I went through a few hours worth and it checks out with the narrative 9/11 sceptics always had. There was a web of massive finance, insurance, contracting, and defence companies run by some of the world's most powerful elites and managers that all seemed to have connections and interests in it. There was also media spinning of the narrative and unanswered questions.
As good as a resource this comment is for most people new to 9/11 scepticism (even with most videos getting censored), it still doesn't address the main question of the thread. Did Mossad orchestrate it or not?
I've been hearing people repeat this on several alt media platforms within the last few weeks. The people who say Mossad was responsible are all very knowledgeable about the JQ. It's a big claim to make since it competes with the narrative that hundreds of citizen investigators have come up with over the last 20 years in resources like the ones you linked.
Good sources, but no smoking gun on Mossad running the show, which is what I'm asking about specifically. Where did this claim come from?
This thread is to discuss this new claim I've been hearing that Mossad orchestrated it, which is looking false. That's what this thread is about. It's not about you.
Sorry I popped a blood vessel by confusing you when you realized you walked into the wrong room.
Did my comment not get posted? Guess not. Here's another.
The bollyn and tense links don't mention anything about Congress not flying.
The question we're asking here is not "did they know an attack would happen?" That was answered definitively shortly after 9/11. The question being asked is "did Mossad do it?"
The brutalproof link was something I read before making this thread. It was the first search result.
It's just a blog that makes the claim citing the darkmoon link. The darkmoon is a collection of quote snippets from various people where the author says he arranged them in such a way to imagine a dialogue where they're all debating if Mossad did it or not. It's fiction.
On the brutalproof link, the author cited this quote in particular:
"I have had long conversations over the past two weeks with contacts at the Army War College, at the Headquarters Marine Corps, and I have made it absolutely clear in both cases that it is 100 percent certain that 9/11 was a Mossad operation. Period"
Which is basically just saying "I talked to some army guys about who I think was behind 9/11 and I was confident in my beliefs."
If no one has anything substantial to show that Mossad did it, then we can conclude that this is bogus.
There's a lot of conspiracy around 9/11. And those theories have a lot of evidence and good points that anyone can see. But Mossad orchestrating it has nothing other than "they knew about an attack on advance" and a point about how two buildings of the same company were both in Manhattan and in the town next to Mossad HQ.
I don't know where this Mossad did it claim came from, but I'm not convinced.
I'm trying to discuss the topic like an adult by asking proper questions and you're completely freaking out. Then you get distracted and go on about the revolutionary war. Then I get called a JIDF shill. Then you say something about how I "keep claiming all your words are not facts."
Whatever.
Next time, just say "I have a link to a SFGate article about the shorts" and just post it. I swear, this reads like a fedora atheist comment from 10 years ago.
The question is still open. "They knew about it in advance" does not mean "they orchestrated it." I already knew about the former, just not in as much detail. This thread is about the latter.
I thought your comment got deleted. See my response to the deleted comment about this one.
Can I get the source of into for the Congress not flying part?
Is there a graphic for the flight stocks? I'd like to see it, especially for UAL. I dont know how to find shorted stock history when looking at old stock data.
Do you also know where to find demographic info on victims. I don't know where to get that. Link? NYC is something like 13% Jewish. I used the numbers from Jewish population estimates in raw numbers from Wikipedia and compared that to the total number of people (since the census counts Jews as Whites). Some estimates differ by a lot though.
Thanks for writing this out. I don't want to just take an anonymous commentor's word for it, so I'd like to see some backup data.
If what you're saying checks out, then it seems like the narrative fits the description of "some people knew about it, but the information couldn't be verified or released in full, so a network of rabbis informed Jews in NYC and Congress was told about it in precaution." I already knew that Bush knew of a possible attack but couldn't react in time.
