Hey, back when 9/11 happened, I was already one of those who followed the conspiracy angle (eg. photos of the P3nt@gon were never released, it looked like controlled demo as stated by construction experts, etc.).
I already knew how Powell lied and said there were WMDs in 7 cities in Iraq which was not true. And that the decision to go to war bypassed Congress with no repercussions.
I already knew that there were mass protests around the world and the popular opinion didn't support it. I knew the media connected 9/11 to Iraq as if they were related in the same way that Afghanistan was.
I know about the 5 d@ncing Isr@3llis that were there. But not much else about them.
But this talk of Mossad came out of nowhere. It's the first time I'm hearing about it. What's the evidence to this claim?
I'm open minded. Just show me the evidence directly (not just write a narrative in the comments) and I'll listen to what those who are claiming this have to say.
Edit: There are a couple people saying "Do it yourself." I don't even know where to look or who worked on the research.
Edit2: After spending some time on it, I didn't find anything substantial. But I think I found some fiction that people might spread around thinking that its evidence (eg. Brutalproof and darkmoon). Pointing to false flags from other wars isn't evidence for 9/11. That's suspicion, which is valid, but it's not prood.
The question isn't "Was it known in advance that an attack would happen?" which the answer is yes and has been known for almost 20 years now. The question is "Did Mossad do it?" which is the first time I'm hearing this after following 9/11 theories since I was a kid.
Still open to new evidence, but after spending time looking for the proof, I'm going to call this one bogus. I don't care if I get called a jew, shill, faggot, and whatever else. If you have something to show then show it.
I went through a few hours worth and it checks out with the narrative 9/11 sceptics always had. There was a web of massive finance, insurance, contracting, and defence companies run by some of the world's most powerful elites and managers that all seemed to have connections and interests in it. There was also media spinning of the narrative and unanswered questions.
As good as a resource this comment is for most people new to 9/11 scepticism (even with most videos getting censored), it still doesn't address the main question of the thread. Did Mossad orchestrate it or not?
I've been hearing people repeat this on several alt media platforms within the last few weeks. The people who say Mossad was responsible are all very knowledgeable about the JQ. It's a big claim to make since it competes with the narrative that hundreds of citizen investigators have come up with over the last 20 years in resources like the ones you linked.
Good sources, but no smoking gun on Mossad running the show, which is what I'm asking about specifically. Where did this claim come from?
This is the evidence I have assembled anyway :) Osama bin Laden denies guilt..
The Holocaust was an inside job, Adolf Hitler was a Jew .. Jews should be prepared for the retribution demanded by their guilt for the outrageous attacks of 911. No less than for the illegal War on Terror they are waging in the name of the United States, while the sheer volume of Jews destined for trial and execution, portends the first mass gassing of Jews since 1945.
Bush & Cheney were patsies .. the 911 attacks were carried out by Jews who have infiltrated the US social and political order at every level, along with traitors in the CIA and in the halls of Government. The under 3000 dead line is one of the mainstay falsehoods of the entire conspiracy, 2:48 PM September 11, 2001, estimates of 50,000 dead in New York were bandied about.
NIST Engineer Sunder said, "on 911 there were between 8,500 and 9,000 occupants in each building," ABC News Anchor Peter Jennings while the drama was still unfolding said, "the normal total of workers at the WTC Towers was around eighty thousand."
Sunder's total of between seventeen and eighteen thousand in the Towers, makes some sixty two thousand or so absent using Peter Jennings figures.
Evidence of Mossad Treachery at the WTC, by Ed Toner .. Nearly 500 foreign nationals from over 80 different nations, were killed in the World Trade Center. As a center of world trade and finance this is not surprising, it is known many Israelis work in the field of international trade and finance.
The laws of probability dictate there should have been a considerable number of Israelis dead. Alon Pinkas Israel’s Consul General in New York, confirmed one Israeli dead in each of the planes that crashed into the towers, and one more who had been at the WTC on business.
Lt Richard Smiouskas FDNY, 27 November 2001 .. after the North Tower air strike "an engineer got me onto the roof of WTC 2, I saw people in the windows they weren't jumping they were being forced out." The NYPD refused to attempt helicopter rescues for those trapped in the burning towers.
While the official death toll of some under three thousand is to fit the four hundred dead Jews on the official list. Who were the ones who stayed and threw others from windows according to Smiouskas testimony, who were sold out when NYPD choppers never showed up.
