaring altars;
268 many-branched torches plunged into a trench of clotted black blood,
269 re-lit at twin hearths. Three times she smudged the old man with flame,
270 three times with water, three times with biting sulphur smoke.
271 Meanwhile a bronze cauldron raged—white foam bulged over its rim—
272 boiling valley-cut roots, seeds, dark juices and flower-heads.
273 She lobbed in gems mined from the edge of the sunrise,
274 sand polished by the Ocean’s ebb, frost skimmed at midnight moonrise,
275 the screech-owl’s cursed wings and meat, slaver from a wolf
that swaps brute muzzle for a man’s,
276 the thin scaled skin of a Libyan water-snake, a stag’s long-lived liver,
277 plus the beak and skull of a crow that had outlasted nine human lifetimes.
278 Add a thousand nameless nasties: that’s the brew she stirred,
279 using a dead-dry olive branch. It greened, then leafed,
280 then sagged with sudden olives—proof her soup was working.
281 Hot drops spat from the pot; where they hit, grass and flowers burst up.
282 Seeing the sign, she slit the old man’s throat, drained the stale blood,
283 and pumped the boiling liquor into his empty veins—he gulped it too.
284 Grey whiskers blackened; wasted flesh filled out; pallor fled.
285 Deep wrinkles plumped smooth, thin limbs muscled up.
286 Stunned, Aeson stared—recognising the face he’d worn forty years back.
287 The spectacle left even sky-high Bacchus gaping.
Below is Apollonius’ vivid description of Medea preparing the “Promethean” salve for Jason (Argonautica 3.844-868).
The English is R. C. Seaton’s Loeb translation
⟦844⟧ Meanwhile Medea took from her hollow casket a charm men call the Promethean salve.
If a man anoint his body with it—having first appeased the Maiden Hecate alone-born with a secret midnight offering—
no edge of bronze can wound him, nor will blazing fire make him flinch;
for that whole day he will out-match himself in strength and daring.
⟦848⟧ The herb first sprouted when the eagle that gnawed Prometheus’ liver
let fall upon Caucasus’ crags the blood-like ichor of the tortured Titan.
Its crocus-coloured flower rises a cubit high on twin stalks,
while the root beneath the soil is the fresh red of raw flesh.
⟦853⟧ Its dark sap, thick as mountain-oak resin, Medea had once gathered
into a Caspian shell. First she had bathed in seven ever-flowing streams
and called seven times on Brimo—night-wandering nurse of youths,
queen below who roams the dead—clad in the blackness of midnight.
At the cutting of the Titan’s root the earth itself had bellowed,
and Prometheus groaned aloud, his soul racked with pain.
⟦860⟧ Now she hid the drug inside the fragrant girdle that clasped
her shining bosom, mounted her swift chariot, and took the reins;
two handmaids ran beside, gripping the rear rail, robes kilted high.
Through the city she drove; people shrank aside from the princess’s gaze.
⟦865⟧ And as Artemis, fresh from the bright stream of Parthenius or Amnisus,
urges her light-footed deer across the hills to greet a steaming hecatomb,
the nymphs throng round her and even the wild beasts fawn—
so Medea sped across the plain toward Hecate’s lonely shrine,
intent on the stranger’s fate and the dark bargain she had set in motion.
Whatever you tried to use just now is actually retarded, and you should never use it again, was it Grok? Don't tell me it was Grok. That's the dumbest one, I've been training my own..
Below is Apollonius’ vivid description of Medea preparing the “Promethean” salve for Jason (Argonautica 3.844-868).
The English is R. C. Seaton’s Loeb translation, lightly modernised for readability; line-numbers in ⟦brackets⟧ follow the Greek text.
⟦844⟧ Meanwhile Medea took from her hollow casket a charm men call the Promethean salve.
If a man anoint his body with it—having first appeased the Maiden Hecate alone-born with a secret midnight offering—
no edge of bronze can wound him, nor will blazing fire make him flinch;
for that whole day he will out-match himself in strength and daring.
⟦848⟧ The herb first sprouted when the eagle that gnawed Prometheus’ liver
let fall upon Caucasus’ crags the blood-like ichor of the tortured Titan.
Its crocus-coloured flower rises a cubit high on twin stalks,
while the root beneath the soil is the fresh red of raw flesh.
⟦853⟧ Its dark sap, thick as mountain-oak resin, Medea had once gathered
into a Caspian shell. First she had bathed in seven ever-flowing streams
and called seven times on Brimo—night-wandering nurse of youths,
queen below who roams the dead—clad in the blackness of midnight.
