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Jesus died for my sins?

submitted by PoundOfFlesh to funny 8 hoursMay 13, 2025 14:50:47 ago (+5/-4)     (files.catbox.moe)

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[ - ] inaminit 2 points 6 hoursMay 13, 2025 16:48:37 ago (+2/-0)

You never tasted the fruit but were guilty regardless.

[ - ] PoundOfFlesh [op] 0 points 6 hoursMay 13, 2025 16:56:52 ago (+0/-0)

guilty

Of what?

[ - ] TheNoticing 0 points 5 hoursMay 13, 2025 17:35:30 ago (+0/-0)

"of being born" I think it is.

[ - ] Jinglebanger 0 points 5 hoursMay 13, 2025 18:08:42 ago (+0/-0)

Original Sin, and further the capacity to sin.

[ - ] inaminit 0 points 4 hoursMay 13, 2025 19:02:31 ago (+0/-0)

Being born.

[ - ] Her0n 2 points 6 hoursMay 13, 2025 16:55:04 ago (+2/-0)

The religious divide in IQ typically shows the lower end believing in book "because book said so!", while the opposite end typically lands somewhere near; "I don't follow dogma, but I know there is something here we can't physically quantify, a metaphysical side to ourselves we deem most important over all else we inhabit. A soul, if you need a simple term to understand."

Most times, those who scream loudest know least.

[ - ] PoundOfFlesh [op] 1 point 6 hoursMay 13, 2025 16:58:09 ago (+1/-0)

"because book said so!"

Ah, the Love240 playbook.

[ - ] Reunto 1 point 6 hoursMay 13, 2025 17:10:38 ago (+1/-0)

A well programmed simple computer is better than a poorly programmed super computer. Your IQ argument is a hot mess.

[ - ] BMN003 1 point 5 hoursMay 13, 2025 18:04:35 ago (+1/-0)

You do realize the flaw in your analogy, right? A computer is an artifice, made by an intelligent being deliberately for a specific purpose. Your analogy depends on a creator to be relevant to humanity, and I suspect you believe in purely random mutation being the source of variation for natural selection.

[ - ] Reunto 0 points 3 hoursMay 13, 2025 19:49:42 ago (+0/-0)

You don't think Her0n's IQ argument is a hot mess?

[ - ] BMN003 0 points 1 hourMay 13, 2025 21:54:43 ago (+0/-0)

I think it has unspoken premises you don't seem to agree with. His thesis is that the least knowledgeable speak the loudest, which I accept with the caveat that those who know so little that they know they know nothing are usually silent. On a scale of 1-100, for example, where x is actual knowledge and y is your certainty in your conclusions, for x=0 to x=10, y = 0. But for x=11 to x=30, y rises logarithmically to 100. It's only when you know 31% or so of what there is to know on a subject that y begins to fall, and doesn't rise again until x is over, say, 50. I don't have a graphing program handy to visualize that for you, but hopefully you can get the idea. You can plug those in as sin/cos/รพ to a graphing calculator(/app) if you want to see it yourself.

In any case, his point is that "book is always right" brainlets would never have any chance of understanding the non-deterministic concept of sentience they're arguing for -- or even that they're arguing for it, in the case of Calvinists. Conversely, the well-educated believer has so many doubts about our understanding of the physical underpinnings of our material existence, that the existence of a "soul" seems more probable.

But if you dont reject physical determinism, and you think that any choice someone makes can be described and predetermined by the way observable atoms and particles are arranged and moved (culminating in neurochemistry, in this case,) then none of that argument is relevant. He's operating on the principles that A: free will exists and B: our models of our physical reality do not adequately provide for a mechanism for free will to exist.
I gather you don't quite recognize one or both of those premises, thus his argument sounds like a hot mess to you. I think both are plausible, thus I understand his argument even though I think there are other conclusions besides "intelligent creator figure."

[ - ] Reunto 0 points 41 minutesMay 13, 2025 22:52:47 ago (+0/-0)

Do I feel like talking to a chatbot today? Oh fine.