The shots of the Pentagon taken after impact and before the facade collapsed showed a hole about the size of a suburban garage, no sign of a plane at all, and no plane in Pennsylvania despite assertions the Happy Schmooligans blasted Flight 93 out of the sky, plenty of paper littering the landscape and burn marks in the trees but no plane.
Guided Missile at the WTC Cruise Missile at the Pentagon on 911
We talked to people who were with Larry Silverstein on 9/11, he got a phone call telling him not to show up at work, he called his daughter and she never showed up either. Rudkowski, Prison Planet.
Hey there Honey get rid of them blues Daddy’s getting money you’ll be wearin’ new shoes Turn on the telly it’ll be on the news Stay at home today like the rest of the Jews
Cause today were gonna blow… Woo Woo / Down the freakin buildings go Woo Woo / We collect the dough Woo Woo / Stay at home and watch the show… Woo Woo Woo Woodledoodledoo Rip it up Frank
Hey Man you say that four thou were away That’s a lotta bodies at the end of the day This is the way I see it don’t wanna be crass There’s a whole lotta Jews thatta gotta get put on trial ///
The American Securities and Exchange Commission says Israeli citizens sold short a list of stocks, that could reasonably be expected to fall in value as a result of the attacks. They operated out of stock exchanges in Canada and in Germany, while their profits were specifically stated to be in the hundred$ of million$ of dollars. Christopher Bollyn.
It was via the buddy system on Odigo software, which allows one to communicate to a large group of people that share a trait such as the Hebrew language, that thousands of Israelis were warned not to go to the twin towers on 9/11. RBN News
Odigo and Mossad are based in Herzliya north of Tel Aviv, after 9/11 Odigo was taken over by Comverse Technology another Israeli company, within a year five executives from Comverse were reported to have profited by more than $267 million from “insider trading.” Rumormillnews.
Then we need to take a look at the "Celebrating Jews of 911," who were taken into custody in New York on the day after filming the attack in their words to "document the event," whereas four out of the five Omer Marmari, Yaron Shmuel and Sivan & Paul Kurzberg, were residents of Brisbane Australia.
I intend to jump about in glee as they, the entire Mossad cell in Brisbane that spawned them and the Australian political hierarchy that grants them free passage, are brought to just trial and legal execution under the same US laws were breached on the day!
I read this before it got removed. I don't know why it got removed. Besides one point where he said Js were responsible for every war (which he got carried away with on his point), I thought the rest of the comment was just a harmless statement of facts. Whatever.
Still not convinced. What I learned about 9/11 years ago was that the information that it was happening was released to the US government, but the government has procedures in place to make sure intelligence was correct before taking any action (these were set up in the cold war to prevent premature retaliation strikes for false alarm nuclear threats). The reason no action was taken was because the intelligence didn't pass through the verification systems in place fast enough.
The point he made about all Congressmen not flying that day fits the narrative of a rumor that couldn't be confirmed fast enough, so US intelligence could have told Congress to not fly just in case.
But he didn't post a way to even get this information on whether Congress did in fact not fly. I'd basically be taking random some guy's word for it through a forum online.
Still not convinced. But I'm open to more evidence. Trying to evaluate this fairly.
Edit: I guess the website glitched. The comment I thought got deleted was posted above, which wasn't there when I refreshed
Best answer... but I will type some short facts here to piss of the SPLC ADL and JIDF :
Its a complicated answer but factually :
1 > The most skilled agent in MOSSAD history infiltrated the terror cell WITHIN MIDDLE EAST at top levels, and knew of planning the attack that week, in order to not burn that asset Isreal only shared a LITTLE with USA, and only revealed this fact 3 years later.
2 > Mossad did not do 9/11 but was aware it was to occur, and of all nations that lost citizens in NYC.... mysteriously the ONLY NATION not represented by the dead was Israel! Interpol a year later claimed Israel was among the 77 nations of dead people, but did not provide a name proving it was from WTC specifically. 99% of Israelis stayed home that day from WTC.
3 > All US congressmen cancelled air travel prior that monday. All. THe mathematical chance on a Monday of that happening across USA is thousands to one.
4 > Airline stocks shorted heavily by jew friends of Mossad that morning. Hundreds of millions of dollars made shorting airline stocks. 40 percent more shorted for 40 day period, and 200% more shorted for one week period of UAL stock. Over 4.39 million shares of UAL shorted over three weeks and few other airlines shorted. AMR (American) the only other hijacked planes, were ALSO dramatically shorted by Mossad for Sept 11, but not as much as UAL stock.