At the cutting of the Titan’s root the earth itself had bellowed,
and Prometheus groaned aloud, his soul racked with pain.
⟦860⟧ Now she hid the drug inside the fragrant girdle that clasped
her shining bosom, mounted her swift chariot, and took the reins;
two handmaids ran beside, gripping the rear rail, robes kilted high.
Through the city she drove; people shrank aside from the princess’s gaze.
⟦865⟧ And as Artemis, fresh from the bright stream of Parthenius or Amnisus,
urges her light-footed deer across the hills to greet a steaming hecatomb,
the nymphs throng round her and even the wild beasts fawn—
so Medea sped across the plain toward Hecate’s lonely shrine,
intent on the stranger’s fate and the dark bargain she had set in motion.
How you could come to the conclusion I'm a talmudist after what I've given is comically hilarious, and devoid of logic and reason.
I'm training an AI because there's a lot of texts that still need to be translated, or have been translated very poorly.
Training a home AI, in between mining crypto I train this AI on my small gpu farm. I'm on an actual pursuit of the truth, not reading a sand nigger rendition of spiritual practices defined 1000 years prior.
She was basically the most famous person in antiquity for reasons. People would travel from all over the place to watch her breathe fire. We don't have a good description of what that entailed, but people would travel a long ways to watch it, so it must have been something.
You also need to know Greek scholars argue over the translations to this day, it's one of the reasons I am trying to find the real truth, not some jewish bullshit.
"A secret drug, which grew from Promethean roots;
she anointed his shining body, so that he might have
a mighty, invincible hide through its strength."
(Note: Viper’s blood appears later at 3.861: "δράκοντος αἷμα"—"dragon’s [viper’s] blood." Mandrake and murex are NOT mentioned but could be implied as a known addition.)
I misquoted there's alot here's the correct section, I'm human I can be wrong. You see how that works?
Here's the corrected sections for you to read from.
Medea’s Venom-Dye-Mandrake Anointing (Jason’s Protection)
Source: Apollonius Rhodius, Argonautica 3.844–868
Key Text:
"She anointed him with a secret ointment (φάρμακον ἀρρήκτοιο), which she had prepared from the sap of Promethean herbs (likely mandrake) and viper’s blood, mixed with murex dye. His body became invulnerable, his limbs filled with terrible strength."
2. Medea’s Resurrection Cauldron (Aeson’s Rejuvenation)
Source: Ovid, Metamorphoses 7.262–293
Key Text:
"She slit the old man’s throat, drained his blood, and filled his veins with a brew of venom, opium, and herbs. Then she cast him into a bronze cauldron... and he emerged youthful."
3. Medea’s Poison Robe (Murder of Glauce)
Source: Euripides, Medea 1156–1220
Key Text:
"The robe, steeped in alkanna root and strychnos, clung to her flesh. Foam bubbled at her mouth; her eyes rolled back; blood burst from her skin."
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Yep, then the kikes from the CDC say it is "fact", and now you go to jail silly goy.
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Every birth is a sale, human or animal.
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I literally clapped. That was amazing.
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And just imagine if she had some powerful hallucinogenics(which I believe she did) and she was sending people on an incredible "trip". They could be describing that as best as they could around 300 BC. The "flying chariot" could be an out of body intense trip similar to a DMT experience. That rips you out of your body and it sends you into the center of the universe. I suspect they're trying to describe an experience like that in coded terms. This was all incredibly secret and esoteric back then.
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The act of applying an ointment creating the "anointed one" or "christos" in Greek. They had applicators, one was a dildo, one was a wand with a sponge to apply to the eyes. Mary was known as Mary "purple fingers". Hmmm
You fail to understand this all happened a very long time before abrahamic religions existed. Baptism is meaningless in this argument.
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Huh? Spiritual experiences, have you ever had one? If you haven't had a personal spiritual experience removed from religion you really have no base to talk from.
This is about the jews hijacking spiritualism that was in a renaissance 1200 years before christianity existed.
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Source for what exactly, tell me. The specific drugs used is defined explicitly, especially during Jesus' time. He came 1200 years after Medea, she originated these practices.
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Religion was created from the visions induced from drug usage created by Medea 1000 years after the fact by jews to control the goyim.
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What evidence do you want specifically, I'll show you.
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Refute the sources directly, I'm ready to argue what the translations really mean. Much of it is up to interpretation. Are you an ancient Greek scholar?
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I came to realize as well around my junior year in college that I was being groomed to be a good corporate slave. Knowing just enough to do the job diligently, but not enough to question power.
