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The older they get the more forward and brutal you can be. Seriously. You can turn a man-hating, 40yo feminist into a pussy cat in very short order. All you gotta do is throw their shit back at them and then tell them you'll make them come like they never have before. Then just hate fuck them like they want to be hate fucked. You don't need to actually hate them you just need to fuck them as hard as they think they hate themselves, if that makes sense.

Young guys generally don't understand this. Old guys and women do, though.