5 > Dancing Israelis danced because Mossad knew that they were able to provoke USA into doing wars for the Jews soon. Jews started or financed nearly every war in history, and this was no exception. The Revolutionary War? 100% Jews started that. The Spanish American war? Jews too. WW1 ? Jews. WW2??? 100% Jew started.
TL/DR : It is a concrete fact that Mossad knew of the attack that day BEFORE it happened, but muslims did it.
All i typed is easy to look up.
Note : I said ISRAELI CITIZEN working at WTC, not jewish faith worshippers. A common Pilpul jew trick is to claim a dead US citizen who may be a jew disproves my facts. A second infamous jew pilpul logic trick is to list a DUAL CITIZEN of a US born citizen with jew travel extra passport, but not a real Israeli citizen. One 5th of Democrats in US congress count as Israelis using that Jew lie logic.
I thought your comment got deleted. See my response to the deleted comment about this one.
Can I get the source of into for the Congress not flying part?
Is there a graphic for the flight stocks? I'd like to see it, especially for UAL. I dont know how to find shorted stock history when looking at old stock data.
Do you also know where to find demographic info on victims. I don't know where to get that. Link? NYC is something like 13% Jewish. I used the numbers from Jewish population estimates in raw numbers from Wikipedia and compared that to the total number of people (since the census counts Jews as Whites). Some estimates differ by a lot though.
Thanks for writing this out. I don't want to just take an anonymous commentor's word for it, so I'd like to see some backup data.
If what you're saying checks out, then it seems like the narrative fits the description of "some people knew about it, but the information couldn't be verified or released in full, so a network of rabbis informed Jews in NYC and Congress was told about it in precaution." I already knew that Bush knew of a possible attack but couldn't react in time.
This is definitely much different than "they did it." Still, I'm open minded. I'm trying to be correct about this, and we should be too. Otherwise this will get used by some agency as justification for adding funding to censorship departments for "removing misinformation"
PS. Please don't make exaggerated points like 5. The deep state runs machine learning algorithms on various sites to censor posts or take websites down better by finding "hate speech." That point would trigger a positive. Just say the information correctly and concisely. If they did start X, Y, and Z wars then I'm willing to hear people out. It's hard enough to judge credibility on anonymous forums.
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Do your own homework, I typed 100% FACTS.
Factual information.
Because of your fucking assumptions that my point 5 is in any way erroneous, I will only take time to address a tiny bit of my 5 FACTUAL statements.
SHORTED STOCK : from SFGate (famous paper) :
The data released yesterday is part of the NYSE's regular monthly report on short-selling. It shows that investors shorted nearly 4.39 million shares of UAL in portions of August and September. That represented an increase of 1.25 million shares, or 40 percent over the previous month's level.
I honestly think you have reading comprehension issues because you keep confusing the Jewish religion with the words "ISRAELI CITIZENS"
EVERYTHING I types was factual and 100% truthful, but now I will address just ONE war for you, and you can trivially see how jews started the rest. I will list the more overlooked REVOLUTIONARY WAR.
REVOLUTIONARY WAR started by Jews :
Two harsh laws forcing colonies to use central bank currency caused the problem !
The 3% tax schoolbooks cite is a mere scapegoat or at best a "straw that broke the camel's back"
"...American colonists to ban together to protest "taxation without representation" and the violating of their rights as British citizens, ultimately culminating in the American Revolutionary War."
HAH! That is a lie, and jew bankers were the sole cause... read now the facts ...
- Currency Act of 1751 : forbade the New England colonies from issuing paper money, only european jewish paper money allowed
- Currency Act of 1764 : all money ruled illegal, all money ruled contraband EXCEPT the european jewish controlled British pound. This caused a massive great depression in America.
The british pound currency was controlled entirely by Jewish bankers for nearly 80 years BEFORE the 1770s. :
In 1694 William of Orange granted the Bank of England its charter. It's shareholders were full of Jews with Spanish sounding names - Da Costa, A Fonseca, A Mendes, A Nunes, A Henriquez, Rodrigues, A Salvador, De Mattos, De Medina. The Jews had English banking by the balls from 1694 to this very day.
