I never understood why "scientists" worked so hard to debunk Atlantis. It's obvious where it was and what happened to it and Plato wasn't the only one who talked about it. The story first came out of Egypt since there and Atlantis is where the society existed.
- It meets Plato's specific description in every way. - It has the geological evidence of a MASSIVE flood, AND there is a deposit of "ramp" of materials just waiting to be tested to confirm the presence of man-made materials.
[ - ] autotic 1 point 2 daysApr 8, 2026 11:50:57 ago (+1/-0)
Proving Atlantis is real would invalidate the entirety of the narrative about Western, heck, World history.
And, honestly, as someone who is uncommitted religiously, it would kneecap the narratives around jews, Christians, muslims as well. For better or worse. For the current ruling Overclass, it would unwind unaccountable propaganda investments.
Good point. Same reason why they will never announce aliens are out there. That would fuck up the entire theology system. They have found too much stuff that was either man-made or alien-made that should not exist in the geologic record. These are same fuckers who claim white people came from Africa used to be niggers when it is very obvious whites came out of the CAUCASIAN mountains ranges.
I don't care if it's real or not, it's interesting to think about. You can't blame people for mistrusting established narratives about things they don't have the ability to independently verify. Having an open mind about accepted history doesn't make someone a fag, believing everything you're told does. Perfect example, WW2 "history" leaves out and completely fabricates narratives that are essential to understanding a relatively recent event. You think the narrative about something that happened 12000 years ago is true and unaltered?
You can't blame people for mistrusting established narratives about things they don't have the ability to independently verify.
Fine but I recommend examining those "establishment narratives" to find out if they make sense to you before dismissing them out of hand (I did) and not automatically humping the leg of every "non-establishment" theorist.
Troy has likely historical basis in a nearby bronze age city that was attacked by a mycenaean/sea peoples military expansion just a few hundred years before Homer lived. If Atlantis has a historical basis its from someplace near to plato's society physically and temporally. Plato was not transmitting accurate historical information from a 10,000 year old oral tradition from the middle of the atlantic! FFS! fucking scale is a thing!
If you understand bronze age western anatolia, you understand those people (Trojans) were not very different from mycenaeans like Homer, linguistically or racially. But fucking Azores in the Younger Dryas? Indo-european language isn't even a thing at that point. Or metallurgy. How does a supposedly sophisticated society leave no archeological trace on the Azores? 10,000 years ago?
As I said in my other comment, any "real" atlantis would a rather mundane and predictable basis like crete/minoan civilization which had significantly weakened by the time the hellenes got there. It would never be anything so far fetched as the Azores ten thousand years ago. How do I know this? The same way I know the Greeks weren't building and flying 747s in the bronze age!
Troy has likely historical basis in a nearby bronze age city that was attacked by a mycenaean/sea peoples military expansion just a few hundred years before Homer lived.
Yeah, so not myth as steadfastly claimed by le 'academics'???
As I said in my other comment, any "real" atlantis would a rather mundane and predictable basis like crete/minoan civilization which had significantly weakened by the time the hellenes got there.
Yeah, and so what exactly?. It was millennia ago, of course it would be technologically/ culturally representative of the time. Similar to describing worldwide Pyramids/ megaliths etc as just 'piles of stones' /js
Main point being is of an actual historical place not just a mythical narration for somewhere back in time.
The semantics of arguing over descriptions of what 'a real Atlantis' was like is a weird kinda secondary narrative reframing.
Strawman. Troy is a myth with a probable historical basis and no modern historians have ever denied that it might have a historical basis. The bible and the Vedas are also myths with probable historical bases. They are not "true stories" or reliable in any way.
However...
Troy, the bible, and the vedas have historically reasonable proposed bases as their inspiration with some level of archeological evidence and historical records supporting them.
The idea that people settled the Azores in the Younger Dryas and didn't lose contact with continental Europe for 12,000 years is not only absurd, but it has zero archeological support. Zero.
Yeah, and so what exactly? It was millennia ago, of course it would be technologically/ culturally representative of the time.
Younger Dryas Azores as the milieu for an advanced (for plato) culture described by plato is certainly not technologically/culturally representative of the time! Nor are any of the gay Atlantis theories Ive seen floated on this site.
The semantics of arguing over descriptions of what 'a real Atlantis' was like is a weird kinda secondary narrative reframing.
No it is not. There's nothing semantical about it. The whole point of this thread is to discuss the reasonableness of such a theory. It's not a distraction.
and no modern historians have ever denied that it might have a historical basis.
Define modern. Back in the 1970's it was considered a total mythical place set for the story with no basis in reality.