His thesis is that the least knowledgeable speak the loudest

I didn't see that as the premise of his argument. He was however establishing a premise that lower IQ individuals rely on ethos arguments.

Much like a simple computer with a well designed program, you can get very good results. The fact that someone uses an ethos argument to come to a conclusion does not mean that the conclusion is necessarily wrong or insufficient. We need to dig. You might scoff at a computer program and ask why the programmer does all kinds of backflips in the code to get to the result, but it could be fantastic code.

And on the flip side, a supercomputer (high IQ) that relies on bad code (bad doctrine) will be worse off.

Her0n's falsely pushed the concept that a high IQ person would reject dogma, inferring that dogma itself ought be regarded as incorrect. The big thing to realize is an individual high IQ person can come to all sorts of conclusions, but the dogma of the Church is the result of a long history of high IQ individuals discerning and scrutinizing. If we wish to entertain the ethos argument that high IQ conclusions trump low IQ conclusions, because dogma and doctrine is derived from a collective of high IQ individuals, the low IQ person following dogma would be in a superior position to the high IQ individual that rejects dogma. Moreover, the highest position would then be someone that has high IQ and accepts dogma.

Her0n's IQ argument is a hot mess.

our models of our physical reality do not adequately provide for a mechanism for free will to exist.

Free will does not make sense from the perspective of metaphysical naturalism. Nor consciousness as an experienced thing. Luckily, metaphysical naturalism is not required for anything. You don't need it for science or philosophy. The most reasonable position is in fact the premise that consciousness is an irreducible property of reality and draw conclusions from there. The conclusions then point towards God.

[ - ] Jinglebanger 0 points 5 hoursMay 13, 2025 18:07:51 ago (+0/-0)

What's the side that says it's very, very unlikely to be real, but Christianity is by far the best path for humanity when compared to all other spiritual options?

[ - ] Reunto 0 points 3 hoursMay 13, 2025 19:55:22 ago (+0/-0)

How are you weighing liklihood?

[ - ] Her0n 0 points 2 hoursMay 13, 2025 21:32:48 ago (+0/-0)

It's only the best method that you've heard of so far.

I like many aspects of multiple different religions, what does that mean if we use my opinion as the gatekeeper?

[ - ] jfroybees 0 points 5 hoursMay 13, 2025 18:30:33 ago (+0/-0)

Now do atheists. Most times, those who scream (an mock) the loudest know the least.

[ - ] Reunto 0 points 3 hoursMay 13, 2025 19:58:07 ago (+0/-0)

Loudmouths with poor argumentation are often least convincing, but associating the validity of a worldview with the clout of the proponents is a type of ethos argument.

[ - ] Her0n 0 points 1 hourMay 13, 2025 21:35:08 ago (+0/-0)

I completely agree. The stance taken rarely has any sway over the validity of the opinion.

Bad takes require loud mouths to spread.

[ - ] i_scream_trucks 0 points 4 hoursMay 13, 2025 18:56:55 ago (+0/-0)

Which is why master foo and his alts have higher post counts than anyone else.

[ - ] Her0n 0 points 1 hourMay 13, 2025 21:36:50 ago (+0/-0)

Fools are transparent, get angry when the light shines through them.

When the light shines through me I hope I can get a chance to see it clearly this time.

[ - ] Reunto 2 points 6 hoursMay 13, 2025 17:07:46 ago (+2/-0)

Ah yes, a Talmudist that pretends not to understand the concept of sin-debt.

[ - ] PoundOfFlesh [op] -1 points 6 hoursMay 13, 2025 17:11:30 ago (+0/-1)

Talmudist

So many seething Christcucks in here. "REEEEEEE anyone who mocks my cult must be a jew!"

It's like when you tell a childhood friend their favorite band sucks. "Nuh uh, you're just stupid!"

[ - ] jfroybees 1 point 5 hoursMay 13, 2025 17:52:08 ago (+1/-0)

What do you believe in? What is your god? What is it like to be faithless, if you are?

[ - ] PoundOfFlesh [op] 0 points 5 hoursMay 13, 2025 18:01:34 ago (+0/-0)

What do you believe in?