This 3% tax they teach little kids in grade school and tea party nonsense is not the list of grievances listed in great detail by the founding fathers in their papers or the "Federalist Papers" grievances :
Jews started almost all wars you can think of, even the Spanish-american war. All.
The Tea Party was a side show, but a visible one, and the biggest tax was a FOREIGN controlled tax on PAPERS used to spread information. ALL PAPER had to have a STAMP TAX mark on it.
Unregulated paper was a crime.
And NOT HAVING REPRESENTATION (elected leaders) was the main issue, but the declaration of independence list a hundred reasons for revolt but a tax was not a main issue. The only mention of Tax among the countless grievances is taxes set by foreign governments and no local Consent. READ YOURSELF! :
TL/DR : the tea party is a non-story, and in fact its well documented that JEWISH BANKERS outraged the colonists and provoked the revolutionary war.
You make me too mad to bother responding to all the rest of your JIDF shilling. I shared 100% facts with you and you keep claiming all my words are not facts.
[ - ] Bitcher [op] 1 point 2.9 yearsMay 21, 2021 05:08:51 ago (+1/-0)
What the hell was that.
I'm trying to discuss the topic like an adult by asking proper questions and you're completely freaking out. Then you get distracted and go on about the revolutionary war. Then I get called a JIDF shill. Then you say something about how I "keep claiming all your words are not facts."
Whatever.
Next time, just say "I have a link to a SFGate article about the shorts" and just post it. I swear, this reads like a fedora atheist comment from 10 years ago.
The question is still open. "They knew about it in advance" does not mean "they orchestrated it." I already knew about the former, just not in as much detail. This thread is about the latter.
Dirty fucking JEW! I never ONCE said anything of that nature!
I clearly and factually typed that the MUSLIMS DID IT!
Re-read my first comment.
I never ever EVER claimed that the muslims did not do it.
I ignored all the rest of your typing (no lie), because now I am convinced you are a jew doing pilpul and shifting narrative and making false claims and inserting fake statements into the discussions.
I NEVER ONCE EVER did not say the shit you asserted. I said the muslims did the act.
But it is a fact... All US congressmen cancelled air travel prior that monday. All. THe mathematical chance on a Monday of that happening across USA is thousands to one.
Never forget that all the israelis stayed home : President Bush, primed by his Jewish minders, announced soon after the tragedy that 130 Israelis had died in the towers. To his subsequent embarrassment, 129 of these Israelis were found to be alive and well!!!! No dead israelis! : refer also :
Did my comment not get posted? Guess not. Here's another.
The bollyn and tense links don't mention anything about Congress not flying.
The question we're asking here is not "did they know an attack would happen?" That was answered definitively shortly after 9/11. The question being asked is "did Mossad do it?"
The brutalproof link was something I read before making this thread. It was the first search result.
It's just a blog that makes the claim citing the darkmoon link. The darkmoon is a collection of quote snippets from various people where the author says he arranged them in such a way to imagine a dialogue where they're all debating if Mossad did it or not. It's fiction.
On the brutalproof link, the author cited this quote in particular:
"I have had long conversations over the past two weeks with contacts at the Army War College, at the Headquarters Marine Corps, and I have made it absolutely clear in both cases that it is 100 percent certain that 9/11 was a Mossad operation. Period"
Which is basically just saying "I talked to some army guys about who I think was behind 9/11 and I was confident in my beliefs."
If no one has anything substantial to show that Mossad did it, then we can conclude that this is bogus.
There's a lot of conspiracy around 9/11. And those theories have a lot of evidence and good points that anyone can see. But Mossad orchestrating it has nothing other than "they knew about an attack on advance" and a point about how two buildings of the same company were both in Manhattan and in the town next to Mossad HQ.
I don't know where this Mossad did it claim came from, but I'm not convinced.
This thread is to discuss this new claim I've been hearing that Mossad orchestrated it, which is looking false. That's what this thread is about. It's not about you.
Sorry I popped a blood vessel by confusing you when you realized you walked into the wrong room.
Not saying you're wrong, and I am skeptical of the way this was asked.
But.
Back in the day, about 7-8 years ago, the users on voat.co took time to explain a few things to me. They gave me some examples, I lurked on threads, read what they posted--all of which gave me the motivation to do my own research and start talking intelligently about the way of the world.
Now, I know all about the jew. Not just from a groupthink mentality ("all jews bad news") but really why they are the way they are. And why they need to all die for the White man to live.