This is definitely much different than "they did it." Still, I'm open minded. I'm trying to be correct about this, and we should be too. Otherwise this will get used by some agency as justification for adding funding to censorship departments for "removing misinformation"
PS. Please don't make exaggerated points like 5. The deep state runs machine learning algorithms on various sites to censor posts or take websites down better by finding "hate speech." That point would trigger a positive. Just say the information correctly and concisely. If they did start X, Y, and Z wars then I'm willing to hear people out. It's hard enough to judge credibility on anonymous forums.
I read this before it got removed. I don't know why it got removed. Besides one point where he said Js were responsible for every war (which he got carried away with on his point), I thought the rest of the comment was just a harmless statement of facts. Whatever.
Still not convinced. What I learned about 9/11 years ago was that the information that it was happening was released to the US government, but the government has procedures in place to make sure intelligence was correct before taking any action (these were set up in the cold war to prevent premature retaliation strikes for false alarm nuclear threats). The reason no action was taken was because the intelligence didn't pass through the verification systems in place fast enough.
The point he made about all Congressmen not flying that day fits the narrative of a rumor that couldn't be confirmed fast enough, so US intelligence could have told Congress to not fly just in case.
But he didn't post a way to even get this information on whether Congress did in fact not fly. I'd basically be taking random some guy's word for it through a forum online.
Still not convinced. But I'm open to more evidence. Trying to evaluate this fairly.
Edit: I guess the website glitched. The comment I thought got deleted was posted above, which wasn't there when I refreshed
I'm not this man's target audience. The screaming and flailing around he constantly does is enough for me to not bother. Some of the information he has could be useful in understanding what's happening in the world, but god damn, I can't stand his outbursts like that.
Alex Jones is a right wing John Oliver. The man can't talk in complete sentences because he has to constantly pander to his attention deficit audience with endless theatrics, unnecessary yelling, and constant jokes. Just tell me the fucking information without the BS. I'm an adult.
This is why I moved onto books to find out what's going on.
I've been saying this for years. I see whites patting themselves on the back for being more accomplished and better bahaved than Africans and bragging about their past.
And what do I see in person from other whites? They help members of ANY race except their own. I watched the video from Scotland where an entire city block came out to protect two random non-white migrants. They will NEVER do this for us. They will never protect their own. They still repeat the same Zionist programming they were taught, 70%+ of them here are obese. They don'tknow how to team up or fight. Everyone is afraid of each other. Each time they work together to accomplish something, they share it with "everyone" and no one else appreciates it. They get repeatedly bullied by blacks and continue giving them money and resources to show off how "they're not racist!" Most of the whites I've seen in rich areas and cities are gay or very feminine. White women berate their own men constantly to appear pretty in front of their Jewish masters.
Why does "white supremacy" even exist? Can anyone here look at that Scotish migrant video and say the state of things is good?
The white poeople my age are too busy playing video games and building avatars on social media to do the types of things these Jews do on a weekly basis. Whites are making redneck lawn mower contraptions and feeling prooud of themselves over it while these guys are running the whole fucking world and negotiating 20 million dollar deals like its nothing.
I've been reading Jewish books lately. Not Jewish books for the goyim, but Jewish books made for their own consumption. Whites don't even keep bibles in their house anymore because they tear each other up and call religion stupid. Meanwhile, almost every Jewish family has a collection of ancient scriptures that spell out how to rule society, what laws are just, how to be an effective ruler, how to get into the education systems, how to control the flow of money.
Yeah yeah, but "Truth and beaty!! We were perfect in the 1950s!!! All of those artworks and literary works from hundreds of years ago!!" Come on. Hardly any other white person who doesn't live on a farm or isolated town thinks these are all stupid and white supremacy. This video was right. You can humble the goyim and the goyim would gleefully serve you and attack itself in the process.
The only way out of this is for us to fight fire with fire. I'm learning how to do shit their own way. Nothing we want to do can be accomplished without real money and power.
Bitcher 0 points 4.0 years ago
It's a shame most of these videos were censored.
I went through a few hours worth and it checks out with the narrative 9/11 sceptics always had. There was a web of massive finance, insurance, contracting, and defence companies run by some of the world's most powerful elites and managers that all seemed to have connections and interests in it. There was also media spinning of the narrative and unanswered questions.