Being useful and leaving a positive mark on those I know.

What is your god?

I don't have one.

What is it like to be faithless, if you are?

It's fine. I'm doing well.

[ - ] jfroybees 1 point 5 hoursMay 13, 2025 18:26:50 ago (+1/-0)

So why do you feel the need to mock those who have faith and God and are doing fine? It seems "the lady doth protest too much." It's like having to be around the angriest version of Sam Kennison.

[ - ] PoundOfFlesh [op] 0 points 4 hoursMay 13, 2025 18:38:03 ago (+0/-0)

Because Christianity is a long con created by jews.

Because regardless of some dissidents, most Christians revere Israel and would die for jews.

Because its followers respond to criticisms of the religion as personal attacks, just as a brainwashed cult member would.

One need not be Christian to live a good life and do good for those around him.

Every religion thinks it's the only path to salvation and a blissful afterlife. It's all just mythology. Jew mythology is more boring than the others. I have no idea why people still adhere to it, other than the fear of eternal damnation.

[ - ] jfroybees 1 point 4 hoursMay 13, 2025 18:43:20 ago (+1/-0)

So all of your mocking is proselytizing for souls just die. Just stop. Instead you should crow how much better off you are and that you credit yourself instead of causing dissention here.

[ - ] PoundOfFlesh [op] 0 points 4 hoursMay 13, 2025 19:16:31 ago (+0/-0)

My soul doesn't depend on any religion, least of all a jew-created one.

[ - ] big_fat_dangus 0 points 4 hoursMay 13, 2025 19:09:27 ago (+0/-0)

This has not been your behavior at all, you are so far a seething butthurt beta bitch constantly airing your terminally online man panties out.

Positive mark on those you know, more like postively a skid mark.

[ - ] Reunto 0 points 3 hoursMay 13, 2025 20:02:04 ago (+0/-0)

Being useful and leaving a positive mark on those I know.

You say this, but do you actually do this?

[ - ] PoundOfFlesh [op] 0 points 2 hoursMay 13, 2025 21:11:38 ago (+0/-0)

Yes, and I don't need to worship a jew to do it. :)

[ - ] Reunto 0 points 1 hourMay 13, 2025 22:19:45 ago (+0/-0)

You don't sound convincing on either point.

[ - ] PoundOfFlesh [op] 0 points 1 hourMay 13, 2025 22:29:25 ago (+0/-0)

^ Insecure Christcuck has to convince himself that person mocking his religion must be a terrible person, precisely because he hasn't accepted Heebus as his lord and savior.

If I were you I'd worry less about me and worry more about deprogramming your jew fairy tale brainwashing.

[ - ] Reunto 0 points 22 minutesMay 13, 2025 23:11:19 ago (+0/-0)

In response to the question "What do you believe in?" You responded:

"Being useful and leaving a positive mark on those I know."

You aren't convincing. You talk but I see zero evidence that you actually do this. When is the last time you've said something useful? When is the last time you've left a positive mark on someone you know?

I'm not convinced you are an honest person. I'm not convinced anyone should care about a single thing you say.

The irony is that you chose a username that is a reference to an aspect of Christian culture. "You can have your pound of flesh, but only if you can get it without shedding a single drop of Christian blood"

When are you going to come out from the shadows of your disguise and tell everyone who you really are?

[ - ] PoundOfFlesh [op] 0 points 2 minutesMay 13, 2025 23:31:39 ago (+0/-0)

^ Insecure Christcuck has to convince himself that person mocking his religion must be a terrible person, precisely because he hasn't accepted Heebus as his lord and savior.

You perfectly demonstrated what I previously said you were doing. LOL!

You worship a jew, believe in jew fairy tales, and are a brainwashed cultist who can't think for himself.

All that judgment, not very Jesus-like of you. tsk tsk

[ - ] i_scream_trucks 1 point 4 hoursMay 13, 2025 18:58:07 ago (+1/-0)

Youre called a jew because you act like one.