I have a knee-jerk reaction to people asking for explanations, but you're right. There's room for a genuine response assuming the OP is sincere. It should also be noted that it takes a lot of effort and humility to face facts. As such, a genuine inquiry would not be deterred by my type of response.
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Lol ok
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Have a super day mossad apologist
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I went through a few hours worth and it checks out with the narrative 9/11 sceptics always had. There was a web of massive finance, insurance, contracting, and defence companies run by some of the world's most powerful elites and managers that all seemed to have connections and interests in it. There was also media spinning of the narrative and unanswered questions.
As good as a resource this comment is for most people new to 9/11 scepticism (even with most videos getting censored), it still doesn't address the main question of the thread. Did Mossad orchestrate it or not?
I've been hearing people repeat this on several alt media platforms within the last few weeks. The people who say Mossad was responsible are all very knowledgeable about the JQ. It's a big claim to make since it competes with the narrative that hundreds of citizen investigators have come up with over the last 20 years in resources like the ones you linked.
Good sources, but no smoking gun on Mossad running the show, which is what I'm asking about specifically. Where did this claim come from?
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The Holocaust was an inside job, Adolf Hitler was a Jew .. Jews should be prepared for the retribution demanded by their guilt for the outrageous attacks of 911. No less than for the illegal War on Terror they are waging in the name of the United States, while the sheer volume of Jews destined for trial and execution, portends the first mass gassing of Jews since 1945.
Bush & Cheney were patsies .. the 911 attacks were carried out by Jews who have infiltrated the US social and political order at every level, along with traitors in the CIA and in the halls of Government. The under 3000 dead line is one of the mainstay falsehoods of the entire conspiracy, 2:48 PM September 11, 2001, estimates of 50,000 dead in New York were bandied about.
NIST Engineer Sunder said, "on 911 there were between 8,500 and 9,000 occupants in each building," ABC News Anchor Peter Jennings while the drama was still unfolding said, "the normal total of workers at the WTC Towers was around eighty thousand."
Evidence of Mossad Treachery at the WTC, by Ed Toner .. Nearly 500 foreign nationals from over 80 different nations, were killed in the World Trade Center. As a center of world trade and finance this is not surprising, it is known many Israelis work in the field of international trade and finance.
The laws of probability dictate there should have been a considerable number of Israelis dead. Alon Pinkas Israel’s Consul General in New York, confirmed one Israeli dead in each of the planes that crashed into the towers, and one more who had been at the WTC on business.
Lt Richard Smiouskas FDNY, 27 November 2001 .. after the North Tower air strike "an engineer got me onto the roof of WTC 2, I saw people in the windows they weren't jumping they were being forced out." The NYPD refused to attempt helicopter rescues for those trapped in the burning towers.
While the official death toll of some under three thousand is to fit the four hundred dead Jews on the official list. Who were the ones who stayed and threw others from windows according to Smiouskas testimony, who were sold out when NYPD choppers never showed up.
The shots of the Pentagon taken after impact and before the facade collapsed showed a hole about the size of a suburban garage, no sign of a plane at all, and no plane in Pennsylvania despite assertions the Happy Schmooligans blasted Flight 93 out of the sky, plenty of paper littering the landscape and burn marks in the trees but no plane.
Guided Missile at the WTC
Cruise Missile at the Pentagon on 911
We talked to people who were with Larry Silverstein on 9/11, he got a phone call telling him not to show up at work, he called his daughter and she never showed up either. Rudkowski, Prison Planet.
Hey there Honey get rid of them blues
Daddy’s getting money you’ll be wearin’ new shoes
Turn on the telly it’ll be on the news
Stay at home today like the rest of the Jews
Cause today were gonna blow… Woo Woo /
Down the freakin buildings go Woo Woo /
We collect the dough Woo Woo /
Stay at home and watch the show… Woo Woo Woo Woodledoodledoo Rip it up Frank
Hey Man you say that four thou were away
That’s a lotta bodies at the end of the day
This is the way I see it don’t wanna be crass
There’s a whole lotta Jews thatta gotta get put on trial ///
The American Securities and Exchange Commission says Israeli citizens sold short a list of stocks, that could reasonably be expected to fall in value as a result of the attacks. They operated out of stock exchanges in Canada and in Germany, while their profits were specifically stated to be in the hundred$ of million$ of dollars. Christopher Bollyn.