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We're all trying to hold onto hope and optimism, but it's not looking good.
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Abrahamic religions fighting, just as the jews intended.
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Here's a decent translation of Medea creating a brew of many of the things used at the time to create visionary states.
English rendering of Metamorphoses 7.262-293
262 She ordered Aeson’s exhausted body hauled outside into the open air.
263 A chant dropped him into a drug-thick, dreamless sleep;
264 she stretched him, corpse-still, on a mattress of fresh-cut herbs.
265 Then—keep clear, she warned—Jason and every servant backed away,
266 their “profane eyes” barred from witch-business. They scattered.
267 Medea, hair loose like a maenad, circled the roaring altars;
268 many-branched torches plunged into a trench of clotted black blood,
269 re-lit at twin hearths. Three times she smudged the old man with flame,
270 three times with water, three times with biting sulphur smoke.
271 Meanwhile a bronze cauldron raged—white foam bulged over its rim—
272 boiling valley-cut roots, seeds, dark juices and flower-heads.
273 She lobbed in gems mined from the edge of the sunrise,
274 sand polished by the Ocean’s ebb, frost skimmed at midnight moonrise,
275 the screech-owl’s cursed wings and meat, slaver from a wolf
that swaps brute muzzle for a man’s,
276 the thin scaled skin of a Libyan water-snake, a stag’s long-lived liver,
277 plus the beak and skull of a crow that had outlasted nine human lifetimes.
278 Add a thousand nameless nasties: that’s the brew she stirred,
279 using a dead-dry olive branch. It greened, then leafed,
280 then sagged with sudden olives—proof her soup was working.
281 Hot drops spat from the pot; where they hit, grass and flowers burst up.
282 Seeing the sign, she slit the old man’s throat, drained the stale blood,
283 and pumped the boiling liquor into his empty veins—he gulped it too.
284 Grey whiskers blackened; wasted flesh filled out; pallor fled.
285 Deep wrinkles plumped smooth, thin limbs muscled up.
286 Stunned, Aeson stared—recognising the face he’d worn forty years back.
287 The spectacle left even sky-high Bacchus gaping.
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Studying Jesus the Christos, and the very well documented drugs they were using led me to Medea. Wild isn't it.
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whatever AI you're trying to use to refute me is retarded
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Below is Apollonius’ vivid description of Medea preparing the “Promethean” salve for Jason (Argonautica 3.844-868).
The English is R. C. Seaton’s Loeb translation
⟦844⟧ Meanwhile Medea took from her hollow casket a charm men call the Promethean salve.
If a man anoint his body with it—having first appeased the Maiden Hecate alone-born with a secret midnight offering—
no edge of bronze can wound him, nor will blazing fire make him flinch;
for that whole day he will out-match himself in strength and daring.
⟦848⟧ The herb first sprouted when the eagle that gnawed Prometheus’ liver
let fall upon Caucasus’ crags the blood-like ichor of the tortured Titan.
Its crocus-coloured flower rises a cubit high on twin stalks,
while the root beneath the soil is the fresh red of raw flesh.
⟦853⟧ Its dark sap, thick as mountain-oak resin, Medea had once gathered
into a Caspian shell. First she had bathed in seven ever-flowing streams
and called seven times on Brimo—night-wandering nurse of youths,
queen below who roams the dead—clad in the blackness of midnight.
At the cutting of the Titan’s root the earth itself had bellowed,
and Prometheus groaned aloud, his soul racked with pain.
⟦860⟧ Now she hid the drug inside the fragrant girdle that clasped
her shining bosom, mounted her swift chariot, and took the reins;
two handmaids ran beside, gripping the rear rail, robes kilted high.
Through the city she drove; people shrank aside from the princess’s gaze.
⟦865⟧ And as Artemis, fresh from the bright stream of Parthenius or Amnisus,
urges her light-footed deer across the hills to greet a steaming hecatomb,
the nymphs throng round her and even the wild beasts fawn—
so Medea sped across the plain toward Hecate’s lonely shrine,
intent on the stranger’s fate and the dark bargain she had set in motion.
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Whatever you tried to use just now is actually retarded, and you should never use it again, was it Grok? Don't tell me it was Grok. That's the dumbest one, I've been training my own..
Below is Apollonius’ vivid description of Medea preparing the “Promethean” salve for Jason (Argonautica 3.844-868).
The English is R. C. Seaton’s Loeb translation, lightly modernised for readability; line-numbers in ⟦brackets⟧ follow the Greek text.