As good as a resource this comment is for most people new to 9/11 scepticism (even with most videos getting censored), it still doesn't address the main question of the thread. Did Mossad orchestrate it or not?
I've been hearing people repeat this on several alt media platforms within the last few weeks. The people who say Mossad was responsible are all very knowledgeable about the JQ. It's a big claim to make since it competes with the narrative that hundreds of citizen investigators have come up with over the last 20 years in resources like the ones you linked.
Good sources, but no smoking gun on Mossad running the show, which is what I'm asking about specifically. Where did this claim come from?
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Bitcher 0 points 4.0 years ago
You're fucking crazy.
This thread is to discuss this new claim I've been hearing that Mossad orchestrated it, which is looking false. That's what this thread is about. It's not about you.
Sorry I popped a blood vessel by confusing you when you realized you walked into the wrong room.
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Bitcher 0 points 4.0 years ago*
Did my comment not get posted? Guess not. Here's another.
The bollyn and tense links don't mention anything about Congress not flying.
The question we're asking here is not "did they know an attack would happen?" That was answered definitively shortly after 9/11. The question being asked is "did Mossad do it?"
The brutalproof link was something I read before making this thread. It was the first search result.
It's just a blog that makes the claim citing the darkmoon link. The darkmoon is a collection of quote snippets from various people where the author says he arranged them in such a way to imagine a dialogue where they're all debating if Mossad did it or not. It's fiction.
On the brutalproof link, the author cited this quote in particular:
"I have had long conversations over the past two weeks with contacts at the Army War College, at the Headquarters Marine Corps, and I have made it absolutely clear in both cases that it is 100 percent certain that 9/11 was a Mossad operation. Period"
Which is basically just saying "I talked to some army guys about who I think was behind 9/11 and I was confident in my beliefs."
If no one has anything substantial to show that Mossad did it, then we can conclude that this is bogus.
There's a lot of conspiracy around 9/11. And those theories have a lot of evidence and good points that anyone can see. But Mossad orchestrating it has nothing other than "they knew about an attack on advance" and a point about how two buildings of the same company were both in Manhattan and in the town next to Mossad HQ.
I don't know where this Mossad did it claim came from, but I'm not convinced.
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Bitcher 1 point 4.0 years ago
What the hell was that.
I'm trying to discuss the topic like an adult by asking proper questions and you're completely freaking out. Then you get distracted and go on about the revolutionary war. Then I get called a JIDF shill. Then you say something about how I "keep claiming all your words are not facts."
Whatever.
Next time, just say "I have a link to a SFGate article about the shorts" and just post it. I swear, this reads like a fedora atheist comment from 10 years ago.
The question is still open. "They knew about it in advance" does not mean "they orchestrated it." I already knew about the former, just not in as much detail. This thread is about the latter.
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Bitcher 0 points 4.0 years ago
Or maybe just caching issues on the server end
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Bitcher 0 points 4.0 years ago
I thought your comment got deleted. See my response to the deleted comment about this one.
Can I get the source of into for the Congress not flying part?
Is there a graphic for the flight stocks? I'd like to see it, especially for UAL. I dont know how to find shorted stock history when looking at old stock data.
Do you also know where to find demographic info on victims. I don't know where to get that. Link? NYC is something like 13% Jewish. I used the numbers from Jewish population estimates in raw numbers from Wikipedia and compared that to the total number of people (since the census counts Jews as Whites). Some estimates differ by a lot though.
Thanks for writing this out. I don't want to just take an anonymous commentor's word for it, so I'd like to see some backup data.
If what you're saying checks out, then it seems like the narrative fits the description of "some people knew about it, but the information couldn't be verified or released in full, so a network of rabbis informed Jews in NYC and Congress was told about it in precaution." I already knew that Bush knew of a possible attack but couldn't react in time.