It was via the buddy system on Odigo software, which allows one to communicate to a large group of people that share a trait such as the Hebrew language, that thousands of Israelis were warned not to go to the twin towers on 9/11. RBN News
Odigo and Mossad are based in Herzliya north of Tel Aviv, after 9/11 Odigo was taken over by Comverse Technology another Israeli company, within a year five executives from Comverse were reported to have profited by more than $267 million from “insider trading.” Rumormillnews.
Then we need to take a look at the "Celebrating Jews of 911," who were taken into custody in New York on the day after filming the attack in their words to "document the event," whereas four out of the five Omer Marmari, Yaron Shmuel and Sivan & Paul Kurzberg, were residents of Brisbane Australia.
I intend to jump about in glee as they, the entire Mossad cell in Brisbane that spawned them and the Australian political hierarchy that grants them free passage, are brought to just trial and legal execution under the same US laws were breached on the day!
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Very obvious hasbara
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Still not convinced. What I learned about 9/11 years ago was that the information that it was happening was released to the US government, but the government has procedures in place to make sure intelligence was correct before taking any action (these were set up in the cold war to prevent premature retaliation strikes for false alarm nuclear threats). The reason no action was taken was because the intelligence didn't pass through the verification systems in place fast enough.
The point he made about all Congressmen not flying that day fits the narrative of a rumor that couldn't be confirmed fast enough, so US intelligence could have told Congress to not fly just in case.
But he didn't post a way to even get this information on whether Congress did in fact not fly. I'd basically be taking random some guy's word for it through a forum online.
Still not convinced. But I'm open to more evidence. Trying to evaluate this fairly.
Edit: I guess the website glitched. The comment I thought got deleted was posted above, which wasn't there when I refreshed
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Seems to be some fuckery taking place
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not gonna happen. nobody is here to prove anything to your sorry ass.
stop being a lazy nigger and prove or disprove it to yourself.
you're a fucking faggot.
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Its a complicated answer but factually :
1 > The most skilled agent in MOSSAD history infiltrated the terror cell WITHIN MIDDLE EAST at top levels, and knew of planning the attack that week, in order to not burn that asset Isreal only shared a LITTLE with USA, and only revealed this fact 3 years later.
2 > Mossad did not do 9/11 but was aware it was to occur, and of all nations that lost citizens in NYC.... mysteriously the ONLY NATION not represented by the dead was Israel! Interpol a year later claimed Israel was among the 77 nations of dead people, but did not provide a name proving it was from WTC specifically. 99% of Israelis stayed home that day from WTC.
3 > All US congressmen cancelled air travel prior that monday. All. THe mathematical chance on a Monday of that happening across USA is thousands to one.
4 > Airline stocks shorted heavily by jew friends of Mossad that morning. Hundreds of millions of dollars made shorting airline stocks. 40 percent more shorted for 40 day period, and 200% more shorted for one week period of UAL stock. Over 4.39 million shares of UAL shorted over three weeks and few other airlines shorted. AMR (American) the only other hijacked planes, were ALSO dramatically shorted by Mossad for Sept 11, but not as much as UAL stock.
5 > Dancing Israelis danced because Mossad knew that they were able to provoke USA into doing wars for the Jews soon. Jews started or financed nearly every war in history, and this was no exception. The Revolutionary War? 100% Jews started that. The Spanish American war? Jews too. WW1 ? Jews. WW2??? 100% Jew started.
TL/DR : It is a concrete fact that Mossad knew of the attack that day BEFORE it happened, but muslims did it.
All i typed is easy to look up.
Note : I said ISRAELI CITIZEN working at WTC, not jewish faith worshippers. A common Pilpul jew trick is to claim a dead US citizen who may be a jew disproves my facts. A second infamous jew pilpul logic trick is to list a DUAL CITIZEN of a US born citizen with jew travel extra passport, but not a real Israeli citizen. One 5th of Democrats in US congress count as Israelis using that Jew lie logic.
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[ - ] Bitcher [op] 0 points 2.9 yearsMay 21, 2021 02:36:52 ago (+0/-0)
Can I get the source of into for the Congress not flying part?
Is there a graphic for the flight stocks? I'd like to see it, especially for UAL. I dont know how to find shorted stock history when looking at old stock data.
