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i have learned that a business associate of mine is jewish.

submitted by drstrangergov to whatever 6 monthsOct 29, 2024 12:06:13 ago (+45/-0)     (whatever)

when i say "business associate", i mean that in the loosest sense. we give each other business opportunities that the other is better suited for. i was sitting with him and another "associate" recently in a social, private setting. kicking back after a long work day and just talking. these two gentlemen informed me that they were both ethnically jewish athiests, and not white. they informed me "its the white guys that have been fucking everyone over in the government". being exposed to you guys for as long as i have been, i was surprised but prepared for this information. a few minutes later, they both tried the "fellow white person" tack about white peoples response to things we are all learning in the world. i said "STOP. you guys JUST told me you weren't white. you made it clear that i bear the responsibility for everything thats been done, even though i've shared none of the benefits or even knowlege of it. why on earth would i include you in my in-group when you've excluded yourselves from the burden of it? going forward, i will still consider you my friends, but there is no "us" or "we"." i saw genuine fear on their faces. it was an interesting conversation.


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conrad 3 points 6 months ago

All the ones saying they won't throw you any business anymore I'd take bets on being wrong.
About half of jews are incredibly vindicative, the other half are far more forgiving, and willing to overlook all sorts of slights and disagreements to maintain a business relationship.

More likely, knowing what I know, they were expecting you to equivocate. They were testing the water to see where you stand. If you'd gone along with it, they likely had a larger opportunity for you, with the understanding you are now 'we' or 'us' on business matters by your silence. It's a tactic to check someone's alignment and subordinate them when brought into the fold.

Basically you failed the casualness or 'vibe' test.

A real Jew or a long-time associate that was properly aligned on interests would have understood this as a a soft-opening for a business offer.

They were letting their guard down just enough to see if you could be one of the guys.

Apparently you can't.

Don't believe me? The Jews did business with the national socialists. The Jews did business with the soviets that drove them out after they took over russia. They Jews did business with china, and continue to, even though china rejects their advances into chinese society.
The Jews do business with the extreme anti-zionist left, and the antizionist right.

They, or us (if I can get away with using 'us') are first and foremost about business.
Everything else can be forgiven if there is positive history there and this was a first time faux pas. Of course this varies between groups and individuals but it is no reason to assume you are completely out.

They may also try to milk the apology tour if they assign you one (shit business deals), so the first thing you do is you don't apologize with words, you apologize with actions and act like you never said what you said, because apologies are like blood in a shark tank.
Someone that didn't mean it would never have to apologize in the first place, the thinking goes. What matters is if your actions reflect that you're still with the program whatever your disagreements may be.

We are a society of voracious debaters, vehement disagreement, and ferocious opinion. Swim upstream or not at all. Meandering in the eddies is for fish, fish that get eaten.

How does a Jew open a business meeting and make everyone comfortable and receptive?

"Fucking white people, am I right?"

It's a phrase that means nothing, a shit-test. Judaism is a giant collection of absolute sovereigns, the only connection they have at all is a completely tenous link to Judaism, otherwise we are the ultimate individualists.

Anyone who isn't completely disconnected from all other identities, will fail this test sooner or later.
A simple, but very hardcore, opening bit, that sorts the people who recognize a nothingburger throw-away comment from the casuals who don't belong and still have secondary collectivist identities and associations.

In short, is your identity more important than your business? Thats what they wanted to know. In group or out group.

A Jew, a psychopath, a hyper individualized person, all of them will pass this test. Anyone thats not likely won't.