Rough terrain cranes are for people who do not fuck around. Is it a lehberr? We had a very old one at the shipyard. That thing clocked about 20 hours on the meter per week for 50 years.
I'm running Terex, Grove and Tadano...and you're correct about the "do not fuck around"...I do pick&carry up to 60,000lbs, zero rotation clearance picks with no outriggers, strictly rubber and with as much as 60ft of boom in the air, mind you never below 60°>...but I'll tell you this, notwithstanding the quality of LIEBEHR I'll go with Tadano any day of the week, they are one tough crane and very forgiving if by some chance you end up in the tipping zone, provided the boom isn't luffing down at a fast speed if you get into the tipping zone the carrier will squat before it rolls allowing to recover and reverse the luffing direction.
Are you picking pipe segments for a pipeline, perhaps? That's a big jobsite to have that much gear. Whatcha working on? A haarp facility? A graphene plant? A google server farm?
I'm moved around to various locations where the cranes are situated, the reason I'm operating various cranes is because there's just no more operators left...all these projects are high rise complexes, last year I was on one of those "15 minute city" projects, 3,000 unit condo, strip mall, entertainment and sports center, big swimming pool and grocery store, the main project I'm involved in right now is a police station in Mississauga/Oakville region and this thing is a fucking bomb shelter, military spec all the way, 30ft subsurface, special concrete mixture and heavy rebar, when the rebar columns and walls are ready for the forms they're so dense that you can't even see through them, and it's big rebar, I'll be there till completion in November and then I go on a project in Oshawa.
TEREX RT 670 (70TON) configured with 111ft main boom and 33ft 0-30° offset lattice jib and 14,000lbs counterweight...flying forms with a weight of 8,700lbs each and set at 110ft radius and fuck if I don't have a nasty north wind that interferes with my slewing range at the 10-12 o'clock position...all duty-cycle work including 14-16-18M rebar bundled in weights of 9,000lbs...when luffing to max radius of 90ft I'm redlining with no room for error, have to make some calculations for lifts beyond the manufacturer's load chart but all figures are within the structural allowances of 125%...the wind adds to the load weight at times but can be compensated to within safe parameters by luffing into a shorter radius...but fucking good thing for air-conditioning, not to mention a roomy hydraulic activated tilting operations cab...and right now I'm going to climb down and "drain the vein", I've downed a few pints of water, a grapefruit drink and a coffee and my back teeth are beginning to float. Oh, and I'm working on the construction of a new police facility in Halton Hills Toronto...this fucking thing is all concrete and rebar and it's 30ft subsurface, a fucking bomb shelter.
@TheSimulacra...HA...with the way this world is today that would get me on the evening news....just a point of interest, I was able to climb down and hide my body between the front wheel and the fender, the wheel itself is over 6ft in diameter and 28" wide, and I pissed so much that one of the 3" bilge pumps stalled out but what a relief it was, almost spiritual of a sort...but I do appreciate your suggestion and will give it serious consideration if working on a site where the workers are predominantly female
I usually arch my shoulders back and move my pelvis forward when its been a few days and I know its gonna be a larger one. I dont give my wife a heads up or anything. Its how we have so many kids.
@PotatoWhisperer2...that is not a dumb retarded question and I commend your practical sense of wonder and desire to expand your horizons by way of the information provided in my answer...normally Rough Terrain Cranes are designed with a fixed counter weight distance relative to the wide range of "moment forces" corresponding to the load chart. ALL TERRAIN CRANES, STANDARD MOBILE CRANES, CONVENTIONAL CRAWLER OR MOBILE CONVENTIONAL CRANES do have extendable counter weights, hanging counter weights or "ringer style" counter weights, the reason for the extendable CWT is to obviously counter the moment forces, D×W from C/R (center of rotation) that would cause the tipping axis to be compromised, but, the Xtra CWT does not add to structural stability, those forces directly correspond to the Modulus of Elasticity and Tensile strength of the boom and super structure's material and design...I don't know any other way of explaining it other than with the terminology that I've been trained, certified and work with....but no doubt you're capable of understanding the jargon...in short the extendable CWT is for lifts at a far radius and not for close, increased angle work (generally 70-80°)
That's cool. Seemed like an obvious idea to me but I've not worked with anything large enough to warrant a mobile counterweight.
I don't know any other way of explaining it other than with the terminology that I've been trained, certified and work with....but no doubt you're capable of understanding the jargon
Yeah, I get it. I'm trained and experienced in engineering type stuff. Same jargon.
@germ22...again, I'm doing my posts by Android ph and tablet and given that I am not technically astute, and proficient only in the basic operational process of these devices, ie on, off, sleep, save, copy, paste and delete, I am very limited as to what I can post and believe me I've got lots I'd like to share, I have posed an option in the form of a proxy sharing where I would forward stuff to another VOAT OP via Text or email of which would be shared here, I tried working with catbox and I think it's IMGUR that I also tried and couldn't get either to work for me, the frustration causes me to break out in hives, to overheat and invent new cuss words.
Crane- big machine, picks up heavy shit from here and puts it there. He is likely picking up some heavy shit and moving it. Just a guess. I dont play rugby.
MANTIS HYDRAULIC CRAWLER CRANE...are you on a hydro project setting transmission towers or a tunnel job involving caison drilling? The MANTIS has it's applications and sloppy or uneven terrain are where they perform well but generally the MANTIS is not the "heavy or super lift" crane like the large LIEBEHR, DEMAG, GROVE/KRUPP All TERRAIN CRANES ARE, and definitely are not in the category of the large MANITOWOC, LIEBEHR OR DEMAG CONVENTIONAL CRAWLER CRANES but they are the right crane for a few select applications.
Sand is very incompatible with anything but a crawler crane and the telescopic ability of the hyd boom is unbeatable, I'm guessing you're doing units with multiple or two modules at a weight of between 20,000 and 28,000lbs with a spreader system for the rigging?
OK...so do you have a rotary vibration head that hangs off the hook and it's about 40,000lbs or up & down pneumatic hammer?...you got me curious now because your scope of work (beach sand) totally differs from what we engage in here...I've used rotating vibration systems for helical piles, vibration hammer for chamfered/grooved sheet piling and pneumatic hammer for up and down "wide flange" pile and our work is either in sedimentary ground, limestone shale, clay, granular marl or hardrock granite. Interesting
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xcept that I didn't know I was going to be fielded a question that required that response.
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Such wisdom you have.
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Does the counterweight move back to compensate for larger loads?
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ALL TERRAIN CRANES, STANDARD MOBILE CRANES, CONVENTIONAL CRAWLER OR MOBILE CONVENTIONAL CRANES do have extendable counter weights, hanging counter weights or "ringer style" counter weights, the reason for the extendable CWT is to obviously counter the moment forces, D×W from C/R (center of rotation) that would cause the tipping axis to be compromised, but, the Xtra CWT does not add to structural stability, those forces directly correspond to the Modulus of Elasticity and Tensile strength of the boom and super structure's material and design...I don't know any other way of explaining it other than with the terminology that I've been trained, certified and work with....but no doubt you're capable of understanding the jargon...in short the extendable CWT is for lifts at a far radius and not for close, increased angle work (generally 70-80°)
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Yeah, I get it. I'm trained and experienced in engineering type stuff. Same jargon.
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He is likely picking up some heavy shit and moving it. Just a guess. I dont play rugby.
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Interesting
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O/