Do you also know where to find demographic info on victims. I don't know where to get that. Link? NYC is something like 13% Jewish. I used the numbers from Jewish population estimates in raw numbers from Wikipedia and compared that to the total number of people (since the census counts Jews as Whites). Some estimates differ by a lot though.
Thanks for writing this out. I don't want to just take an anonymous commentor's word for it, so I'd like to see some backup data.
If what you're saying checks out, then it seems like the narrative fits the description of "some people knew about it, but the information couldn't be verified or released in full, so a network of rabbis informed Jews in NYC and Congress was told about it in precaution." I already knew that Bush knew of a possible attack but couldn't react in time.
This is definitely much different than "they did it." Still, I'm open minded. I'm trying to be correct about this, and we should be too. Otherwise this will get used by some agency as justification for adding funding to censorship departments for "removing misinformation"
PS. Please don't make exaggerated points like 5. The deep state runs machine learning algorithms on various sites to censor posts or take websites down better by finding "hate speech." That point would trigger a positive. Just say the information correctly and concisely. If they did start X, Y, and Z wars then I'm willing to hear people out. It's hard enough to judge credibility on anonymous forums.
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[ - ] try 1 point 2.9 yearsMay 21, 2021 03:48:24 ago (+1/-0)*
Factual information.
Because of your fucking assumptions that my point 5 is in any way erroneous, I will only take time to address a tiny bit of my 5 FACTUAL statements.
SHORTED STOCK : from SFGate (famous paper) :
link : https://www.sfgate.com/business/article/Data-shows-heavy-airline-stock-short-selling-2876345.php
I honestly think you have reading comprehension issues because you keep confusing the Jewish religion with the words "ISRAELI CITIZENS"
EVERYTHING I types was factual and 100% truthful, but now I will address just ONE war for you, and you can trivially see how jews started the rest. I will list the more overlooked REVOLUTIONARY WAR.
REVOLUTIONARY WAR started by Jews :
Two harsh laws forcing colonies to use central bank currency caused the problem !
The 3% tax schoolbooks cite is a mere scapegoat or at best a "straw that broke the camel's back"
Proof :
http://www.revolutionary-war-and-beyond.com/currency-act.html
"...American colonists to ban together to protest "taxation without representation" and the violating of their rights as British citizens, ultimately culminating in the American Revolutionary War."
HAH! That is a lie, and jew bankers were the sole cause... read now the facts ...
- Currency Act of 1751 : forbade the New England colonies from issuing paper money, only european jewish paper money allowed
- Currency Act of 1764 : all money ruled illegal, all money ruled contraband EXCEPT the european jewish controlled British pound. This caused a massive great depression in America.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Currency_Act
http://www.carolana.com/NC/Royal_Colony/The_Currency_Act_1764.html
The british pound currency was controlled entirely by Jewish bankers for nearly 80 years BEFORE the 1770s. :
In 1694 William of Orange granted the Bank of England its charter. It's shareholders were full of Jews with Spanish sounding names - Da Costa, A Fonseca, A Mendes, A Nunes, A Henriquez, Rodrigues, A Salvador, De Mattos, De Medina. The Jews had English banking by the balls from 1694 to this very day.
This 3% tax they teach little kids in grade school and tea party nonsense is not the list of grievances listed in great detail by the founding fathers in their papers or the "Federalist Papers" grievances :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Federalist_Papers
Jews started almost all wars you can think of, even the Spanish-american war. All.
The Tea Party was a side show, but a visible one, and the biggest tax was a FOREIGN controlled tax on PAPERS used to spread information. ALL PAPER had to have a STAMP TAX mark on it.
Unregulated paper was a crime.
And NOT HAVING REPRESENTATION (elected leaders) was the main issue, but the declaration of independence list a hundred reasons for revolt but a tax was not a main issue. The only mention of Tax among the countless grievances is taxes set by foreign governments and no local Consent. READ YOURSELF! :
https://www.archives.gov/founding-docs/declaration-transcript
TL/DR : the tea party is a non-story, and in fact its well documented that JEWISH BANKERS outraged the colonists and provoked the revolutionary war.
You make me too mad to bother responding to all the rest of your JIDF shilling. I shared 100% facts with you and you keep claiming all my words are not facts.
Do you own simple homework, Jew.
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[ - ] Bitcher [op] 1 point 2.9 yearsMay 21, 2021 05:08:51 ago (+1/-0)
I'm trying to discuss the topic like an adult by asking proper questions and you're completely freaking out. Then you get distracted and go on about the revolutionary war. Then I get called a JIDF shill. Then you say something about how I "keep claiming all your words are not facts."
