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I was monitoring a Christian couple's counseling, i weep for the amount of horrible advice given to these people by neo liberal church doctrine

submitted by niggaswaywhat to Rants 4 weeksApr 16, 2024 09:12:27 ago (+29/-0)     (Rants)

There's only so much you can counteract at once, but holy shit, I weep for this new generation of men having to deal with these hyper entitled spiritual Narcissistic cunts. Some gems from the couple's counseling I had to endure:

This one guy was running his own business and had to travel for part of the year. The complaint was that he should GIVE UP his business and become a W2 employee because wife felt lonely. Did the wife try to find new hobbies? Fuck no. They 100% blamed the man who was furnishing her entire lifestyle to be around more. As always, here comes the church siding with ... the wife.

Another guy said his wife was too verbally abusive. Based off how the wife was talking, and based off prior experience, I completely understood what he was talking about. Was the church's response to find ways to ensure she could speak without being hostile, and self reflecting on how her actions can be perceived by others? Fuck that, it's the man's fault. The guy got told he needed to cater to his wife some more because fuck you! See when women decide to act like rabid cunts, its the man's fault because wife is always right. Even when she's dead wrong and clearly bitching about nonsense, you gotta just listen and believe! Ephesians is outdated, were all about progressivist bullshit now. The woman will be even more hostile and violent, as she's been enabled by a church that her horrid actions are now justified.

They had a guest speaker come in about "refuge" work in some middle eastern shithole( I suspect its either Egypt or Syria, he didn't say). Their primary problem was the border control of the country as kicking out anyone who was there illegally. Did the church stop and reflect if breaking laws of another country was a Christian thing to do? As always, self reflection was nowhere to be found. Not that they were ever welcome before, but the complaint was the country had decided to institute the death penalty on people smugglers. Typical jewish behavior, subvert a nation than SCREAM when that nation kicks you ass to the curb.

And there's many more such instance, these were just the more apparent ones. I highly highly doubt there is much that can be done for these relationships. Through the church enabling them, these womn think they are gods amongst men. Everything they decress is gospel. Their requests are demands that must be met. They dont want a husband, they want doormats, men who grovel to them. This has cemented my idea that modern churches are some of the most evil, vindictive, spiteful places in existence.

I'm no longer welcome at this church and was told my "advice" was problematic. I know im not perfect, and as i got more redpilled and older I held to my convictions. I realize that i was conditioned (and to a large degree, I accepted these conditions making me complicit). I made amends of my behavior to the kids, apologized. But now that Im awake, the road to help others is riddled with back stabbers, traitors, yes men, and all kinds of horrid influences. And yet, i will never give up the fight, and will never back down.


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it is clearly talking about a son who has grown.

Does it? Or are you presuming a context because the command makes you uncomfortable?

What if someone proposed that they had a right to stone their rebellious son to death and that you as a fellow man of the city had an obligation to join in stoning that man's son?

"If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that, when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them: Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him out unto the elders of his city, and unto the gate of his place; And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard. And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear, and fear." - Deut 21:18-21

We don't currently stone college drunkards. But the concept of equivalence exists in the law. Just as an eye for an eye does not necessitate an actual eye be paid (an equivalent or better monetary compensation may be rendered), so too may different ordinances have acceptable equivalent payments. Instead of sacrificing animals per Leviticus, the superior sacrifice of Christ is the accepted substitute. The form may differ but the substance remains the same. That is an underlying truth within payment by equivalency.

Sometimes that can create the appearance of an exception to the rule. And in the sense of form, that is genuinely how it comes across, but in respect to substance, exceptions don't exist.

So when God permitted the "graven images" of cherubim and bronze snake, this is a sign of the fact that the substance of what was being said wasn't a blanket statement about 3D art. The purpose was a warning against that which leads to idolatry. Imagery that points to the greatness of God is contextually different than imagery designed to evoke worship for something man-made.

To ignore the cherubim on the ark, and the metal snake would be to suggest that there would be a contradiction in scripture. As a Catholic, I don't believe scripture contradicts itself, therefore I am left with the conclusion that some forms of 3D art are not "graven images" in the context of Mosaic law.

I cannot fathom how those two piece can be reconciled in any other way.