At least one other country, notably Pakistan, was involved - and Iran views them as a rival. In 2022 when my Iranian handler was interviewing me the only other state he asked me about in terms of supporting Iranian policy besides Israel was Pakistan. There was very little detail to his Pakistan query as I just quickly ended it by saying I'd support them in exchange for Iran supporting me.
China, also one of my backers, and an adversary of the US as well as ally of Iran, was decisive here. Their efforts convinced Iran to accept the ceasefire. Simple as. And more or less on terms favorable to them.
The only thing the US got here was to avoid seeing its economy destroyed. For now anyway.
In any event the first clue that Trump's claim of 'victory' is "total and complete" (to use his typically exaggerated language) bullshit is the over the top way he responded to CNN reporting on Iran claiming victory.
[ + ] Prairie
[ - ] Prairie 1 point 2 daysApr 8, 2026 16:19:39 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] Lesion
[ - ] Lesion -2 points 1 dayApr 9, 2026 13:06:27 ago (+0/-2)
Reparations will be paid on top of that.
Not that it matters. The spiral hasn't even begun.
[ + ] FreeinTX
[ - ] FreeinTX 1 point 2 daysApr 8, 2026 14:27:02 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] Joe_McCarthy
[ - ] Joe_McCarthy [op] 1 point 2 daysApr 8, 2026 14:41:42 ago (+1/-0)
China, also one of my backers, and an adversary of the US as well as ally of Iran, was decisive here. Their efforts convinced Iran to accept the ceasefire. Simple as. And more or less on terms favorable to them.
The only thing the US got here was to avoid seeing its economy destroyed. For now anyway.
[ + ] DukeofRaul
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[ + ] Joe_McCarthy
[ - ] Joe_McCarthy [op] 1 point 2 daysApr 8, 2026 12:59:07 ago (+2/-1)
https://www.upgoat.net/viewpost?postid=69d5618c192fd&commentid=69d678490e506
https://www.upgoat.net/viewpost?postid=69d18760615c7#comment_69d6846c9b5fb
In any event the first clue that Trump's claim of 'victory' is "total and complete" (to use his typically exaggerated language) bullshit is the over the top way he responded to CNN reporting on Iran claiming victory.
https://deadline.com/2026/04/cnn-trump-iran-statement-1236784202/
A toll booth regime with Iran still in position to block the Strait of Hormuz is not a US victory, it is the end of the American Empire.
https://www.cnn.com/2026/04/08/world/live-news/iran-war-trump-us-ceasefire
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[ + ] FreeinTX
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[ + ] Joe_McCarthy
[ - ] Joe_McCarthy [op] 1 point 2 daysApr 8, 2026 15:12:50 ago (+1/-0)
"Foxes have dens to live in, and birds have nests, but the Son of Man has no place even to lay his head" (Matthew 8:19-20).
For that matter Che and Fidel weren't exactly drenched in Brut wearing ties during their time hiding out in the Sierra Maestre.
https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/thefucknsucksociety/viewtopic.php?p=26#p26
Your post is very bourgeois.
[ + ] lord_nougat
[ - ] lord_nougat 2 points 2 daysApr 8, 2026 15:24:51 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] FreeinTX
[ - ] FreeinTX 1 point 2 daysApr 8, 2026 15:14:23 ago (+1/-0)
Lol.
[ + ] Joe_McCarthy
[ - ] Joe_McCarthy [op] 0 points 2 daysApr 8, 2026 15:39:38 ago (+0/-0)
More to it than that though!
https://www.upgoat.net/viewpost?postid=65e2b91fd64e4
[ + ] FreeinTX
[ - ] FreeinTX 1 point 2 daysApr 8, 2026 15:53:53 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] Joe_McCarthy
[ - ] Joe_McCarthy [op] 1 point 1 dayApr 9, 2026 11:38:52 ago (+1/-0)
In any event in the end my project is nothing more than the fulfillment of his divine will.
[ + ] FreeinTX
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[ + ] xmasskull
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[ + ] Prairie
[ - ] Prairie 1 point 2 daysApr 8, 2026 16:19:55 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] Joe_McCarthy
[ - ] Joe_McCarthy [op] 1 point 2 daysApr 8, 2026 14:25:57 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] xmasskull
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[ + ] xmasskull
[ - ] xmasskull -1 points 2 daysApr 8, 2026 14:27:59 ago (+0/-1)
Where have I read/heard that before?
[ + ] Joe_McCarthy
[ - ] Joe_McCarthy [op] 1 point 2 daysApr 8, 2026 15:28:31 ago (+1/-0)
I originally picked it up from a Maltese Comtean at The Phora circa 2009.
With slightly different wording it has been variously used by different revolutionary groups, including neo-fascists during the Years of Lead.
[ + ] xmasskull
[ - ] xmasskull 1 point 2 daysApr 8, 2026 21:45:09 ago (+1/-0)