Whatever.
Next time, just say "I have a link to a SFGate article about the shorts" and just post it. I swear, this reads like a fedora atheist comment from 10 years ago.
The question is still open. "They knew about it in advance" does not mean "they orchestrated it." I already knew about the former, just not in as much detail. This thread is about the latter.
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[ - ] try 0 points 2.9 yearsMay 21, 2021 14:09:03 ago (+0/-0)
I clearly and factually typed that the MUSLIMS DID IT!
Re-read my first comment.
I never ever EVER claimed that the muslims did not do it.
I ignored all the rest of your typing (no lie), because now I am convinced you are a jew doing pilpul and shifting narrative and making false claims and inserting fake statements into the discussions.
I NEVER ONCE EVER did not say the shit you asserted. I said the muslims did the act.
Why are you being a Jew shill liar?
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[ - ] try 0 points 2.9 yearsMay 21, 2021 03:55:27 ago (+0/-0)*
https://bollyn.com/the-odigo-warnings-the-4000-israelis-saved-on-9-11/
But it is a fact... All US congressmen cancelled air travel prior that monday. All. THe mathematical chance on a Monday of that happening across USA is thousands to one.
Never forget that all the israelis stayed home : President Bush, primed by his Jewish minders, announced soon after the tragedy that 130 Israelis had died in the towers. To his subsequent embarrassment, 129 of these Israelis were found to be alive and well!!!! No dead israelis! : refer also :
https://rense.com/general84/isrr.htm
https://brutalproof.net/2019/03/mossads-9-11/
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[ - ] Bitcher [op] 0 points 2.9 yearsMay 21, 2021 06:14:54 ago (+0/-0)*
The bollyn and tense links don't mention anything about Congress not flying.
The question we're asking here is not "did they know an attack would happen?" That was answered definitively shortly after 9/11. The question being asked is "did Mossad do it?"
The brutalproof link was something I read before making this thread. It was the first search result.
It's just a blog that makes the claim citing the darkmoon link. The darkmoon is a collection of quote snippets from various people where the author says he arranged them in such a way to imagine a dialogue where they're all debating if Mossad did it or not. It's fiction.
On the brutalproof link, the author cited this quote in particular:
"I have had long conversations over the past two weeks with contacts at the Army War College, at the Headquarters Marine Corps, and I have made it absolutely clear in both cases that it is 100 percent certain that 9/11 was a Mossad operation. Period"
Which is basically just saying "I talked to some army guys about who I think was behind 9/11 and I was confident in my beliefs."
If no one has anything substantial to show that Mossad did it, then we can conclude that this is bogus.
There's a lot of conspiracy around 9/11. And those theories have a lot of evidence and good points that anyone can see. But Mossad orchestrating it has nothing other than "they knew about an attack on advance" and a point about how two buildings of the same company were both in Manhattan and in the town next to Mossad HQ.
I don't know where this Mossad did it claim came from, but I'm not convinced.
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[ - ] try 0 points 2.9 yearsMay 21, 2021 14:05:56 ago (+0/-0)
Quit lying and shifting narrative, like a Jew doing pilpul. I clearly wrote in my first comment that the MUSLIMS DID IT.
Sorry for ignoring the rest of your words. I just think you got derailed or are up to something malicious by asserting words I never typed.
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[ - ] Bitcher [op] 0 points 2.9 yearsMay 21, 2021 15:13:19 ago (+0/-0)
This thread is to discuss this new claim I've been hearing that Mossad orchestrated it, which is looking false. That's what this thread is about. It's not about you.
Sorry I popped a blood vessel by confusing you when you realized you walked into the wrong room.
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[ - ] shitface9000 1 point 2.9 yearsMay 21, 2021 01:56:06 ago (+1/-0)
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[ - ] recon_johnny 1 point 2.9 yearsMay 21, 2021 11:17:32 ago (+1/-0)
But.
Back in the day, about 7-8 years ago, the users on voat.co took time to explain a few things to me. They gave me some examples, I lurked on threads, read what they posted--all of which gave me the motivation to do my own research and start talking intelligently about the way of the world.
Now, I know all about the jew. Not just from a groupthink mentality ("all jews bad news") but really why they are the way they are. And why they need to all die for the White man to live.
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