Younger Dryas Azores as the milieu for an advanced (for plato) culture described by plato is certainly not technologically/culturally representative of the time!
Meh, that doesnt really mean anything.
Guess things like the Antikythera device were technologically common items then. But i doubt any bush bantu back then knew what it were.
The whole point of this thread is to discuss the reasonableness of such a theory
Is it really?.
Well excuse me for suggesting the reasonableness of a theory was grounded in an actual place.
Literally 'we can only talk about it being like a theory guise, not that its real. Shut it down !!'.
If atlantis ever existed it is some island nearby greece like crete or santorini. Crete is an obvious choice if you are looking for an "advanced" civilization-- it was advanced for its time but no more advanced than mycenaeans. Faggots looking for flying saucers from the Younger Dryas period are homo af. Cut it out. Youre embarassing Whites everywhere.
Anomalous continental beach sand that is somehow 2miles deep,
Somehow. Hmmm. Like sea levels changing? What would plato know about the happenings of the Azores in the younger dryas? Seriously? theres not any evidence of human habitation on that island until the middle ages. No ruins from a major civilization?
Theres tons of information about where white people were living in the younger dryas and every era since then, but nobody on this site seems interested in that research. This is pseudo-science.
What about them? You think the people who gave us the Hercules/Heracles myths were sailing from Greece to the Azores in the Younger Dryas? The people who they replaced in Greece didn't even exist in Greece in the Younger Dryas.
Watch the video postwall, the summation from Plato is that the events took place thousands of years before the Hellenic Empires, also its posted in v/SchizoPost.
Its 20 minutes long. I don't need to watch it to know its retarded. We have a pretty firm timeline of societies/cultures which have existed in Europe since the younger dryas, who they were related to and what their technological levels were.
It's your lack of knowledge of the evolution of societies and their technologies in Europe and West Eurasia that leads you to think this is even a possibility.
It's your lack of knowledge of the evolution of societies and their technologies in Europe and West Eurasia that leads you to think this is even a possibility.
Göbekli Tepe blows this assertion out of the water.
Sumer, located in southern Mesopotamia (modern-day Iraq), is generally considered the oldest known civilization, emerging during the late Ubaid and early Uruk periods, roughly 4500–4000 BC.
Göbekli Tepe (located in modern-day Turkey. 12,000 Years Old: Dating back to approximately 9500–8200 BCE (the Pre-Pottery Neolithic period), Göbekli Tepe is significantly older than other famous ancient sites. Predates Civilizations: It is roughly 6,000 years older than Stonehenge, 7,000 years older than the earliest known writing, and 7,500 years older than the Egyptian pyramids.
The Nebra Sky Disc in Germnay is approximately 3,600 to 3,800 years old, which makes as old as Sumer, located in southern Mesopotamia (modern-day Iraq), considered to be the oldest known recorded civilisation. Archaeologists have a better time uncovering items in the sand bowl because its better preserved than in the Atlantic or wet Europe.
Just watch it for a bit of fun and stop spazzing out.
Göbekli Tepe blows this assertion out of the water.
Oh? How so? You mean Graham Hancock's theories of Gobekli Tepe.
Sumer, located in southern Mesopotamia (modern-day Iraq), is generally considered the oldest known civilization, emerging during the late Ubaid and early Uruk periods, roughly 4500–4000 BC.
No. They were a noteworthy civilization with some remarkable innovations, but "civilization" is generally associated with permanent agrarian settlements in the middle east from a much earlier period. Nobody was thinking that Sumeria was the first to have permanent settlements or the earliest agriculture. Even large settlements in Europe like Cucuteni Tripillia predate Sumeria.
Dating back to approximately 9500–8200 BCE (the Pre-Pottery Neolithic period), Göbekli Tepe is significantly older than other famous ancient sites.
I don't know what you mean by famous sites. There are tons of pre-pottery neolithic sites all over the fertile crescent that were contemporaneous with Gobekli Tepe. The spread of agriculture is mostly associated with migrations to adjacent regions like europe and indus valley are well traced through artifacts and paleogenetics. So tell me how these people-- who couldn't even make ceramics or metal --suddenly traversed thousands of miles to appear in the Azores simultaneously to the earliest instances of agricultural settlements in the middle east, to build an advanced civilization--well before Gobekli Tepe--, but left no trace in the azores or anywhere in between the fertile crescent and the azores?
Predates Civilizations: It is roughly 6,000 years older than Stonehenge,
Because that's about how long it took for Anatolian neolithic agriculturalists to get to Britain. It took around 4000 years. Just for farming to spread to Britain. Which you can practically see from the continent. These people were not travelling 800 miles across the atlantic in the Younger Dryas.
