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when i say "business associate", i mean that in the loosest sense. we give each other business opportunities that the other is better suited for. i was sitting with him and another "associate" recently in a social, private setting. kicking back after a long work day and just talking. these two gentlemen informed me that they were both ethnically jewish athiests, and not white. they informed me "its the white guys that have been fucking everyone over in the government". being exposed to you guys for as long as i have been, i was surprised but prepared for this information. a few minutes later, they both tried the "fellow white person" tack about white peoples response to things we are all learning in the world. i said "STOP. you guys JUST told me you weren't white. you made it clear that i bear the responsibility for everything thats been done, even though i've shared none of the benefits or even knowlege of it. why on earth would i include you in my in-group when you've excluded yourselves from the burden of it? going forward, i will still consider you my friends, but there is no "us" or "we"." i saw genuine fear on their faces. it was an interesting conversation.