[ - ] PoundOfFlesh [op] 0 points 4 hoursMay 13, 2025 19:19:44 ago (+0/-0)

Anyone who criticizes me for following a jew-created religion and worshiping a jew must be a jew!

^ The fallback cope of a brainwashed cultist.

After all, it is easier to fool someone than to convince him that he's been fooled.

[ - ] Reunto 0 points 3 hoursMay 13, 2025 20:00:15 ago (+0/-0)

You don't think the comedian is a Talmudist?

[ - ] PostWallHelena 1 point 8 hoursMay 13, 2025 15:19:17 ago (+1/-0)

Lol

[ - ] PoundOfFlesh [op] -2 points 7 hoursMay 13, 2025 16:01:53 ago (+0/-2)

Like moths to the flame come the triggered Christcucks insisting that non-believers simply "don't know shit about Christianity".

It's almost as if they're insecure and lashing out because a small part of them knows they believe jew fairy tales but they can't be honest with themselves.

[ - ] Tallest_Skil 1 point 8 hoursMay 13, 2025 15:28:06 ago (+1/-0)

chinless soyboy confused about the nature of objective reality

Yeah, and?

[ - ] PoundOfFlesh [op] 3 points 7 hoursMay 13, 2025 15:41:06 ago (+4/-1)

"objective reality"

jew died for our sins

LOL.

[ - ] Tallest_Skil 0 points 5 hoursMay 13, 2025 18:30:39 ago (+0/-0)

Ah, just a paid shill account. Never mind; commit suicide.

[ - ] PoundOfFlesh [op] 0 points 4 hoursMay 13, 2025 18:38:37 ago (+0/-0)

You first, Tallest_Shill.

[ - ] FreeinTX 1 point 7 hoursMay 13, 2025 15:49:23 ago (+1/-0)

See? When you don't have a fucking clue about Christianity, you'll say stupid assed shit like this.

[ - ] Ducktalesooo000ooo 1 point 7 hoursMay 13, 2025 15:55:35 ago (+2/-1)

You externalized the cost of sin to someone else and you wonder why you act like a shitbag.

Was jesus a kapparot chicken?

[ - ] FreeinTX 1 point 7 hoursMay 13, 2025 15:56:52 ago (+1/-0)

Like I said, when you don't know shit about Christianity, you'll say retarded shit. See above.

[ - ] Ducktalesooo000ooo 2 points 7 hoursMay 13, 2025 16:03:35 ago (+2/-0)

it sure sounds like goy kapparot.

[ - ] Her0n 1 point 6 hoursMay 13, 2025 16:47:38 ago (+1/-0)

The OG Kapparot, fuck

[ - ] Ducktalesooo000ooo 0 points 6 hoursMay 13, 2025 17:20:21 ago (+0/-0)

The love canal of souls

[ - ] Master_Foo 0 points 6 hoursMay 13, 2025 17:14:39 ago (+0/-0)

I've read the Bible.
I know what is in it.
Most Christ-Cucks never even got past Leviticus.

[ - ] i_scream_trucks 1 point 4 hoursMay 13, 2025 18:59:09 ago (+1/-0)

Cant read.

Has 'read the bible'

Yeah i dont think so pal.

[ - ] FreeinTX 0 points 6 hoursMay 13, 2025 17:16:18 ago (+0/-0)

No you hadn't, nigger. Stop lying.

Leviticus is the Old Testament, ya dumb jew.

[ - ] Master_Foo 0 points 6 hoursMay 13, 2025 17:28:42 ago (+0/-0)*

The OT is the foundation of the Messianic Prophecy.
If you are ignorant of the OT, you are ignorant of the Jew-Christ...
Which is exactly what the Jews want you to be.

You are such a good goy.

[ - ] FreeinTX 0 points 5 hoursMay 13, 2025 17:37:39 ago (+0/-0)

Sure, rabbi.

[ - ] Master_Foo 0 points 5 hoursMay 13, 2025 17:48:15 ago (+0/-0)

How would you know what's in the OT?
You've never read it.