The Nebra Sky Disc in Germnay is approximately 3,600 to 3,800 years old,
I don't know what you think is proven by these rando facts. It would be terrifically anachronistic to find an agricultural settlement on Azores 12,000 years ago. Its not possible. The record of pre-indoeuropean European farmer civilizations from the 4th millenium BC like funnel beaker and globular amphora is well established and not controversial at all.
I believe there was a place across the Atlantic ocean today described as Atlantis. It didn't sink, it was submerged several thousand years ago at the end of the last ice age, when ice and snow pack began melting, raising the elevation of the oceans by hundreds of feet.
Edgar Cayce discussed Atlantic over a period of 20 years, beginning in the 1920s, saying it would be found in the Caribbean. What he described matches Bimini Road, a wall and paved road formation found on the the bottom of the sea.
People, especially archaeologists, dismiss the idea that ancient man were navigators, but there is overwhelming evidence that they traveled the oceans extensively. The Piri Reis map, composed of ancient older maps, gives some evidence of this.
When the Portuguese explored the Azores at the start of the age of exploration, they were shocked to find a distinct European type secluded population. Sandy Brown/Blonde hair with Pale/Olive skin. Would not doubt they are somehow related to the ancient Atlantans, if it truly existed.
It's a beautiful place that is slowly being ruined by the European Union deciding to urbanize it to no end. I have family there, and my wife would love to move there permanently because of how beautiful and calm it is. Niggers are still a rare sight there.
[ + ] RobertJHarsh
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[ + ] KosherHiveKicker
[ - ] KosherHiveKicker 1 point 2 daysApr 8, 2026 10:56:33 ago (+1/-0)
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDrv3I4lDAY
Here are MUCH longer, and more detailed videos where the overwhelming evidence is clearly presents.
Just focus on the videos labeled either: "Atlantis" or "Richat Structure"
- https://www.youtube.com/@BrightInsight/videos
- It meets Plato's specific description in every way.
- It has the geological evidence of a MASSIVE flood, AND there is a deposit of "ramp" of materials just waiting to be tested to confirm the presence of man-made materials.
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If you take the time to watch his "Atlantis - Richat Structure" content then you will see that it matches Plato's description to the letter.
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[ - ] autotic 1 point 2 daysApr 8, 2026 11:50:57 ago (+1/-0)
And, honestly, as someone who is uncommitted religiously, it would kneecap the narratives around jews, Christians, muslims as well. For better or worse. For the current ruling Overclass, it would unwind unaccountable propaganda investments.
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[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 2 daysApr 8, 2026 15:29:11 ago (+1/-1)
it's a fable. Why are fags so invested in proving its real?
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[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 2 daysApr 8, 2026 16:31:42 ago (+0/-0)
Fine but I recommend examining those "establishment narratives" to find out if they make sense to you before dismissing them out of hand (I did) and not automatically humping the leg of every "non-establishment" theorist.
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If you understand bronze age western anatolia, you understand those people (Trojans) were not very different from mycenaeans like Homer, linguistically or racially. But fucking Azores in the Younger Dryas? Indo-european language isn't even a thing at that point. Or metallurgy. How does a supposedly sophisticated society leave no archeological trace on the Azores? 10,000 years ago?
As I said in my other comment, any "real" atlantis would a rather mundane and predictable basis like crete/minoan civilization which had significantly weakened by the time the hellenes got there. It would never be anything so far fetched as the Azores ten thousand years ago. How do I know this? The same way I know the Greeks weren't building and flying 747s in the bronze age!
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[ - ] dassar 2 points 2 daysApr 8, 2026 18:14:26 ago (+2/-0)
Yeah, so not myth as steadfastly claimed by le 'academics'???
Yeah, and so what exactly?. It was millennia ago, of course it would be technologically/ culturally representative of the time.
Similar to describing worldwide Pyramids/ megaliths etc as just 'piles of stones' /js
Main point being is of an actual historical place not just a mythical narration for somewhere back in time.
The semantics of arguing over descriptions of what 'a real Atlantis' was like is a weird kinda secondary narrative reframing.
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena -1 points 2 daysApr 8, 2026 20:02:52 ago (+0/-1)
However...
Troy, the bible, and the vedas have historically reasonable proposed bases as their inspiration with some level of archeological evidence and historical records supporting them.
The idea that people settled the Azores in the Younger Dryas and didn't lose contact with continental Europe for 12,000 years is not only absurd, but it has zero archeological support. Zero.