⟦844⟧ Meanwhile Medea took from her hollow casket a charm men call the Promethean salve.
If a man anoint his body with it—having first appeased the Maiden Hecate alone-born with a secret midnight offering—
no edge of bronze can wound him, nor will blazing fire make him flinch;
for that whole day he will out-match himself in strength and daring.
⟦848⟧ The herb first sprouted when the eagle that gnawed Prometheus’ liver
let fall upon Caucasus’ crags the blood-like ichor of the tortured Titan.
Its crocus-coloured flower rises a cubit high on twin stalks,
while the root beneath the soil is the fresh red of raw flesh.
⟦853⟧ Its dark sap, thick as mountain-oak resin, Medea had once gathered
into a Caspian shell. First she had bathed in seven ever-flowing streams
and called seven times on Brimo—night-wandering nurse of youths,
queen below who roams the dead—clad in the blackness of midnight.
At the cutting of the Titan’s root the earth itself had bellowed,
and Prometheus groaned aloud, his soul racked with pain.
⟦860⟧ Now she hid the drug inside the fragrant girdle that clasped
her shining bosom, mounted her swift chariot, and took the reins;
two handmaids ran beside, gripping the rear rail, robes kilted high.
Through the city she drove; people shrank aside from the princess’s gaze.
⟦865⟧ And as Artemis, fresh from the bright stream of Parthenius or Amnisus,
urges her light-footed deer across the hills to greet a steaming hecatomb,
the nymphs throng round her and even the wild beasts fawn—
so Medea sped across the plain toward Hecate’s lonely shrine,
intent on the stranger’s fate and the dark bargain she had set in motion.
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How you could come to the conclusion I'm a talmudist after what I've given is comically hilarious, and devoid of logic and reason.
I'm training an AI because there's a lot of texts that still need to be translated, or have been translated very poorly.
Training a home AI, in between mining crypto I train this AI on my small gpu farm. I'm on an actual pursuit of the truth, not reading a sand nigger rendition of spiritual practices defined 1000 years prior.
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She was basically the most famous person in antiquity for reasons. People would travel from all over the place to watch her breathe fire. We don't have a good description of what that entailed, but people would travel a long ways to watch it, so it must have been something.
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You also need to know Greek scholars argue over the translations to this day, it's one of the reasons I am trying to find the real truth, not some jewish bullshit.
You must be jewish, btw.
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Yes, that is exactly what I'm proposing, the jews took the "annointed one" and put the term christ to it.
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Greek is all about context of the story as well
1. Medea’s Anointing of Jason (Apollonius Rhodius, Argonautica 3.844–868)
Greek (3.844–868):
"φάρμακον ἀρρήκτοιο, τό οἱ Προμηθείῃσιν
ἕρπυσιν ἐκπέφυεν· καί οἱ δέμας ἀμφὶ φαεινὸν
χρίεσκεν, ὄφρ’ ἔμπεδον κρατερὸν δέρος ἀλκῇ ἔχῃσιν."
Translation:
"A secret drug, which grew from Promethean roots;
she anointed his shining body, so that he might have
a mighty, invincible hide through its strength."
(Note: Viper’s blood appears later at 3.861: "δράκοντος αἷμα"—"dragon’s [viper’s] blood." Mandrake and murex are NOT mentioned but could be implied as a known addition.)
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I misquoted there's alot here's the correct section, I'm human I can be wrong. You see how that works?
Here's the corrected sections for you to read from.
Medea’s Venom-Dye-Mandrake Anointing (Jason’s Protection)
Source: Apollonius Rhodius, Argonautica 3.844–868
Key Text:
"She anointed him with a secret ointment (φάρμακον ἀρρήκτοιο), which she had prepared from the sap of Promethean herbs (likely mandrake) and viper’s blood, mixed with murex dye. His body became invulnerable, his limbs filled with terrible strength."
2. Medea’s Resurrection Cauldron (Aeson’s Rejuvenation)
Source: Ovid, Metamorphoses 7.262–293
Key Text:
"She slit the old man’s throat, drained his blood, and filled his veins with a brew of venom, opium, and herbs. Then she cast him into a bronze cauldron... and he emerged youthful."
Viper venom → peptides stimulate cell proliferation (modern studies confirm nerve-growth factors).
3. Medea’s Poison Robe (Murder of Glauce)
Source: Euripides, Medea 1156–1220
Key Text:
"The robe, steeped in alkanna root and strychnos, clung to her flesh. Foam bubbled at her mouth; her eyes rolled back; blood burst from her skin."
There's the correct sources, thanks for checking
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