[ - ] PoundOfFlesh [op] -1 points 7 hoursMay 13, 2025 16:00:11 ago (+0/-1)

[ - ] FreeinTX 2 points 7 hoursMay 13, 2025 16:09:54 ago (+2/-0)

Trump has been the least pro-Isrsel candidate since JFK and appears to be pissing off Israel more than ever. Ben Shapiro is close to having a stroke over it.

In the anti-war versus Pro-Israel comparison, he sacked Walts and kept Hegseth and appears to be pulling away from war with Iran and just freed another hostage AGAINST the wishes of Nutandyahoo.

And no, I'm not going to explain the fundamental principals of Christianity to a fuckin' retard like you. Why would I?

[ - ] Tallest_Skil 0 points 5 hoursMay 13, 2025 18:31:01 ago (+0/-0)

Trump has been the least pro-Isrsel candidate

Seek psychiatric help immediately.

[ - ] PoundOfFlesh [op] -1 points 7 hoursMay 13, 2025 16:21:47 ago (+0/-1)

REEEEEE I'm not going to explain the fundamental principals of Christianity.

LOL, the depth and substance of jew fairy tales that dumbass retards like you still believe.

Why would I?

You couldn't even if you wanted to. You're just a brainwashed cult member conditioned to react angrily when someone mocks the cult.

[ - ] FreeinTX 1 point 6 hoursMay 13, 2025 16:54:46 ago (+1/-0)

You couldn't even if you wanted to.

No shit. Cause you're fucking retarded. Like teaching a 2 year old calculus.

[ - ] PoundOfFlesh [op] 0 points 6 hoursMay 13, 2025 16:59:42 ago (+0/-0)

2 year old

Says the low IQ cult member having a hissy fit because someone made fun of the cult.

[ - ] FreeinTX 1 point 6 hoursMay 13, 2025 17:01:25 ago (+1/-0)

No one is having a hissy fit over anything you say or have ever said. Again, you're a fucking retard.

You're so fucking dumb that you probably think I called you a 2 year old.

[ - ] PoundOfFlesh [op] 0 points 6 hoursMay 13, 2025 17:07:26 ago (+0/-0)

^ Boomer Trumptard Christcuck is mega triggered.

You're a literal dumbass who is brainwashed by two cults and trying to flex about "hurr durr you're retarded".

All cult members react like this, lashing out and screeching, "Nuh uh! You're dumb! You just don't understand _____!"

Still waiting for you to explain the intricacies of "muh jew savior died for my sins".

[ - ] FreeinTX 1 point 6 hoursMay 13, 2025 17:15:30 ago (+1/-0)*

I'm

1. Not a boomer
2. Didn't vote for Trump
3. Not in a cult

And 4. you're pointing at yourself and acting like a jew by calling Christianity a cult.

Now, if you want to understand Christianity try starting here.

https://kjvonline.org/new-testament/

Of course, you won't. Filthy fuckin' jews and degenerate pagans love their baby dick suckin' waze.

[ - ] PoundOfFlesh [op] 0 points 6 hoursMay 13, 2025 17:23:33 ago (+0/-0)*

I'm 1. Not a boomer

LOL.

I'm 2. [sic] Didn't vote for Trump

LOL. Twists his pea brain into a knot simping for Rabbi Trump, claims he didn't vote for him.

I'm 3. In a cult

Well at least you admit it.

Christianity is a cult. You've devoted your belief system to a single person or idea, mostly out of fear of eternal punishment. That's a cult.

acting like a jew

The retards who worship a jew and believe jew fairy tales claim someone else is a jew. Priceless.

Go read the jew fairy tales.

No. Just tell me how Heebus died for my sins. Or just keep screeching and throwing a hissy fit like the butthurt Christcuck you are.

[ - ] Master_Foo 0 points 6 hoursMay 13, 2025 17:13:01 ago (+0/-0)

Once you realize that Jesus was Jewish, the whole scam becomes apparent.

Whites don't have sin.
We don't need to be saved.
We can save ourselves.

Heil Odin! o/

[ - ] Tallest_Skil 0 points 5 hoursMay 13, 2025 18:31:40 ago (+0/-0)

Enjoy white genocide, jew.