This is definitely much different than "they did it." Still, I'm open minded. I'm trying to be correct about this, and we should be too. Otherwise this will get used by some agency as justification for adding funding to censorship departments for "removing misinformation"
PS. Please don't make exaggerated points like 5. The deep state runs machine learning algorithms on various sites to censor posts or take websites down better by finding "hate speech." That point would trigger a positive. Just say the information correctly and concisely. If they did start X, Y, and Z wars then I'm willing to hear people out. It's hard enough to judge credibility on anonymous forums.
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Bitcher 0 points 4.0 years ago*
I read this before it got removed. I don't know why it got removed. Besides one point where he said Js were responsible for every war (which he got carried away with on his point), I thought the rest of the comment was just a harmless statement of facts. Whatever.
Still not convinced. What I learned about 9/11 years ago was that the information that it was happening was released to the US government, but the government has procedures in place to make sure intelligence was correct before taking any action (these were set up in the cold war to prevent premature retaliation strikes for false alarm nuclear threats). The reason no action was taken was because the intelligence didn't pass through the verification systems in place fast enough.
The point he made about all Congressmen not flying that day fits the narrative of a rumor that couldn't be confirmed fast enough, so US intelligence could have told Congress to not fly just in case.
But he didn't post a way to even get this information on whether Congress did in fact not fly. I'd basically be taking random some guy's word for it through a forum online.
Still not convinced. But I'm open to more evidence. Trying to evaluate this fairly.
Edit: I guess the website glitched. The comment I thought got deleted was posted above, which wasn't there when I refreshed
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Bitcher 0 points 4.0 years ago*
I'm not this man's target audience. The screaming and flailing around he constantly does is enough for me to not bother. Some of the information he has could be useful in understanding what's happening in the world, but god damn, I can't stand his outbursts like that.
Alex Jones is a right wing John Oliver. The man can't talk in complete sentences because he has to constantly pander to his attention deficit audience with endless theatrics, unnecessary yelling, and constant jokes. Just tell me the fucking information without the BS. I'm an adult.
This is why I moved onto books to find out what's going on.
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Bitcher 0 points 4.0 years ago
I've been saying this for years. I see whites patting themselves on the back for being more accomplished and better bahaved than Africans and bragging about their past.
And what do I see in person from other whites? They help members of ANY race except their own. I watched the video from Scotland where an entire city block came out to protect two random non-white migrants. They will NEVER do this for us. They will never protect their own. They still repeat the same Zionist programming they were taught, 70%+ of them here are obese. They don'tknow how to team up or fight. Everyone is afraid of each other. Each time they work together to accomplish something, they share it with "everyone" and no one else appreciates it. They get repeatedly bullied by blacks and continue giving them money and resources to show off how "they're not racist!" Most of the whites I've seen in rich areas and cities are gay or very feminine. White women berate their own men constantly to appear pretty in front of their Jewish masters.
Why does "white supremacy" even exist? Can anyone here look at that Scotish migrant video and say the state of things is good?
The white poeople my age are too busy playing video games and building avatars on social media to do the types of things these Jews do on a weekly basis. Whites are making redneck lawn mower contraptions and feeling prooud of themselves over it while these guys are running the whole fucking world and negotiating 20 million dollar deals like its nothing.
I've been reading Jewish books lately. Not Jewish books for the goyim, but Jewish books made for their own consumption. Whites don't even keep bibles in their house anymore because they tear each other up and call religion stupid. Meanwhile, almost every Jewish family has a collection of ancient scriptures that spell out how to rule society, what laws are just, how to be an effective ruler, how to get into the education systems, how to control the flow of money.
Yeah yeah, but "Truth and beaty!! We were perfect in the 1950s!!! All of those artworks and literary works from hundreds of years ago!!" Come on. Hardly any other white person who doesn't live on a farm or isolated town thinks these are all stupid and white supremacy. This video was right. You can humble the goyim and the goyim would gleefully serve you and attack itself in the process.
The only way out of this is for us to fight fire with fire. I'm learning how to do shit their own way. Nothing we want to do can be accomplished without real money and power.
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