Younger Dryas Azores as the milieu for an advanced (for plato) culture described by plato is certainly not technologically/culturally representative of the time! Nor are any of the gay Atlantis theories Ive seen floated on this site.
No it is not. There's nothing semantical about it. The whole point of this thread is to discuss the reasonableness of such a theory. It's not a distraction.
[ + ] dassar
[ - ] dassar 0 points 2 daysApr 9, 2026 03:39:03 ago (+0/-0)*
Meh, that doesnt really mean anything.
Guess things like the Antikythera device were technologically common items then. But i doubt any bush bantu back then knew what it were.
Is it really?.
Well excuse me for suggesting the reasonableness of a theory was grounded in an actual place.
Literally 'we can only talk about it being like a theory guise, not that its real. Shut it down !!'.
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena 1 point 2 daysApr 8, 2026 15:46:55 ago (+1/-0)
Somehow. Hmmm. Like sea levels changing? What would plato know about the happenings of the Azores in the younger dryas? Seriously? theres not any evidence of human habitation on that island until the middle ages. No ruins from a major civilization?
Theres tons of information about where white people were living in the younger dryas and every era since then, but nobody on this site seems interested in that research. This is pseudo-science.
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It's your lack of knowledge of the evolution of societies and their technologies in Europe and West Eurasia that leads you to think this is even a possibility.
[ + ] UncleDoug
[ - ] UncleDoug [op] -1 points 2 daysApr 8, 2026 22:27:09 ago (+0/-1)
Göbekli Tepe blows this assertion out of the water.
Sumer, located in southern Mesopotamia (modern-day Iraq), is generally considered the oldest known civilization, emerging during the late Ubaid and early Uruk periods, roughly 4500–4000 BC.
Göbekli Tepe (located in modern-day Turkey.
12,000 Years Old: Dating back to approximately 9500–8200 BCE (the Pre-Pottery Neolithic period), Göbekli Tepe is significantly older than other famous ancient sites.
Predates Civilizations: It is roughly 6,000 years older than Stonehenge, 7,000 years older than the earliest known writing, and 7,500 years older than the Egyptian pyramids.
The Nebra Sky Disc in Germnay is approximately 3,600 to 3,800 years old, which makes as old as Sumer, located in southern Mesopotamia (modern-day Iraq), considered to be the oldest known recorded civilisation. Archaeologists have a better time uncovering items in the sand bowl because its better preserved than in the Atlantic or wet Europe.
Just watch it for a bit of fun and stop spazzing out.
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 2 daysApr 9, 2026 00:05:08 ago (+0/-0)
Oh? How so? You mean Graham Hancock's theories of Gobekli Tepe.
No. They were a noteworthy civilization with some remarkable innovations, but "civilization" is generally associated with permanent agrarian settlements in the middle east from a much earlier period. Nobody was thinking that Sumeria was the first to have permanent settlements or the earliest agriculture. Even large settlements in Europe like Cucuteni Tripillia predate Sumeria.
I don't know what you mean by famous sites. There are tons of pre-pottery neolithic sites all over the fertile crescent that were contemporaneous with Gobekli Tepe. The spread of agriculture is mostly associated with migrations to adjacent regions like europe and indus valley are well traced through artifacts and paleogenetics. So tell me how these people-- who couldn't even make ceramics or metal --suddenly traversed thousands of miles to appear in the Azores simultaneously to the earliest instances of agricultural settlements in the middle east, to build an advanced civilization--well before Gobekli Tepe--, but left no trace in the azores or anywhere in between the fertile crescent and the azores?
Because that's about how long it took for Anatolian neolithic agriculturalists to get to Britain. It took around 4000 years. Just for farming to spread to Britain. Which you can practically see from the continent. These people were not travelling 800 miles across the atlantic in the Younger Dryas.
I don't know what you think is proven by these rando facts. It would be terrifically anachronistic to find an agricultural settlement on Azores 12,000 years ago. Its not possible. The record of pre-indoeuropean European farmer civilizations from the 4th millenium BC like funnel beaker and globular amphora is well established and not controversial at all.
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Edgar Cayce discussed Atlantic over a period of 20 years, beginning in the 1920s, saying it would be found in the Caribbean. What he described matches Bimini Road, a wall and paved road formation found on the the bottom of the sea.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bimini_Road
https://edgarcaycenyc.org/edgar-cayce-on-atlantis
People, especially archaeologists, dismiss the idea that ancient man were navigators, but there is overwhelming evidence that they traveled the oceans extensively. The Piri Reis map, composed of ancient older maps, gives some evidence of this.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piri_Reis_map
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There was an Indiana Jones game back in the 80s(?) where this idea was central to the plot.